I Need Some SFIV Advice

#1 Posted by Agnogenic_delete (1034 posts) -

Hey guys! I need some advice. 

I originally got into SF IV as soon as it came out. I was improving and getting better but then my brother lost the disc after I let him borrow it at his apartment. 
I started watching some of loltima's videos and it has gotten me really pumped to start playing again. But, I want to get a fightstick but after googling everyone recommends a different stick and most of them are sold out and then the prices are jacked up on Amazon. Is there anywhere I can get a stick? Which one would you guys recommend? Any advice would be appreciated.
#2 Posted by logson (521 posts) -

I played SF2 on the SNES, so the Fightpad works out best for me. If you grew up playing SF on a pad, I could not recommend the Fightpad more. They're pretty much impossible to find, but they're going to be bundled with the PC version of the game according to 1Up. I can't comment on the quality of any of the joysticks.

#3 Posted by License_To_Bill (792 posts) -

I would wait for new shipments, since every stick or pad I look at is sold out. Hori's website is getting new ones in July, apparently.

#4 Posted by TheCreambun (119 posts) -

According to the bombcast there will be made new fighsticks for the release of MvC2, so if you dont have any luck finding one before then you can just preorder one of those.

#5 Posted by lordofultima (6208 posts) -

Yeah, new sticks being released with MVC2, Not sure if you seen my video about the fightstick bitching or me modding it, but they're both available at my vimeo page (which I no longer use). As for arcade sticks in general, they're probably not going to make you better, you just have to make a commitment to Street Fighter to get better. If you're used to a pad I'd say stick with it, but if you're willing to take the initial performance hit to learn how to play on a stick, it's not a bad investment.

#6 Edited by Agnogenic_delete (1034 posts) -

Yeah, I am willing take the performance hit. Looks like I will have to wait until the MvC2 sticks come out because I can't find anything that isn't ridiculously priced right now. :/

Looks like I'll wait until the Mad Catz controller is avaialbe and use that. Then maybe I will replace the parts inside.
#7 Posted by slinky6 (567 posts) -
Agnogenic_delete said:
Yeah, I am willing take the performance hit. Looks like I will have to wait until the MvC2 sticks come ... [more]
MvC2 sticks were fake.   They aren't coming out.
#8 Posted by Agnogenic_delete (1034 posts) -
slinky6 said:
Agnogenic_delete said: Yeah, I am willing take the performance hit. Looks like I will have to wait until the MvC2 ... [more]

Sounds like I will be waiting for a fight stick for a long time... I set up auto notifcations so whenthe SFIV sticks come in I'll know about it from a couple websites at least.
#9 Posted by Vinchenzo (6192 posts) -

I would say get a cheap stick to make sure you like it. Then upgrade from there.

#10 Posted by Jolly_Lolly (3537 posts) -

I play on the X360 controller and do fine. Honestly, it really doesn't matter what you use to play the game, it's how you play it.

#11 Posted by Agnogenic_delete (1034 posts) -
@Vinchenzo: Yeah, its what I plan to do. I want to get a cheap one that I can replace the parts with. :)
#12 Edited by slinky6 (567 posts) -
Jolly_Lolly said:
I play on the X360 controller and do fine. Honestly, it really doesn't matter what you use to play the ... [more]
Well the 360 pad does affect how you play, though.   Unintended inputs for the loss.
#13 Posted by Agnogenic_delete (1034 posts) -
slinky6 said:
Jolly_Lolly said: I play on the X360 controller and do fine. Honestly, it really doesn't matter what you use to ... [more]
Yeah, that is the main reason. When I have learned how to time moves to counter I would like to able to pull them off before its too late.
#14 Posted by Jolly_Lolly (3537 posts) -
slinky6 said:
Jolly_Lolly said: I play on the X360 controller and do fine. Honestly, it really doesn't matter what you use to ... [more]
I'm saying if you get used to any controller enough, even the 360 one, you'll play fine, damn good even.

Blaming a controller for your lack of skills and spending $100+ on another one, and thinking you'll play god like right out of the gate, isn't the wisest move.
#15 Posted by Agnogenic_delete (1034 posts) -
@Jolly_Lolly: That isn't what I think. I realize that my skill will drop but I think that overall you can be better if your using a stick over a controller. I am not saying you can't beat someone who has a stick but I think using one gives you more potential I guess?
#16 Posted by Jolly_Lolly (3537 posts) -
Agnogenic_delete said:
@Jolly_Lolly: That isn't what I think. I realize that my skill will drop but I think that overall you can ... [more]
Well I wasn't really aiming that comment at you or anything, hell I'd love to have one of those sticks for myself, but I'm just warning people to consider their purchases first.

Yeah, the stick would probably give you better handling and easier combos, but it will take some time before you truly begin to dominate with it (even longer if you've never used one before).

I've had a lot of friends who gave up on theirs, complaining that they weren't any better with them than with the X360 pads. You've gotta have a lot of patience with it.

If you're willing to dedicate the time to get good with it, I say go for it. All the pro's use them, so there must be some advantage I suppose.

Good luck.
#17 Posted by slinky6 (567 posts) -
Jolly_Lolly said:
slinky6 said: Jolly_Lolly said: I play on the X360 controller and do fine. Honestly, it really doesn't matter what you ... [more]
I never blamed the controller for my lack of skill.   I'm used to the 360 pad enough that I've done almost all the hard trials and gotten around 3500 GP with it.   Plus I know that once I finish building my stick I'll go through a period of being a huge scrub all over again as I get used to it.   All I'm saying is that with the 360 pad there are going to be times when you do something you really didn't mean to for no other reason than that the 360 dpad is garbage and doesn't accept the input.   Also, after the few months that I've been playing my 360 pad is getting worn out.   My right trigger is busted and whenever I let go of it, it counts as an input, and my dpad is all floppy.   The 360 pad will work for SF, but it is definitely not condusive to fighting games in the least.   However, I am part of the minority that thinks the 360 controller is better for SF than the PS3 controller. 
#18 Edited by MB (11969 posts) -

I use the 360 controller's analog stick for SF.  Ah, I'm going to start a poll.

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#19 Posted by Jolly_Lolly (3537 posts) -
slinky6 said:
Jolly_Lolly said: slinky6 said: Jolly_Lolly said: I play on the X360 controller and do fine. Honestly, it really doesn't matter ... [more]
Well, I don't think anyone should be using the D-Pad, but I agree that sometimes the wrong moves do come out from time to time.

It's still pretty decent though, and it'll hold over until (hopefully) more sticks come out.

#20 Posted by Agnogenic_delete (1034 posts) -
MB said:
I use the 360 controller's analog stick for SF.  Ah, I'm going to start a poll.
Sounds like you might get interesting results. :D
#21 Posted by Linkyshinks (9881 posts) -

Try a Hori Real Arcade Pro or a bog standard EX model.

#22 Posted by slinky6 (567 posts) -

I suppose if you started learning the game and all your combos with the analog stick that'd be alright.   But I started with the dpad, so I'm kind of stuck with it unless I want to spend a few days sucking at the game to get used to the analog sticks.

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