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    StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty

    Game » consists of 10 releases. Released Jul 27, 2010

    The first chapter in the StarCraft II trilogy focuses on the struggles of the Terran race, as seen through the eyes of Commander Jim Raynor, leader of the rebel group Raynor's Raiders.

    SC2 not a GOTY candidate at VGA's

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    ThaMilkMan

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    #1  Edited By ThaMilkMan

    So yeah I just found this out which is relatively old news, but I was wondering what you all though of it's exclusion from the list which includes Call of Duty Black ops, Halo Reach, Red Dead Redemption, Mass Effect 2, and God of War 3....Maybe I'm crazy but COD black ops doesn't deserve that...it's done nothing revolutionary imo...any ways what do you guys think?

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    #2  Edited By csl316

    although SC2 hasn't done anything too revolutionary either, it's still one of the tightest and most well designed games i've played this year.  i think it should absolutely be up here.  probably the only game in the past 5 years i've spent over 50 hours on

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    #3  Edited By Sorasha

    I wasn't crazy about any of those games. Especially Blops. Personally I don't think any of them deserve it, save for RDR.
     
    But hey, my opinion ain't worth much.

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    #4  Edited By DystopiaX

    The VGAs don't count for shit anyway...it's a dumb show that doesn't really mean anything. Also, it's a western market so I'm not surprised they chose shooters over a strategy game. SC2 will be around until SC3 hits, and none of these games will be widely played a few years from now.

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    #5  Edited By Marz

    Super Mario Galaxy 2, Civilization 5 need to be up in that list.

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    #6  Edited By ThaMilkMan
    @Shikz: I see your point honestly I'd put Mass Effect 2, RDR, and Enslaved on there but, hey I'm crazy haha
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    #7  Edited By fixerofdeath
    @Shikz:  Considering Mass Effect 2 is on that list, no, your opinion really isn't worth much.
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    #8  Edited By shirogane

    If Black Ops and GoW3 are up there, that's kinda messed up. 
     
    But hey, who cares about the VGA anyway?
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    #9  Edited By m1k3

    The VGA's are just a popularity contest. SC2 is not as widely received as the games on that list.

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    #10  Edited By BunkerBuster

    How anyone can care what the Spike VGA's do still confuses me to this day. That show was never a legitimate focal point of gaming.

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    #11  Edited By fixerofdeath
    @DystopiaX:  I still play the original Mass Effect at least once every year. I'll likely be playing those games for a while.
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    #12  Edited By zeforgotten

    I don't really care since these lists are way different than my own.  
    What they say means nothing to me 

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    #13  Edited By shamroll

    I hate the VGA's.  It's like an MTV award show when we don't have an Academy Awards for video games.  The VGA's does nothing but reinforce video games negative stigma.
     
    This is the VGA's in a nutshell 
    http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=285

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    #14  Edited By GT-Man

    tah
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    #15  Edited By face15

    StarCraft doesn't have as wide as an appeal as those other games. The VGAs aren't necessarily made for people like us... or at least they're not only for us.

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    #16  Edited By Doctorchimp
    @face15: ....PC gamers? 
     
    It just shows how geared that network is towards the 13 year old console kiddie demographic though. 
     
    "SPIKE!!! WHAT ARE YOU A PUSSY??? WATCH OUR MACHO SHIT NOW!!!" 
     
    I do love the UFC stuff they put up occasionally and a few episodes of Ultimate Fighter though...
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    #17  Edited By xyzygy

    Since when are the VGAs credible at all? This is Spike. The same people that bring you Manswers and only play movies with a lot of explosions and half naked women.

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    #18  Edited By face15
    @Doctorchimp: Not just PC gamers. I myself primarily play on my PS3 but I acknowledge that StarCraft II is fucking incredible game. I just meant that most of the people on this site aren't the 13 year old macho douche bags that you described.
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    #19  Edited By wunder_

    Hahaha - VGAs.

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    #20  Edited By chrissedoff
    @m1k3 said:
    " The VGA's are just a popularity contest. SC2 is not as widely received as the games on that list. "
    yes it is
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    #21  Edited By VanderSEXXX

    Even their candidates for best shooter category aren't even deserving. I mean where the hell is Vanquish? if there is any shooter that deserves and award for innovation and gameplay, it's that game that deserves it the most. :p

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    #22  Edited By Cataphract1014

    It is the draw of console gaming over PC gaming.  PC games get less press and less coverage.
     
    The issue of Game Informer that they reviewed Starcraft 2 in, which got a perfect 10, it was only the "PC game of the month" with a small box on the review section title page.  Meanwhile, Halo: Reach, which got a 9.5 I think, took up the rest of the page, and it was named the "Game of the month".
     
    It is a sad time for PC gaming, and Blizzard and Valve are the two main companies keeping it alive.

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    #23  Edited By LiquidPrince

    So basically it's between Mass Effect 2 and God of War 3.

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    #24  Edited By Chubbaluphigous
    @Tarsier said:
    " VGAs are retarded anyway, who cares "
    This 
     
    The VGAs have been complete and utter shit for as long as they have been around.  The only reason people pay them any mind is because they are on TV, though, they are also painfully boring to watch.
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    #25  Edited By Cataphract1014
    @phrosnite:  Take your trolling else where.
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    #26  Edited By phrosnite
    @Cataphract1014: I'm not trolling, it's the truth. Just wait and you'll see...
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    #27  Edited By Jikla

    I'm more shocked that galaxy 2 didn't make the list.

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    #28  Edited By Ghostiet
    @face15 said:

    " StarCraft doesn't have as wide as an appeal as those other games. The VGAs aren't necessarily made for people like us... or at least they're not only for us. "

    The VGAs aren't for gamers. They're for Spike execs, so they can have something to rub their dicks on as "the people that CARE about the new media vessel which are TEH GAMEZ".
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    #29  Edited By Vinny_Says
    @ThaMilkMan said:
    Maybe I'm crazy but COD black ops doesn't deserve that...it's done nothing revolutionary imo...any ways what do you guys think? "
    Didn't you answer your own question there?
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    #30  Edited By Jack268

    ITT: Console exclusives 

     I'll be over here having my own opinion
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    #31  Edited By phrosnite
    @ThaMilkMan said:
    "Maybe I'm crazy but COD black ops doesn't deserve that...it's done nothing revolutionary imo...any ways what do you guys think? "
    Maybe so but they didn't spend 6 years developing the game.
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    #32  Edited By melcene

    People need to take into consideration numbers.  SC2 simply couldn't put up the numbers that the other games could, partly because it's only on one platform, and certainly not the most popular platform.  The other games mostly are multi-platform and put up LARGE numbers.  The only PC-only game I could really see competing, based on numbers, would be WoW.  I wouldn't be surprised if Cataclysm gets listed next year, but we'll see.
     
    Though for no one giving a shit about the VGAs there certainly are a fair amount of people posting about them or in threads about them.

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    #33  Edited By Doctorchimp
    @face15 said:
    " @Doctorchimp: Not just PC gamers. I myself primarily play on my PS3 but I acknowledge that StarCraft II is fucking incredible game. I just meant that most of the people on this site aren't the 13 year old macho douche bags that you described. "

    I was just getting at the fact that the VGA will snub PC games....since they aren't PC gamers.  
     
    Also where did you get that I was calling everyone who watches Spike a 13 year old? I was saying that's what Spike sells itself to the most. There's a difference. 
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    #34  Edited By ThaMilkMan
    @phrosnite you're right...but what if they did spend 6years on it imagine that.
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    #35  Edited By Chokobo

    Any award show outside of the Emmys and Oscars are all bullshit.
     
    Seriously, did anyone watch the AMAs last night.
     
    *shudder*

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    #36  Edited By ThaMilkMan
    @melcene
    People need to take into consideration numbers.  SC2 simply couldn't put up the numbers that the other games could, partly because it's only on one platform, and certainly not the most popular platform.  The other games mostly are multi-platform and put up LARGE numbers.  The only PC-only game I could really see competing, based on numbers, would be WoW.  I wouldn't be surprised if Cataclysm gets listed next year, but we'll see.
     
    Though for no one giving a shit about the VGAs there certainly are a fair amount of people posting about them or in threads about them.
    For the record no awards show of any sort should be a popularity contest, it is supposed to be decided on quality not if it sold large numbers. I'm sure uncharted 2 didn't sell as well as SC2 and that won tons of awards so unless you're saying that's the vga's criteria I must say invalid point here.

    And I may be mistaken here guys but I'm fairly certain that game journalists vote on some of these panels seeing as Jeff has voted for the chad for a number of years...or maybe I'm confused on the whole process.
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    #37  Edited By Cataphract1014
    @phrosnite said:

    " @Cataphract1014: I'm not trolling, it's the truth. Just wait and you'll see... "

    You are right.  You aren't trolling.  You only came to the message board of a game, said that it isn't worthy of any rewards, and then talked about how long it was in development in a negative light.  That isn't trolling.  That is just being stupid.  
     
    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty/critic-reviews
     
    Clearly a bad game.
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    #38  Edited By HitmanAgent47

    It's really the console video games award

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    #39  Edited By memo

    thats bs. SC2 should be on the list, I don't play that game that much but I understand why it should be there on the list. DUmb VGA

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    #40  Edited By melcene
    @ThaMilkMan: But who gets to decide what any particular awards show should be?  The people putting it on.  I'm not sure why you're comparing Uncharted 2 to SC2.  Uncharted 2 is NOT a GOTY candidate this year.  Sure, it was one last year, but you have to look at some of its competition last year.  Much of its competition was on the same level. 
     
    I'm not saying it HAS to be based on numbers, but numbers speak volumes is what I'm trying to say.  
     
    As for how they're decided, here you go from 2009: 
     

     Nominees for Spike TV’s 2009 “Video Game Awards” were determined by the VGA Advisory Council, made up of a group of the most well-respected experts in the industry for leading game media outlets such as GameTrailers.com, Game Informer, USA Today, Wired, Penny Arcade, GameSpot and IGN. Games released between December 2, 2008 and November 23, 2009 were eligible for nomination.    

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    #41  Edited By meteora

    Don't give a shit. Their list doesn't concern me. A list is a list, its not a life ruiner. 
     
    But if Brad doesn't get his shit down right with his GOTY list... hell will let loose.

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    #42  Edited By FancySoapsMan

    lame list

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    #43  Edited By MordeaniisChaos
    @ThaMilkMan said:
    " So yeah I just found this out which is relatively old news, but I was wondering what you all though of it's exclusion from the list which includes Call of Duty Black ops, Halo Reach, Red Dead Redemption, Mass Effect 2, and God of War 3....Maybe I'm crazy but COD black ops doesn't deserve that...it's done nothing revolutionary imo...any ways what do you guys think? "
    None of those games did anything revolutionary, they were all sequels that built slightly on previous entries in a series. Which Starcraft arguably did more than any of these except maybe God of War 3. 
     
    I agree that it should be in but I also understand that RTS games don't really work outside of the RTS crowd.
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    Goes to show that the VGAs ain't SHIT.

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    #45  Edited By THRICE

    SC2 not being nominated shows this thing is obviously rigged and it will be a crime if Mass Effect 2 isn't GOTY.  
     
    @xyzygy said:

    " Since when are the VGAs credible at all? This is Spike. The same people that bring you Manswers and only play movies with a lot of explosions and half naked women. "
    Hey this is also the same network that plays nothing but Star Wars for a whole weekend so don't totally damn them, just partially damn them.
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    #46  Edited By jmrwacko
    @m1k3:  Actually Starcraft II was incredibly widely received. It's strange they omitted it. Considering God of War 3 and Halo Reach also aren't multiplatform.
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    #47  Edited By MrKlorox

    Good. SC2 doesn't belong in the running because it would wipe out the other RTS's out of mass appeal. Same for WoW and MMOs as well as CoD in multiplayer shooters.
     
    No contest with these games in the running. Too bad some are.

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    #48  Edited By jakob187

    Given that the VGAs are a joke, I'm not surprised.

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    #49  Edited By GunslingerPanda

    Blops and GoW3 being on that list says more about the VGAs than any Internet thread could.

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    #50  Edited By RedEyesBlueBunny

    VGAs are a joke anyway, not a big deal

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