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Quick Look: Sang-Froid: Tales of Werewolves

Vinny and Patrick sleep all night and place defenses and bless bullets and get mauled by werewolves all day.

Sit back and enjoy as the Giant Bomb team takes an unedited look at the latest video games.

Jun. 7 2013

Cast: Vinny, Patrick

Posted by: Drew

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@dr_mantas said:

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It's funny because it's Patrick getting unreasonable backlash. Of course a joke is a joke. But he's written opuses about sillier things than this. Now he's the one being critiqued. Gold.

Yeah, his essay-length, well-supported articles about inherent (often ignored/denied) gender bias within videogames and that's EXACTLY as silly as an off-handed joke in a quick look.

Well, nothing is ever EXACTLY the same. I just wanted to point out the dissonance between him taking people to task for some apparent "sexism" and him making a joke that is at least in part derived from gender differences (boys are more likely to be molested by priests).

Just as his joke is not sexist, the entire gaming community that he critiqued in his essays is not sexist (just majority male, which is NOT sexist by itself).

Of course he's a writer and it's his job (or part of his job) to write articles, so he does it a lot better than random internet commenters.

The problem is that the majority of the gaming community aren't male (or if it is a majority, it is a SLIM one), it's just assumed/treated as such, which leads to insanity like the devs of Remember Me having to fight tooth and nail for their female protagonist to have a love interest because the publisher thought males playing as a female would be creeped out by having their avatar kiss another male character. Or Naughty Dog having to basically pull every bit of their clout to get Ellie, the ostensible protagonist of the game, on the cover of Last of Us.

I don't recall Patrick even calling the "majority" of the community sexist, just that they had problems with sexism that, for some reason, a sub-section (a VERY vocal one) don't even want to entertain the notion of. I don't think there's THAT much, if any, dissonance there.

You're right, of course, those situations are insane. But they aren't related to sexism, they're related to crappy market research and ridiculous advertising strategies devised by publishers. It's the devil known as focus testing and marketing analysts. They get stupid ideas in their heads, and suddenly you get Booker looking like some generic action hero on the cover of Bioshock: Infinite. And that isn't sexism, it's stupidity.

The majority of non-casual gamers are still male, but the gap is probably narrowing, so it's only a matter of time that developers won't have this problem. I feel that blaming the gaming community is not fair, however. And of course there is a backlash to the accusation - it feels like a personal attack, and most people know they aren't and have never been sexist in the slightest.

If you want more female protagonists in your games - support games with them! Some of my favorite games of all time had female protagonists, and were also critically acclaimed: The Longest Journey, Beyond Good and Evil, Portal.

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This game is WEIRD

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Thanks for covering this one guys, I was gonna give it a pass without really looking into it. I bought it before the Quick Look was over.

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Dude, Dog Soldiers was about ten years ago.

I'll take a sick Lich any day of the week.

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I always said weer-wolf. Where-wolf throws me for a loop every time.

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@posh said:

literally translates to "cold blood"

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Was getting this game mixed with the Van Helsing game that came out on steam recently, glad that I got both on the steam sale. This werewolf game looks interesting but will try it later. Haven't touched this game yet after finding video issues on the game where half the screen is covered in a black box & happier with the Witcher/Torchlight mix of the Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing (which should get a Vinny quick look).