I simply don't get why people like to play that way. I mean it's not completely boring or anything, I like to do it just to mix it up every now and then, but constant play like that would get boring a lot more quickly than playing on the variety of awesome, crazy stages with all of the cool items. It's always been my thought that the SSB series was never supposed to be some ultra competitive fighting game like Street Fighter or Tekken. Also, lets be honest, the game simply does not have the depth of crazy combos like those games do. Also, I know people say the other stages and items create "cheapness", which to a certain extent, sure. However, in my experience, the person that played the best game usually wins. Besides, it's not really about winning, it's about having fun enjoying the absolute chaos. Playing Brawl on Final Destination with no items would be playing Mario Kart on Luigi's Circut with no items...and that's just dumb, yo.

I have a lot of friends that like playing Smash this way... I don't like playing Smash with them. It just seems like a strange choice of a fighting game to be competitive about.

I always liked Super Smash Brothers because of the crazy stages,the random items that fly out of the sky, and having four players just beating the shit out of each other. Any other way is just plain weird. 

 It just seems like a strange choice of a fighting game to be competitive about. "

completely agree with OP. i don't even know what i can add to that, you pretty much got it all down. SSB is super fun to play with friends, but weak if you're trying to be ultra-competitive with it

It's because they are bad people who only care about winning.

If it's how they have fun why does it matter to you?

I'll agree Brawl is not a game that should be played competitively. Melee on the other hand actually has a wealth of advanced techniques, and depth that matches mechanics of traditional fighting games.

No one who attends tournaments just plays on Final Destination. Platforms are an important part of competitive play, and the series in general.

Items are ridiculously unbalanced and mostly based off luck. This is why when people want to have a skill orientated match, they turn them off.

So there you go. Play the game however you want of course, but that's why some people prefer certain stages and no items.

I just build a flat stage with tall sides you cant jump out of and then turn on max items, soccer balls only.

Super Smash Soccer.

The OP kinda answered the question himself. The only reason for doing this LAME match is to make it a pure game of skill and not luck. That and its LAME because the game wasn't meant to be played that way. kinda funny how your friends will do that but not play SSF4 and such (ok, its only funny if they don't, but the truth could be that they do play SSF4 (and other proven fighting games) but it just not stated. 

I'm not really competitive about the game, but I do find that in two player games I enjoy it more if items are turned off. And the nice thing about final destination is that there's no messing about with a massive stage, no downtime, it's pretty much a constant fight. It's a game with a multitude of options that cater for a large variety of playstyles, yo. There's no need for hating.

" @Blubba: If you're not a competitive person it can be hard to understand. It really sucks to lose the match because of something like the smash ball or a random stage trap. Those things are fun at first, but after the novelty wears off they are frustrating, both for the person that lost, but possibly more so for  the winner who had just lost the chance to win fair and square.Ironically when someone is really good at SSB it's the items and crazy moving stages that make the game less fun to play. "

AGREED.

" The OP kinda answered the question himself. The only reason for doing this LAME match is to make it a pure game of skill and not luck. That and its LAME because the game wasn't meant to be played that way. kinda funny how your friends will do that but not play SSF4 and such (ok, its only funny if they don't, but the truth could be that they do play SSF4 (and other proven fighting games) but it just not stated.  "

Fighting game snobs suck.

Competitive Smash is dumb. In some ways, it's even dumber than competitive Pokemon, because at least the Pokemon people can make claim that the mechanics that encourage such play were put in the game by developers. In contrast, Smash is a party game that players have to remove options from in order to make it competitively viable. They're fun games, but my interest in competitive Smash (much as competitive pokemon) is one born out of irony that they exist in the first place.

SSBM is fun as a party game, and it's a fantastic (and extremely technical) competitive game as well.  It's what makes that game so good.  It shouldn't be knocked simply because no other fighting game has been able to reach both sides of the table.

Agreed

But by removing items and playing exclusively on a single flat surface, you remove a lot of the game's appeal.  The "ideal" competitive mode of Smash Bros. is a sterilized environment that forsakes what many enjoy about the games, and it's annoying to play against people that find No Items/Final Destination the only way to go.  In my experience, they'll fight to have the game played their way, even if it's a non-competitive, non-tournament setting, and will incessantly complain if they don't get their way. "

" I'll agree Brawl is not a game that should be played competitively. Melee on the other hand actually has a wealth of advanced techniques, and depth that matches mechanics of traditional fighting games.No one who attends tournaments just plays on Final Destination. Platforms are an important part of competitive play, and the series in general.Items are ridiculously unbalanced and mostly based off luck. This is why when people want to have a skill orientated match, they turn them off.So there you go. Play the game however you want of course, but that's why some people prefer certain stages and no items. "

I like playing Smash that way...less randomness but still really fun. I don't like too much of the crazy in the game.

I play without items because it removes the random part of the game. (smashball is cool sometimes)

I play on all stages though.

Having said that, everyone has their way of playing.

" Playing Brawl on Final Destination with no items would be playing Mario Kart on Luigi's Circut with no items...and that's just dumb, yo. "

It's a party fighting game. While unexplored as a genre you can't expect some people to turn it into more fighting less party. Everyone has their way of playing.

Only way to play that game is with Red shells on high and high damage on the animal crossing map...at night...on a Saturday. YOU HAVE NO WHERE TO HIDE AS K.K SLIDER SINGS YOU TO YOUR DOOM!

Dictating how people should or shouldn't play a game: LAME!

@BBQBram: Reviving old threads: LAME!

Agreed, it's a party fighter and party fighters should be fun, quirky and downright crazy. They shouldn't be about competition but the fight itself. The competition just helps the flow.

@BBQBram: Reviving old threads: LAME!

@Matoya said:

@DeeGee said:

@BBQBram: Reviving old threads: LAME!

If it's still relevant, it's okay to do, calm down. Would you rather he made a new thread on the same topic?

Yes. Yes I would.

I WILL NEVER CALM DOWN.