Quick Look: Paper Mario: Sticker Star

Despite having not played a Paper Mario game, I'm actually super excited for this. More reason for my 3DS to exist.

TTYD is my favorite game of all time. Hopefully this isn't too disappointing.

Edit: Damnit!

Mario is back

I really hope this game is good. Maybe not as good as TTYD, but better than SPM. Please.

This video's description is making me want to avoid watching it forever

MarioooOoOooOo!

They somehow made Paper Mario even less into an RPG then it used to be. No experience gain, actively trying to avoid battles, no party members. This sounds really lame.

@Oscar__Explosion said:

They somehow made Paper Mario even less into an RPG then it used to be. That sounds really lame.

Yeah, really disappointed in how this is looking.

Can't watch this now, do they like it? Seems like a "good but not great" kinda game to me? Still gonna buy it anyway

YAY! Weekend videos are always welcome :D

There seems to be a lot of aPEEL in this game.

"WINDsical"

Hoo boy that was a heavy load for today back to bed...

Toad has become Towelie.

Lazy Sunday quicklook!

Toad Vinny is pretty amazing.

I don't see why they're still even putting out the paper version, everything's digital these days anyway.

No leveling or weapons saddens me to the point where I probably won't pick this up. It looks fine, but not what I'm looking for in a Paper Mario game. Same thing they did with the Wii game.

I like these Sunday quick looks. =D

Mary-O

POW block, anyone?

@Abendlaender said:

Can't watch this now, do they like it? Seems like a "good but not great" kinda game to me? Still gonna buy it anyway

Brad seems to think it is charming, but easy and boring. Also he doesn't like that it's an RPG where XP doesn't exist, BECAUSE THAT IS THE OPINION EVERY RATIONAL HUMAN BEING SHOULD HOLD.

He did specifically say he would recommend Bowser's Inside Story over this game.

Also, he spends like 20 minutes not using a fan on a windmill, because apparently neither he nor Vinny saw a single trailer for this game.

@Blubba said:

TTYD is my favorite game of all time. Hopefully this isn't too disappointing.

Edit: Damnit!

If TTYD is your favorite game I can't imagine how you would enjoy this. The only thing they appear to share are visual style.

@BisonHero said:

@Oscar__Explosion said:

They somehow made Paper Mario even less into an RPG then it used to be. That sounds really lame.

Yeah, really disappointed in how this is looking.

I don't have 50+ hours to dedicate to an RPG. This looks streamlined and fun.

Some prefer big Mario, but paper cuts hurt too.

This is real disappointing. Really wish they would just stick to TTYD formula.

The Thousand Year Door is still awesome. From the looks of this, I'd highly recommend it over this game. And Mario & Luigi 1 & 3 have FAR better battle systems, in my mind. Reading the enemy's specific tells was really awesome.

There looks to be far less RPG bullshit in this game. Color me interested.

@Jeric said:

Despite having not played a Paper Mario game, I'm actually super excited for this. More reason for my 3DS to exist.

If you can ever play the Gamecube one, I highly recommend it. Just a fucking delightful RPG. Really great.

Like most commenters here, I was also hoping it would be more like TTYD. I was planning on getting a 3DS just for this game, I guess I just saved myself some money. I would have preferred a great Mario RPG instead.

I've never managed to get into any of the Paper Mario games.

In every other RPG-style game, you get huge dungeons, character development, intriguing plotlines, dramatic tension, and a lot of character customisation.

In every other adventure-style game, you get clever puzzles, a great sense of exploration, and lots of branching dialogue (with the exception of myst-style games, which replaces dialogue with finding notes and books).

In Paper Mario? It doesn't have any of the merit that RPG/Adventure games have at all. No real dungeons (there's some several-screen areas with enemies, but they're not exactly fun to explore), no interesting characters, no dramatic intrigue, no real notable puzzles outside of 'use obvious object A on obvious thing B'... the whole game is just 'follow the path, jump/fireflower/hammer the enemies, hear a couple of lines from a fairly boring character, get an item, use the item, repeat'.

Nothing in these games feels engaging, and seems more like an exercise of going through the motions.

And I saw all of the puzzle solutions.

I'm extremely skeptical about this, I freaking love the first two Paper Mario games, and when I heard they were making another in that style, my excitement was through the roof, but looking at this... there's good change and bad change... and I don't like the changes made to this. 

@Brad After you fought the Bob-omb it became an attack sticker. just an FYI

POW block, anyone?

Toad-Vinny is the best Vinny.

I just realized that Toad Vinny and "Jill" from the hit Adam Sandler film "Jack and Jill" is the same person!

This game looks fine, but come on Nintendo, just get together with Square Enix and make Super Mario RPG 2, will ya?

I love Vinny's Mario voice. Should be canon.

@BisonHero said:

@Oscar__Explosion said:

They somehow made Paper Mario even less into an RPG then it used to be. That sounds really lame.

Yeah, really disappointed in how this is looking.

I don't have 50+ hours to dedicate to an RPG. This looks streamlined and fun.

We have to wait a whole extra month for this in the UK. I was all excited to buy this after seeing the quicklook :/

@scarycrayons said:

I've never managed to get into any of the Paper Mario games.

In every other RPG-style game, you get huge dungeons, character development, intriguing plotlines, dramatic tension, and a lot of character customisation.

In every other adventure-style game, you get clever puzzles, a great sense of exploration, and lots of branching dialogue (with the exception of myst-style games, which replaces dialogue with finding notes and books).

In Paper Mario? It doesn't have any of the merit that RPG/Adventure games have at all. No real dungeons (there's some several-screen areas with enemies, but they're not exactly fun to explore), no interesting characters, no dramatic intrigue, no real notable puzzles outside of 'use obvious object A on obvious thing B'... the whole game is just 'follow the path, jump/fireflower/hammer the enemies, hear a couple of lines from a fairly boring character, get an item, use the item, repeat'.

Nothing in these games feels engaging, and seems more like an exercise of going through the motions.

To each their own, but I would disagree with most of your points.

The games had clear dungeons that were generally distinct from "town" or "random field between town and dungeon"; they were of sufficient size for me. I liked the characters, but sure, it treats them more like Chrono Trigger in that they have basically no significant character arc once they join your party, so you're free to not like that. The games have a plot (and mini-story arcs specific to each region sometimes), some amount of character/party customization, but no, they don't aspire to Final Fantasy levels of intricacy. While we're at it, people seem to like the Dragon Quest and Pokemon games a bunch, but they also lack many of the RPG features you listed. Hell, same goes for Super Mario RPG, also beloved.

Sure, the puzzles are simple, but to be an apologist for a moment, the Super Nintendo was pretty much the last platform where Nintendo actually had the balls to put anything even resembling a challenge into Mario and Zelda games, so what did you really expect? They're designed so that children 10 and under can solve the puzzles, instead of getting completely stuck and never finishing the game. I found the worlds fun to explore and to see how they literally unfold as you traverse them, so we'll have to disagree on that one. And there are about a zillion good adventure games that don't have branching dialogue, and I'm perfectly capable of enjoying games that don't have it.

The games in the series try to be a good old fashioned pre-FF6 RPG where you know what your quest is pretty much from the start, and there isn't going to be some mindfuck at the end of disc 1 that makes you completely reevaluate what you're really fighting for. The games are a lighthearted romp, and while I'm with you that I often enjoy intricacy and freedom in a lot of the games I play, I'm not against the occasional lighthearted romp. They're not your cup of tea, but they really have been well made games up to this point.

@RoyCampbell said:

@cannonballBAM said:

@BisonHero said:

@Oscar__Explosion said:

They somehow made Paper Mario even less into an RPG then it used to be. That sounds really lame.

Yeah, really disappointed in how this is looking.

I don't have 50+ hours to dedicate to an RPG. This looks streamlined and fun.

That argument's just as dumb and exaggerated as the thousands of dollars required to play PC games.

Because I actually don't have time to play a 50+ hour RPG so a streamlined version sounds interesting?

Looks very disappointing especially compared to previous Paper Mario entires but I got it at a discount so I'm not too bummed out.

The people demand Brad's Sticker Door!!!!

The one puzzle solution that was shown off is the same one that's been in trailers released by Nintendo so there shouldn't be anything to worry about.

It did make it painful to watch though.

@RoyCampbell said:

@cannonballBAM said:

@BisonHero said:

@Oscar__Explosion said:

They somehow made Paper Mario even less into an RPG then it used to be. That sounds really lame.

Yeah, really disappointed in how this is looking.

I don't have 50+ hours to dedicate to an RPG. This looks streamlined and fun.

That argument's just as dumb and exaggerated as the thousands of dollars required to play PC games.

Because I actually don't have time to play a 50+ hour RPG so a streamlined version sounds interesting?

Finally a Mario game for someone who doesn't like RPGs! Wait...

It's all about the peeling.

nice 'The Usual Suspects' reference there Vinny :D

Also I have to watch GB videos on Youtube of late as they just don't stream for me on the actual site. Which is weird. That and Trophy data not appearing. Bugs and Glitches and Bryan Singer Films references!

@ExplodeMode said:

Finally a Mario game for someone who doesn't like RPGs! Wait...

Between Sticker Star and the painfully easy Super Paper Mario, I'm beginning to think they've pretty much put a bullet in the idea of Paper Mario being a series for the RPG enthusiast. Which hopefully means they'll double down on giving resources to the team that makes the Mario & Luigi games, while the Paper Mario series continues to sadly flounder about from genre to genre, trying to find an identity.