Unprofessional Fridays: 05/06/2016

How mad was the live chat at no one having read the way Pull Me Push You works?

Oh God, I can't begin to tell you how bad I wanna play Doom in VR!

Also check out Dan Carlin's podcast series on that topic too.

I'm 3 minutes in and the camera work is already just spectacular.

@7x_: yeah people make mistakes sometimes, you and your gifs will survive.

(I literally only see you nitpick)

You're not fooling anyone Brad, we all know you've spent thousands of dollars on DotA cosmetics.

Jason: Holy shit with the camera work at the Clash Royale talk! You captured some straight up The Office vibe. So great. :)

Jason you sneaky fuck....lol

All of his Hardcore History stuff is fantastic. The wrath of the Khans series is particularly good, as is the current one King of Kings.

Man, Jeff and Brad got sore during that push/pull game.

"...And Jason becomes a spooky ghost."

That noise Dan made when Drew started pouring beer in his mouth had me in tears.

3:17 Oh that's so good....

@ponyexpress said:

I loved it. I like Jeff, but anytime he isn't good at a game he just gets salty as fuck and blames the game so I love watching him lose. Jeff and Brad literally coordinated zero compared to where Drew and Dan were actually talking and working together. It isn't a hard concept.

Wow man I never realized how much Drew looks like weenerless Greyjoy from Game ofThrones.

@brad We must go deeper! There's also a source port of Quake with VR support. Also, Duke Nukem 3D has a rift version.

Yeah, totally. I had to stop watching the livestream because of the rising salt levels.

Man, I like the guy.. but Dan needs to read a history book or two.

I'm glad they finally are showing Push Me Pull You. I remember hearing about that game like 2 years ago.

As with Metal Gear, ignore Dan's assessment of the rules AT ALL TIMES. He's a tricky one but you must not listen.

Oh my god this Push me Pull you section is torture

The situation was perfectly designed so that nobody could check chat

The most shocking thing is that Dan knew who Franz Ferdinand was.

I don't even know how long Ghost Jason was there before I realised. I only noticed when Brad started to talking to him then walked into his Ghost Zone

That Doom bit was pretty good.

... Watching Brad play Doom in VR kind of reignited my interest for VR. Holy sugarcubes if it doesn't looks rad as hell.

Oculus DOOM? Then we could do Oculus Dark Forces... Oculus Duke3D... Ermergad.

How the hell can you guy's know so little about the First and Second World Wars ?. A period in history that cost the World close to 100 million dead and shaped the decades that followed. What on earth does the American education system teach ?.

Oh wow, the Human Centipede game segment was, yeah...

Jason was on fucking point today. I was having pretty much the same reactions as Dan.

@dr34dn0ught: The parts where they 'saved' and 'won' the wars.

Wow, Drew managed to gross out Dan. I didn't think that would be possible.

The idea that the Americans used a lot of guerrilla tactics is a myth.

Darkest of Days is one of my favorite QLs of all time, so I'm glad to see it return.

It's really interesting that after all the talk that VR games have to be slow - maybe even use teleporting in order not to make you sick - that it then turns out that one of the faster FPS games from the 90's is one of the best VR experiences.

@jonny_anonymous: The critically acclaimed biography of Alexander Hamilton I'm holding, written by a Pulitzer prize winning historian and author, from which I got that excerpt which is from an actual letter from a British soldier, disagrees with you. If you want to say they didn't matter as much as people typically think they did, then I'd agree, but they were definitely employed quite a lot and there seems to be plenty of evidence that the British complained about it like a bunch of whiners and/or were unsettled by it.

1:05:46 I'm saving that. Forever.

They did use it but only in small engagements and probably not as much as the British did considering the vast majority of Native Americans sided with the British and the Scottish units were also adept at that style of war. And even then, considering the kind of weaponry used then it would be almost impossible to fight a war based on guerrilla tactics.

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The guy that's mad at Americans for not knowing "enough" about the European fronts of wars from a century ago...that guy owns so hard.

Y'know who owns even harder? The guy mad at Dan Ryckert for not knowing something.

I'm going to sit here and be hypocritical as hell because I'm unreasonably mad about Dan splitting Churchill/Roosevelt/Stalin into vague "good guys" and "bad guys".

Do you want them to know more about the World Wars?

It was so funny watching Brad and Jeff make old man excuses when they are just outclassed in a game.

jasons cant eat

I love you guys but please get real keyboard ._.

I was interested in playing that push me pull you game at PAX and when i tried it out it was such garbage. It absolutely has the issues Jeff and Brad were complaining about with not having any leverage. I noticed Jeff was actually being really forgiving about it.

@cale: I'm just genuinely perplexed as to how they can know almost nothing about probably the darkest period in human history. I wasn't trying to be funny or a smart arse when I asked if they don't teach history in US schools. I'm seriously curious.

OK, the Doom bit might have just got me interested in VR.

@dr34dn0ught: Here in Norway, WW1 is barely a subject in school. Some of the basics, nothing more. WW2 is a bigger subject obviously, but I could barely tell you anything about WW1.

Per the Battlefield 1 talk, its important to remember ww1, contrary to popular belief, was not all trench warfare all the time. The beginning of the war saw huge clashes of highly mobile armies across France, Germany and Austria-Hungary, it had large landings like at Gallipoli in Turkey, fighting between Russian and Turkish forces, mountain warfare in Italy, etc.

and when it did settle down into Trench warfare, it never really did settle down, armies quickly found ways to clear trenches and had many ways to flank and tank them over.

By going a more action packed route, theyre not making it any less of a ww1 game. Theres ample opportunity to make trench warfare just one trope among many

I thought that moving around with WASD in VR made a person instantly sick, which is why everything is doing teleport from point to point. I wonder why it's completely fine in Doom. Also, if the Oculus is moving the cursor, and the mouse is too, how does that work?

@dr34dn0ught: Did your school teach you about World War 1? Everything I know about it has come from learning on my own outside of school because I never chose history as a subject. WW2 was briefly touched upon but it definitely wasn't in-depth or anything. This was school in the UK, not America.

Even if they did learn about the Wars I think it's common to forget a lot of the things you learned at school but don't have any real interest in, I know I have forgotten a whole lot.

Jeff and Brad got bodied so hard as Push Me Pull You that it made them hate the game.