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Quick Look: Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed (3DS)

Sonic and all his friends come to the 3DS, but they neglect to bring along the framerate.

Sit back and enjoy as the Giant Bomb team takes an unedited look at the latest video games.

Feb. 14 2013

Cast: Ryan

Posted by: Drew

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@laxbro19 said:

The console version performs far better.

What a shock!

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I had a good time with Super Mario Sunshine at the time. Think people malign it unfairly these days.

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Wow, this looks really bad. I can't believe the game was released in that state. It's supposedly built from the ground up and it looks and performs worse. Goddamn. I suppose that if I ever really get a itch for a portable version, I'll give the Vita version a try.

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I request for a Transformed TNT.

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Kids these days and their obsession over framerate. Brad is a framerate nazi.

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PC version runs blisteringly fast and looks gorgeous. Really enjoying it.

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I think Mario Sunshine is... ok. That's about the level of praise I can muster for it. It's not great.

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Too bad, could have been a fun portable version.

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@iamjohn: It's more likely a poorly optimized port of the vita version. That would make more sense.

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PC seems to be the place to play this. It actually is pretty good, especially the map design being really dynamic. Plus who doesn't want to play as SEGA's most beloved mascots SHOGUN and FOOTBALL MANAGER.

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Just got the 360 version. Seems pretty nifty, if a little rough around the edges. Now that 3DS version...woof. Just stick with Mario Kart 7.

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@ketchupp said:

Gross! And Sunshine was enjoyable. Better than that Galaxy shit IMO.

Did you play Galaxy 2? Because I hated the first Galaxy game, but 2 is really good. They got rid of almost all of the motion control garbage.

Wow did I just read that right? Galaxy 2 had exactly as much motion control stuff as the first one - which is, not much. Just a few rolling ball levels and flying instead of surfing. I mean, I liked Sunshine and all but you guys are talking crazy. Those Galaxy games are about the only redeeming things on the Wii, and they're both among the greatest games in existence. Definitely in the top ten of what Nintendo's ever made, and that's saying something.

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I don't care what anyone says! I love Mario Sunshine.

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I'd buy it if John C. Reilly himself was a playable character.

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@jjor64 said:

Bummer about this version. Get it on a console or PC. I have the Wii U version and it's great.

Yes The WiiU version is really good!

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Amazing frame rate.

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Well, I don't know how's the framerate and visuals because the video constantly drops to 240p without permission and the framerate on the entire video is jacked when I go full screen. So I'll wait until everything is fixed with the player.

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PC version runs blisteringly fast and looks gorgeous. Really enjoying it.

Yes, great game and also pretty hard at times.

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The truth about Mario Sunshine:

It's great!

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Games can look amazing on the 3ds but this looks really bad and those framerates, damn.

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Mario Sunshine was a fun game, but everyone wanted another Super Mario 64, so we didn't see it for what it was. I'm ashamed to have never played Luigi's Mansion for the same reason, and can't wait to try Dark Moon. I remember I bought Sunshine at EB because, as I was told, I could buy it for $30, and if I didn't like it, the trade-in value was also $30.

I kept it.

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The truth about Mario Sunshine:

It's great!

Amen. I never knew why people hated it so much.

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Damned it. I wanted this to be good. I put off buying the other ones for it ...

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@arghron said:

So let me get this right, Brad, you're interested in playing Super Mario Sunshine and yet (I'm pretty sure) you haven't and probably won't play Mario Galaxy (cause you don't own a Wii!??!?!!)!??!?!?! What!?!?!?

Sunshine's better than Galaxy.

Boom.

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It's a shame the performance is shit. I'm sure this would have been awesome if they somehow fixed the frame rate.

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I'm happy with my Wii U version, awful motion blur be damned.

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@arghron said:

So let me get this right, Brad, you're interested in playing Super Mario Sunshine and yet (I'm pretty sure) you haven't and probably won't play Mario Galaxy (cause you don't own a Wii!??!?!!)!??!?!?! What!?!?!?

Sunshine's better than Galaxy.

Boom.

I love Super Mario Sunshine too. But let's not go nuts.

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@triviaman09 said:

Actually Brad, I had no idea what a framerate was until I starting going to Giant Bomb. Unless it broke the game, I just didn't notice. A bunch of the games I played as a kid probably had horrible framerates.

thats something ive been revisiting recently and i can assuredly say that for me this was definitely correct, some of the games i played as a kid had the framerate of a childrens pop up book but back then i didn;t notice one bit

I played through StarCraft and Tiberian Sun on my 486 back in 1998-99. The framerate was really bad (and I knew it), but you get used to it. They were still playable. And, damn, every polygonal Genesis game had framerates like this, yet plenty of people are quite fond of the odd assortment of military simulations (like LHX Attack Chopper and M1 Abrams Battle Tank) on that system.

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Sunshine was great damnit.

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I hope Brad will try Mario sunshine, its a really cool game.

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@fisk0 said:
@buft said:

@triviaman09 said:

Actually Brad, I had no idea what a framerate was until I starting going to Giant Bomb. Unless it broke the game, I just didn't notice. A bunch of the games I played as a kid probably had horrible framerates.

thats something ive been revisiting recently and i can assuredly say that for me this was definitely correct, some of the games i played as a kid had the framerate of a childrens pop up book but back then i didn;t notice one bit

I played through StarCraft and Tiberian Sun on my 486 back in 1998-99. The framerate was really bad (and I knew it), but you get used to it. They were still playable. And, damn, every polygonal Genesis game had framerates like this, yet plenty of people are quite fond of the odd assortment of military simulations (like LHX Attack Chopper and M1 Abrams Battle Tank) on that system.

The only way you get "used" to it is if you have no alternative. My first computer was pretty shitty, and I downloaded Little Fighter 2, an indie side-scrolling brawler. The frame-rate was literally somewhere between 1 and 2 fps. The only upside was the game speed scaled down as well, making it somewhat playable. I played it bunch, assuming that's how it was supposed to play. Then I saw it on a friend's computer, on which it ran at least 10 times as fast as mine. Ignorance is bliss, as the saying goes, and that revelation was pretty depressing, knowing I was having a sub-sub-sub-par experience.

For a more recent example, the Team ICO Collection was praised for improving the frame rate, as SotC was pushing the PS2 to its limit. I played the PS2 version recently, and while completely playable, it's a mad bummer when the frame rate drops to the same 1-2 fps.

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The PC version runs buttery smooth and it's a fun kart racer, shame about this version.

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@thatdutchguy said:

mario kart 7 looks and plays great so i don't know why this game would have such bad framerate and graphics.

Bad programming

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@ghostiet said:

Well, I don't know how's the framerate and visuals because the video constantly drops to 240p without permission and the framerate on the entire video is jacked when I go full screen. So I'll wait until everything is fixed with the player.

You sure you don't have the video settings set to "auto"? Might be the 240p issue.

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This looks proper shit!

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oh that frame rate.....

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We're talking about Sunshine in here? Good game, worth playing. Not better than Galaxy.

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Sunshine is awesome. Don't hate!

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I'm crossing my fingers that Brad will play Sunshine and think it's actually pretty alright, because it is!

But lets be realistic, that's not gonna happen

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@hitchenson said:

@arghron said:

So let me get this right, Brad, you're interested in playing Super Mario Sunshine and yet (I'm pretty sure) you haven't and probably won't play Mario Galaxy (cause you don't own a Wii!??!?!!)!??!?!?! What!?!?!?

Sunshine's better than Galaxy.

Boom.

I love Super Mario Sunshine too. But let's not go nuts.

I would say Sunshine has better core gameplay than Galaxy. The controls are more solid and the movement is much faster and "free" like SM64. Though, as far as level design goes Galaxy reigns far above both, I feel like each have their strengths and are great, fun games. Galaxy probably takes the cake, though. Due 64's dodgy level design, poor camera and then Sunshine's design taking the sort of approach of playgrounds/environments from 64 and stretching it further(which benefits the game, creates a certain atmosphere of Isle Delfino), less of the classic Mario (obstacle) course that they got back to in Galaxy.

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This game looks terrible on the 3DS.

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This looks like a direct port of the old ds prequal version with the transformed gimmicks forced through.

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maaaaaaaaan, this looks kinda cool except for that horrid framerate!

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I am not normally a crass person, but my first thought on seeing this was, "Wow, this looks like ass."