Quick Look: Syndicate

This looks super cool and the demo was enjoyable awesome. The lack of an online pass makes it something I NEED to check out.

Looks good.

@MordeaniisChaos said:

@zaglis said:

@DJJoeJoe said:

@Deathpooky: You do realize that 6 hours is not 'terribly short' for a modern shooter right? Short would be closer to 4 hours, but at any length I'll take a good game over a mundane one and if that means they can deliver something worth while that lasts 'just' 6 hours then that's fine by me. I don't want to play for 8 hours than get incredibly bored and unable to finish a game that would take another 8 hours on top of that, just a waste of my time.

NO. FUCKING NO. Since when terribly short was considered 4 hours? 6 hours already is considered the bare, pathetic minimum for a 60$ game. *Virtual spit* on people like you.

Considering this game has a multiplayer component, saying it's 6 hours long is like measuring someone's cock by it's girth only. Since when was length important to the amount of enjoyment you get out of a fuckin game? If it's not worth it for you, fine, go play Skyrim, and enjoy all of the glitches and bugs and jank of a game with that much content. A six hour campaign with a really solid multiplayer component is worth $60 for me, and most people who have the money to support a habit like gaming. If your issue is getting your bang for your buck, then play the multiplayer a lot. I know if I get this game and some of my buddies get it, we will likely play it a fair amount. You have to recognize that there is more than length involved in the quality or even value of a single player component. Games like Skyrim and Borderlands and Mass Effect are awesome, I've probably played more of those than just about any other games. But they have to make sacrifices to get those games to have that much content. The content will have to receive less work per unit of time the player experiences it. Borderlands has a huge amount of content and massive replayability but the story is mostly limited to a couple of FMV sequences, scattered and quick dialogue and probably 80% quest text. I still loved the shit out of that game, but you know what game was just as awesome? Uncharted 3. And because it wasn't a billion hours of content rich, the developers were able to cram every bit of craft into every second of that game. The environments are much more detailed, the cutscenes, not only does the game have them but they are considered among the best in the entire industry, with excellent performance capture, animation, acting, writing, lots of cool shit happening in them. That game can be beaten in 3 hours. It usually took 6-8 hours. Are you saying that extra craft isn't worth it?

Starbreeze isn't some massive studio who can get the kind of capital required for a Mass Effect or a Metal Gear length experience. And they made a good game. If you can't afford it, too bad. But don't completely ignore parts of the game, and don't act like it's up to you do decide if it's worthwhile to anyone but yourself. Syndicate isn't a 6 hour game. Don't cry to everyone else when they are willing to put down their cash and get something worthwhile for it.

@stryker1121 said:

Too bad about the short campaign..that's the only reason i'd get this. I know Jeff loved it but I wouldn't mind more devs stop trying to be all things to all people, particularly in the FPS realm. In Syndicate there seems to be two modes that are light on content, instead of one complete kickass mode. From all I've read the co-op is more complete of the two, so why not just make a full-on co-op title out of this? Just don't bullshit me w/ these short shrift SP campaigns.

I like games that have separate singleplayer and coop components, because otherwise you are forced to do one or the other. Even if they had made everything coop with an option to play alone, the game would be focused for one way or the other. Much better to have a singleplayer campaign with a single player story and single player design and a coop campaign with a coop story and coop design, in my opinion. I like both, and I want both from games. And not many developers put coop in their games, so stop complaining about it! Or they'll stop v.v Gamers need to start asking for more coop in games, 4 player online coop is an awesome thing but so few games do it. I have friends, just because I play video games doesn't mean I hate everyone and only want to compete. I love cooperative experiences, and I love single player experiences. Hell, I'll even take coop kinda forced into a singleplayer experience if it means I can roll around with some buddies in Skyrim beating the shit out of some bandits. Games like Gears of War 3 are shining examples of why coop in games is always good if enough work is put into it. Mass Effect 3 is starting to look like it might have pretty cool coop gameplay too.

I might agree if this felt like shoehorning multiplayer into a game that shouldn't have it and doing it poorly, but this looks like an awesome experience either way, especially if your a big cyber punk buff. Like me!

I'm all about the SP campaign. I'm not on Live/PSN, as most of my buddies who game are strictly of the 'casual' Madden or Mario Kart-with-the-kids variety. No interest in playing w/ strangers, so co-op and MP are lost on me, and I'm not going to pay full price for half a game. My point was, if you're a dev, why not concentrate on one mode or the other instead of half-measuring both? Left 4 Dead gives no illusions that's it's a single player experience, and most people buying CoD are in it for the MP. Fine. But there are LOADS of games aping the success of CoD and cramming in MP components, which sometimes can water down the overall gaming experience and leave campaign gamers in the dust. I don't need 20 hr stories in a fast paced shooter, that would burn most people out, but 10-12 hours should be standard for campaign mode. Failing that, put all your resources into making an awesome, full-on co-op shooter, sans the afterthought campaign mode.

Those tracking bullets totally sold me on this lol.

You know it takes place in the future, because hexagons!

Haven't seen any marketing for this game, which makes me sad. I hope it does alright.

@mbr2 said:

@Tsuchikage said:

Wanted: Weapons of Fate was Starbreeze's previous project.

Syndicate looks pretty good. The graphics are great; some of it actually reminds me of Battlefield 3 (especially the lighting and interiors), although it's obviously not quite that good looking. The co-op looks really fun, but the campaign looks kind of forgettable. Oh, and the menus are hideous.

I thought that was GRIN who made Wanted?

Yep

I don't see how they think it's better than DXHR

I expected this to be a great game only because Starbreeze was behind it. It's really great to know even though the top dogs at Starbreeze left a while back, the remaining team still bears the Starbreeze style and quality they're known for.

Does this video freeze at 59:23 mark for anyone else?

Are you sure this isnt Deus Ex?

@PimblyCharles said:

I expected this to be a great game only because Starbreeze was behind it. It's really great to know even though the top dogs at Starbreeze left a while back, the remaining team still bears the Starbreeze style and quality they're known for.

PPl. learn their craft and move on furthor developing the concepts and skills origonated from others. Or maybe it always was a group thing. The one guy with the long hair (starbreeze group pic..Riddik I think?), always got the impression he was a main actor there, probably gone.

Ghost in the Shell...

@PimblyCharles said:

I expected this to be a great game only because Starbreeze was behind it. It's really great to know even though the top dogs at Starbreeze left a while back, the remaining team still bears the Starbreeze style and quality they're known for.

Jesus. Some people really, really liked that Riddick game, I guess.

53:00

Brad: Are you gonna let Sgt. Moose do you like that?

Jeff: .....No.

Did you guys know Deus Ex invented cyberpunk? I just found this out.

@Superfriend: What all have you heard concerning the pc version? Just curious, because I played for hours on end yesterday and didn't have any issues at all.

struggling with buying this, SSX, and Mass Effect 3. back to back to back.

FACT: Jeff knows how to play games.

Really want to get this but have no way of communicating online :(

Maybe when i get a new headset i will pick this up.

Looks amazing. I love the HUD stuff. 
 
Oddly enough, it reminds me of Kane & Lynch 2, which also looked pretty great (and was short).

@HyperionX3 said:

@Superfriend: What all have you heard concerning the pc version? Just curious, because I played for hours on end yesterday and didn't have any issues at all.

Probably just people pissed about Origin. I heard everything from sub-optimal optimization (which doesn´t really bother me) to interface issues (I can handle a console-looking menu). If it plays well with a mouse and keyboard setup, I´m gonna try it on PC.. dunno, just feels like the right platform for it. Oh, and that Alan Wake port is so amazing, it kind of renewed my faith in PC ports.

This is my favorite quick look ever! Glad to hear you guys giving respect to the old man, William Gibson... he doesn't get as much as he deserves! & Stephenson too! BRAD you need to read Neuromancer!!!!!!!

Actually, everyone needs to read Neuromancer. Get on it nerds.

Man, I really like that robotic female voice.

the background ambiance is a scanner/printer.

@Superfriend: Yeah, the Origin thing is a bit of bummer but not worth avoiding the game. (Although I wish it had achievements.) I can only speak for myself and a few friends, but I went for the pc version and have been very satisfied. I could see one complaint being that there aren't many graphics options, so if your rig isn't up to snuff there isn't a whole lot of downgrading you can do.

I'm just gonna say it, Miles Kilo sounds like a rapper/drug dealer

I got super excited for this and 100% ready to buy it, but whoops, not on steam.

You lost a sale EA.

Oddly long QL for a shooter. Guess EA and Starbreeze have something special here, huh? Here's hoping.

I hope Giant Bomb does SOMETHING with the Starhawk beta though; I just wanna see footage of that. Even though they don't QL betas often. Perhaps for TNT this week?

Riot Lance.

The way he holds the gun when he runs is really stupid. It looks like it should be in Saints Row or something.

@phrosnite said:

Ghost in the Shell...

That's a bad thing?

Missed opportunity to extract skull chip via the nose and then get your ass to Mars.

Looks pretty cool. I pay pick it up when it's cheaper.

I really like the gun sounds in this game.

Crysis 3 already? Crysis 2 came out just last year.

I'm not quite loving this as much as Jeff just yet, but I'm excited to jump into the co-op and hopefully have a bit more fun with that.

@Krystal_Sackful:Don't mean to sound like a dick but I doubt EA would care about one missed consumer.Plus if you wanted to get it badly enough that excuse wouldn't stop you,but you most likely just want to get it based on Jeff's word.

Last Starbreeze game was Dark Athena, you sillies.

Wow this looks great! Now i just need te decide on what platform to get it on...

If only Mirrors Edge 2 has this games gun play!

Guns look and sound awesome and look impactful. Gonna pick this up on Origin soon enough.

I NEED this game.

pooslice !

at first it seemed like the same stuff jeff would make fun of a game for like those codex business cards and him not mentioning whether or not the text matters or anything, where another game would probably have been like "why" lol that well known jeff answer "why"....but then he got a guy to shoot himself in the head and now I understand why he loves this game so much. lol thats just awesome and definitely would make up for any shortcomings and make the game at least worth checking out for myself.

In friday premiere in uk so my weekend that syndicate.

wow. I wish Deus Ex had looked and played like this.

Game looks cool and all, but I just cannot stand the blurry mess. Vaseline filter to the extreme here.

Looks good, not going to purchase it as long as it's purely Origin.

@Agent47 said:

@Krystal_Sackful:Don't mean to sound like a dick but I doubt EA would care about one missed consumer.Plus if you wanted to get it badly enough that excuse wouldn't stop you,but you most likely just want to get it based on Jeff's word.

Don't mean to sound like a dick but I doubt he is the only person on Steam that want's all his games in one place. I know I don't buy EA games that are not on Steam because of that too. I do want it that bad, but I refuse to buy it on other platforms because I don't want to have to log into different places to play all my games. I couldn't care less what Jeff thinks.