Who is your best guy and who do you still hate?

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#51 Posted by Sarkhan (1196 posts) -

Just a thing. Live now. Learn something. If im not to late. Nina will be playing soon. Love that gal :)  http://no.justin.tv/leveluplive#/w/1322610048/3 
 
Edit: Philipino champ. I love that dhalsim. Im actually scared of his sim 
But he is gone. Enjoy 

#52 Posted by Pessh (2459 posts) -
@Napalm said:
@Pessh said:
Can't take playing this low tier bs anymore.
Suck less.
Ok, I'll try, and if that doesn't work I'll just play an easy mode character like Guile.
#53 Edited by Sarkhan (1196 posts) -
@Pessh said:

@Napalm said:

@Pessh said:
Can't take playing this low tier bs anymore.
Suck less.
Ok, I'll try, and if that doesn't work I'll just play an easy mode character like Guile.
Tbh...i love that comment. It's do true. In AE? I cant back that up as i'v seen INSANE ppl playing. But in general? yes :) 
#54 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -
@Pessh said:
@Napalm said:
@Pessh said:
Can't take playing this low tier bs anymore.
Suck less.
Ok, I'll try, and if that doesn't work I'll just play an easy mode character like Guile.
You played easy mode 'rog for a good portion of your fighting life, so that doesn't seem like a far stretch.
#55 Posted by Sarkhan (1196 posts) -

Ken will never be in play. I respect hc play ken, but still relly on spam at wake up or!!!!!! not. so the skill is, do i fake or to i comit.....yes.

#56 Posted by cheebaking (123 posts) -

My feeling is, if you lose to a bad player, its your own fault.

A mashing player is a dog pooping on the rug. Every time they do it, you punish with a punch to the nose. Will the dog learn the lesson? Doubtful. Will the dog get his ass kicked? Yup. Additional. I don't own a dog.

However, that all being said, I wish to add Adon to my "hate" characters. The amount of times I've been knocked down, only to have an Adon get right up close, jump up, then kick. I know its coming. Yet every time I let it happen. It sickens me.

@Vortexus1981

I have no idea of my Rose ranking these days. I still don't understand the little trophy sign and what that means.

I think my main problem with Bison is just finding it difficult to close the gap quickly and safely. I often find myself getting hit with a crouching light hit and the rest that follows. That and I still have a few salty memories of Geteveryone and his Bison for the terrible months that preceded his Gouken days.

Rose isn't too hard to learn. Its all about being tricky with her spacing. Soul Spirals and every version of medium kick all have ridiculous properties. My tactic online is usually, spend the first round playing safe, then second round suddenly getting right in there face. People panic when Rose gets up in the grill.

Offline, my tactic is to slide everywhere and knock the controller out of the opponents hand when I random ultra. I believe this is a tournament strategy.

AE Rose? Not much has changed. Only the properties of Ultra 2 which sucks big time. Pretty easy to get knocked out of it now. Good for mix ups when they're down I guess. I'm still pretty gutted about it.

#57 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -
@cheebaking: Rose's slide is fucking crazy. It's a mindfuck when it catches you off guard.
#58 Posted by StarvingGamer (8287 posts) -

Best chars Boxer and Dan
Fave chars Rose and Seth
Hate fighting Ken and Blanka

#59 Posted by corpulateguitar@gmail.com (38 posts) -

PSN- PerilousOnset add me please so we can duke it out

Best Char Honda and personally i like fighting all characters (good for practice even though i get destroyed by a few) .

#60 Edited by NinjaHunter (973 posts) -

Best with Dudley. Hate Zangief, never ever liked fighting him.

#61 Edited by GetEveryone (4455 posts) -
@cheebaking said:


Offline, my tactic is to slide everywhere and knock the controller out of the opponents hand when I random ultra. I believe this is a tournament strategy.

QFT. 

@Vortexus1981 said:

@StaticFalconar said:

I like Chun, and adon, but I really don't mind playing with full time grapplers and shotos just to hone in on my basics. Despite the Hate Yun boat everybody's on these days, I believe Yang is more versatile and unlikely to have a bad match up.   Sodium levels aside for certain playstyles, I always roll my eyes when I see Rog on the screen. Yes, I used to play Rog way back then, but its honestly boring. Yes I realize its a pretty solid game that rog has, but other than a few rogs I've seen, its just the same shit over and over again. Its honestly hard to concentrate when you're bored and thats when I make mistakes. 
Hun? Im not a amazing sf player. But i HATE rog. I know high lvl players have skill, but lossing to rog? I never get salty, always say tomyslef(hold, strike, spin a few light, cant link? I'll hold)  But then again. I love playing low tier characters. always have, and alway will:) Dj,c.v. Only chun is my highest tierd player. and i kinda cant play chun now :S But then again   ...... I love playing DJ atm. Most i'v ran into are ryu(ofc.....) *Spam wake up, kick vortex. and you beat then within 30 sec. So much fun. :) 
C. Viper is in the top 5 in the game (not top mention the fact that she's always been solid as hell) and DJ is pretty good in AE. 
 
In terms of tier rankings, the playing field in AE is still surprisingly even, bar the very top couple of tiers made up of only a few select characters.
#62 Edited by Sooty (8082 posts) -

My best is Sagat and has been since vanilla, can also play Balrog at a high level and Bison.
 
Been playing with Yun quite a lot, like the rushdown. Hate playing Ryu and Blanka still, I can't stand Ryu because he has so many ways to get free, no-effort ultras and it's irritating.
 

@VicRattlehead

said:

@Pessh: did chun get mad buffs? i ran into more chuns this afternoon in ranked than i ever did in super


I think Chun got a few nerfs, she was top tier in SSFIV but has gone down a bit now.
 

S


Yun, Yang, Fei Long

A


Zangief, C. Viper, Sagat, Akuma, Cammy, Makoto

B


Ken, Chun-Li, Balrog (Boxer), M. Bison (Dictator), Adon, Sakura

C


Abel, Dee Jay, Ibuki, E. Honda, Seth, Cody, Guy, Vega (Claw), Rufus, Ryu, Blanka, Dudley, Dhalsim, Juri, El Fuerte, Guile, Gen, Gouken, Rose, Oni, Evil Ryu

D


Hakan, T. Hawk, Dan
 
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/may/31/super-street-fighter-4-arcade-edition-tiers-arcadia/ 

It's funny how Makoto was the worst character in SSFIV after Dan if I remember the tiers right but now she's way up there.
 
I don't see why people complain about Yun so much, he has a lot going for him but he's nowhere near as easy to use as Ryu and has low-ish health.
#63 Posted by Jadeskye (4367 posts) -

@antikorper said:

Juri Han also seems like an awesome character, yet I don't have Super Street Fighter so... I can only regret. Kids will get mad no matter who you beat them with. I suck myself so I avoid online matches ]:D

I main Juri and yes, she's awesome! but i play way too predictably so if anyone has ever played me before, chances are you'll win XD

#64 Posted by McShank (1629 posts) -

Main is Cody and Cammy... cant pick between them as my profile has them basically even in the % on amount of playing, then sakura/dan and i play an occasional abel. The Characters i hate are ken and fei long.. Ken and his retarded Shoryuken breaking every move. Fei long i just hate because my friend loves him and we always fight back and forth with our mains..

#65 Posted by GlenTennis (3145 posts) -

I still rock Gief and Hawk. Hate Chun.

#66 Posted by Sooty (8082 posts) -
@McShank said:

Main is Cody and Cammy... cant pick between them as my profile has them basically even in the % on amount of playing, then sakura/dan and i play an occasional abel. The Characters i hate are ken and fei long.. Ken and his retarded Shoryuken breaking every move. Fei long i just hate because my friend loves him and we always fight back and forth with our mains..

Shoryuken only 'breaks' moves if you mess up combos! If people are mashing it while you are trying to do a combo just stop the combo on purpose to bait the uppercut then hit them hard afterwards.
#67 Posted by chrissedoff (2116 posts) -

i play as balrog and i fucking haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate yun and yang. they are bullshit to the point where they totally buttfuck any semblance of balance

#68 Posted by GetEveryone (4455 posts) -
@Rufi91 said:
Ken is seriously whatever. He just is what he is, he is not Ryu and he is not Akuma in a big way. He is unoffensive in every way he can win he can lose he's get to jump into and sure he is very popular and his SRK is strong but that is about it. I don't how you can argue he is spammy or OP when its just not true. He is so middle teir every single time. 
http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2008/oct/17/street-fighter-4-tiers-character-rankings/
He's really good in AE, though :) 
 
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/may/31/super-street-fighter-4-arcade-edition-tiers-arcadia/ 
 
Top Ten Ken makes me a happy, happy boy.
#69 Posted by rmanthorp (3965 posts) -
@GetEveryone: What? You are reading that Tier list right? He is still middle always have been mostly likely always will be and that is a good thing because it means it takes a good player! :D
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#70 Edited by GetEveryone (4455 posts) -
@Rufi91: Yup, pretty sure I'm reading it right. He is still in the top ten, if you count (and according to Mago/Daigo/Tokido he is also in the top 10 http://www.neoempire.com/?p=6269) C tier in that isn't really mid-tier (even though it technically is) in that list since it only contains the top 10-15 characters. The tiers in AE are all so close that it doesn't really mean much, but I can tell you that going from Super to AE he is much improved. Just a handful of small buffs made him a far more solid character, and he's definitely not mid-tier (in the sense that he is no longer at the mid-way point between the other characters, since mid-tier in that list is half-way at all).
#71 Edited by Sooty (8082 posts) -

I really don't understand why people complain about Yun having simple and damaging combos?
 
Sagat, even in AE... j.hp > st.mp > uppercut = 301 damage, 349 with angry scar. 
 
j.hp > st.mp > rh.tiger knee = 331
 
That's the same amount of some characters super combos.
 
With Yun the highest combo I've done without excessive meter use or supers/ultras is cr.mp x2 > st.mp > rh.upkicks and that's only around 260 I think, bit more with EX, you can get to around 300 if you do the lunge afterwards.
 
and that combo I just listed above is way harder than the Sagat ones, my gran could do those.

#72 Posted by Belonpopo (1823 posts) -

I haven't played it yet but I heard Sakura got mad buffed, so that's good.

#73 Posted by lordofultima (6252 posts) -

@Vortexus1981: Chun actually got nerfed. Her light kick anti-air is a little worse, and stand fierce also worse.

#74 Posted by Giacomito (208 posts) -

Main cody, dont really hate any characters, just hate player-types, like the shoryuken-mashers. Not because they are hard to beat, they are braindead easy, but because they make the game boring... Cross-up, pause, block shoryuken, punish.

Also, I have a little hate for Giefs, because I can spend like 70 seconds zoning him out and then I make one mistake and its game over due to cody's POOR wake-up options.

#75 Posted by SethPhotopoulos (5285 posts) -

I hate grab characters.

#76 Posted by MysteriousBob (6272 posts) -

  

 This stupid asshole. 
I haven't played AE, I refer to his overall design.
#77 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -
@GetEveryone said:
@Rufi91 said:
Ken is seriously whatever. He just is what he is, he is not Ryu and he is not Akuma in a big way. He is unoffensive in every way he can win he can lose he's get to jump into and sure he is very popular and his SRK is strong but that is about it. I don't how you can argue he is spammy or OP when its just not true. He is so middle teir every single time. 
http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2008/oct/17/street-fighter-4-tiers-character-rankings/
He's really good in AE, though :) 
 
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2011/may/31/super-street-fighter-4-arcade-edition-tiers-arcadia/  Top Ten Ken makes me a happy, happy boy.
Seeing that tier list pisses me off, and I usually don't give a fuck about tier lists.
#78 Posted by rmanthorp (3965 posts) -
@Napalm: They are and forever will be a thing that fighting game pros take seriously. You just have to learn to expect them...
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#79 Posted by Bloodgraiv3 (2712 posts) -

Dudley, Akuma and Hawk are my mains. 
I still hate Juri, Rufus and Rose. 
#80 Posted by ThePhantomnaut (6197 posts) -

EVERYONE.

#81 Posted by Rmack (1078 posts) -

@JJOR64 said:

Use Honda and Hakan. Still hate everyone else.

Same here! Though the only characters I "hate" are Seth, Yun, and T. Hawk. The first two I hate fighting, T. Hawk I just think has always been a horrible design.

#82 Edited by Shadow (4981 posts) -

I use Cammy, Bison, Dudley, Zangief, and I'm trying (and failing) to get good with Oni or Yun.
 
I HATE HONDA SO MUCH!

#83 Posted by Sacerdos87 (157 posts) -

Zangief. Projectile characters. It's a natural hate that comes with playing him.

#84 Posted by Jemenez (274 posts) -

I main Zangief, blanka can go to hell
#85 Posted by lilbigsupermario (842 posts) -

Makoto all the way :D 
 
I still hate Balrog, Blanka and Cammy :D

#86 Posted by 500xp (68 posts) -

Let's see, I've mained Balrog since vanilla. Definitely digging Yun & Yang. Probably gonna pick up C. Viper eventually. I fucking hate t. hawk. I'm not too fond of sagat. and i want zangief to die in a nuclear fire.

#87 Posted by LiquidSaiyan3 (461 posts) -

I've mained Elf since Vanilla and still love the character, but was never really consistent with him (still can't RSF for my life). Lately I've discovered an affinity for Honda.

Hate is a strong word, but I tend to panic when I see T. Hawk, 'Gief, and Yun.

#88 Edited by leroyrockwell (49 posts) -

I mained Chun Li since Vanilla but picked up Ibuki, Ken, Gouken, and Guy. The best to worst in that order.

I hate Cammy because my eternal Rival plays with him.

I hate really Zangief

EDIT. OOPS I DIDN'T CLICK TO THE LAST THREAD BUT SORRY GUYS.

@Vortexus1981 said:

@VicRattlehead said:

@Pessh: did chun get mad buffs? i ran into more chuns this afternoon in ranked than i ever did in super

I know you didn't adress me, but^^ chun actually didn't get any debuff(for count) so she can still go on and destry you if you had problems before:)

Her df-low kick is now a maybe on anti air, and he d-heavy kick lost some damage and stun.

The best thing she got was a better hit box for her focus attack, but everything is about the same.

#89 Posted by Twiggy199 (498 posts) -

I main Ibuki and Seth, and HADO characters can suck my giant bomb!. .....especially Ken.

#90 Posted by reruns (63 posts) -

I main Balrog, but I'll probably be picking up Yang since I've been learning him in 3S for the last few weeks.
 
My least favorite matchup in Super was Chun, but that was pretty much just because I kept getting fooled by that bullshit hitbox on her focus, but now that's gone, so it's probably Deejay.

#91 Posted by xSoulBeaver (9 posts) -

I main Guy and sub Rose, and occasionally try to use Dudley.

As scrubby as it is, I still hate Blanka and Honda :P Those damn weird hitboxes!!

#92 Posted by thatpinguino (1058 posts) -

I main hakan with a little fei and fuerte on the side.
 
I still hate ken and ryu.

#93 Posted by musclerider (589 posts) -

I main Cody but his Japanese voice is the worst thing ever printed on disc.

#94 Posted by LiquidPrince (15969 posts) -

Chun is and always has been my girl. I also side Cammy sometimes.

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