I don't understand the hype surrounding this game. It doesn't look very exciting, the land they picked for this new TES adventure looks boring and bland and not at all that creative, and the previous Bethesda games such as Oblivion and Fallout 3 were pretty bad. From the looks this game does not look very exceptional. However the game is not out yet, I have not played it and it might blow me away, but I can not imagine that being a very likely possibility based on the gameplay videos and trailers and the previous Bethesda efforts. Is it maybe the fact that the console version will also support mods ?

The chance for another Morrowind.

Because its the next Bethesda game, and people really like Bethesda games? I do. That's why I am hyped. Also, you are bland and boring and not all that creative.

Dragons

Awesome snowy mountains and villages = Boring / Bland?

Oblivion & Fallout 3 were great at their time of release. It doesn't seem like its your type of game at all... Console version won't support mods.

@StLucifer said:

Dragons

@Mageman said:

...and the previous Bethesda games such as Oblivion and Fallout 3 were pretty bad.

What?

Because Oblivion. Although I couldn't get into it but that's because I played Fallout 3 first and I loved that game. How are Oblivion and Fallout 3 "pretty bad"? Can you explain the reasons why you don't like them?

@Mageman: nope, it that these are the most ambitious and open games that have ever been made, and if you are willing to ignore middling combat they provide experiences that no other game even attempts to give you.Oblivion was a poor introduction to them though. Morrowind was just incredible.

Fighting dragons! 

Because people like them.
 
See - opinion.

Because Bethesda games are unparalleled when it comes to exploration in video games...and I like exploring.

For me it's very simple. It's the end of the year, we've had a ton of fantastic games all year long, but for me most of the ones that really stuck were very predictable and linear and you kind of knew what you were getting into from the start (Gears of War 3, Uncharted 3, et al). Skyrim is a chance for me to get lost and immersed in a massive game of which I know little of its contents. Sure the formula is going to be very similar to Oblivion, but it's what's inside that game and the nature of its scale that is exciting to me.

@FreakAche said:

@Mageman said:

...and the previous Bethesda games such as Oblivion and Fallout 3 were pretty bad.

What?

He's right though. Oblivion only became worth playing when Knights of the Nine came around. And of course the Dark Brotherhood quest line was fun too. Shivering Isles added some new and good content too I just hope that Skyrim doesn't do the same thing where you have to wait for an expansion to make the game good.

@Mageman: If you hated Bethesda's other games don't bother with Skyrim. It's about getting immersed in a world and experiencing every little detail you can.

If you didn't like Oblivion but like Fallout 3 or didn't like Fallout 3 but liked Oblivion I would tell you to give the game a chance but it doesn't seem like you would be interested in this game at all. Funny thing was that I was asking why Skyrim was so hyped also but I saw this -

And am now totally hyped up for the game.

Because people like them.  See - opinion.

Worst topic I have seen this week so far.

There's definitely more RPG than Action in Bethesda's Action-RPG... The combat and other gameplay systems have never been great. What appeals to me is the vastness of it, the choices, the exploration and the lore.

@Mageman said:

and the previous Bethesda games such as Oblivion and Fallout 3 were pretty bad.

It just so happens some people liked those games and want more of it. It is a difficult concept to understand.

Because different people have different opinions on things.

I haven't seen the medieval Nordic style applied in a lot of modern RPGs so it looks unique to me. different strokes I guess.

Also, would you care to elaborate why Fallout 3 and Oblivion are bad games? Don't get me wrong, I don't find them perfect. I liked them despite their numerous issues.

@tekmojo said:

The chance for another Morrowind.

It lacks the setting however if the exploration and immersion would be on that level I would be quite surprised.

@emergency said:

Awesome snowy mountains and villages = Boring / Bland?

Oblivion & Fallout 3 were great at their time of release. It doesn't seem like its your type of game at all... Console version won't support mods.

Uhhh....yeah, that's the blandest and most boring setting you could put in a game. You have seen it everywhere before. And yes the console version will support mods. I like exploring and open world, but Oblivion and Fallout 3 were not good at their profession of immersing the player or giving him a good lore/story.

Fallout 3 had very bad writing and shat all over the Fallout series in a negative way (however New Vegas is a great instalment and one of the few good modern RPGs ). Oblivion was just bland.

Guys, why do people like the thing that I don't like?

It must be because they don't have the massive genius brain that I do.

If you don't get why people are excited for this then you shouldn't play it. Also, Oblivion and Fallout are great games. Yeah they're buggy as hell and sometimes frustrating but they are a great experience non the less.

@Mageman: mods will not happen on the 360 at least with the frequency and weirdness that they will on PC.

@wolf_blitzer85 said:

@Adamsons said:

Because people like them. See - opinion.

This is the internet friend. We don't take too kindly to these "opinions".

I mainly want to know the reason behind those opinions. It's not a hard to grasp concept.

This is a terrible discussion.

Because it's the antidote to all the recent big budget corridor shooters where you turn the handle on the machine gun to make the movie go. This will be a huge, mechanically deep RPG where the world and AI are built in such a way that hopefully you'll find yourself telling your own stories.

Sound like a personal problem, not a reflection on the game in any way. Those games are some of the most highly regarded games in history, all of them won many awards and sold extremely well.

And yes the console version will support mods.

So...really early on in that video they claim you can play in Third Person View - while this was technically possible in past games, it was complete garbage - any solid info on this yet? Can I actually play the whole game in Third Person if I want? 
 
And yes, this is a serious question - I do not care for First Person view in games.

Why are people hyped for any game?

@Mageman said:

@tekmojo said:

The chance for another Morrowind.

It lacks the setting however if the exploration and immersion would be on that level I would be quite surprised.

I wasn't the biggest fan of Oblivion, one of the biggest problems was the setting. But that's something that's definitely been fixed with Skyrim, the frozen wilderness and mountains seem a lot more interesting, and like Morrowind, it's a much more isolated environment.

@StLucifer said:

Dragons

I like open world games, what's so hard to understand about that?

@WinterSnowblind said:

@Mageman said:

@tekmojo said:

The chance for another Morrowind.

It lacks the setting however if the exploration and immersion would be on that level I would be quite surprised.

I wasn't the biggest fan of Oblivion, one of the biggest problems was the setting. But that's something that's definitely been fixed with Skyrim, the frozen wilderness and mountains seem a lot more interesting, and like Morrowind, it's a much more isolated environment.

Yeah but Morrowind was a lot more exotic, with weird creatures and people living in huge mushrooms. We have all seen seen snow and dragons before. The gamebryo engine was also horrible, and so was the dialogue and the fact that the enemies scaled with you (don't know if it will be the same in Skyrim, I hope not)

Anyway I seem to have been misinformed about the consoles supporting mods for sure, however Bethesda wants it.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109378-Bethesda-Wants-Skyrim-Mods-on-Consoles

edit again : So It seems that the playstation magazine confirmed it, I hope I'm not misinformed again.

@wolf_blitzer85 said:

@Adamsons said:

Because people like them. See - opinion.

This is the internet friend. We don't take too kindly to these "opinions".

I mainly want to know the reason behind those opinions. It's not a hard to grasp concept.

@ArbitraryWater said:

Because its the next Bethesda game, and people really like Bethesda games? I do. That's why I am hyped. Also, you are bland and boring and not all that creative.

Pretty much this. I suggest you take your hate for Bethesda elsewhere boy.

@Mageman said:

@wolf_blitzer85 said:

@Adamsons said:

Because people like them. See - opinion.

This is the internet friend. We don't take too kindly to these "opinions".

I mainly want to know the reason behind those opinions. It's not a hard to grasp concept.

why do you care though. if you don't like the look of it just don't buy it.

So...really early on in that video they claim you can play in Third Person View - while this was technically possible in past games, it was complete garbage - any solid info on this yet? Can I actually play the whole game in Third Person if I want?   And yes, this is a serious question - I do not care for First Person view in games.

Those of us with an imagination find a game that gives us a huge open world to do whatever we want in very appealing, and no other game in the market has done it so well as Bethesda so far (at least as far as I know). Also:

Dragons.

I don't think this is your kind of game.

So...really early on in that video they claim you can play in Third Person View - while this was technically possible in past games, it was complete garbage - any solid info on this yet? Can I actually play the whole game in Third Person if I want?   And yes, this is a serious question - I do not care for First Person view in games.

@FreakAche said:

@Mageman said:

...and the previous Bethesda games such as Oblivion and Fallout 3 were pretty bad.

What?

lol

@Mageman said:

I don't understand the hype surrounding this game. It doesn't look very exciting, the land they picked for this new TES adventure looks boring and bland and not at all that creative, and the previous Bethesda games such as Oblivion and Fallout 3 were pretty bad.

Well, obviously, since both those games were shit, people are looking forward to this one to see just how shit it is. Duh. It's ironic hype. Everyone knows this.

@doobie said:

@Mageman said:

@wolf_blitzer85 said:

@Adamsons said:

Because people like them. See - opinion.

This is the internet friend. We don't take too kindly to these "opinions".

I mainly want to know the reason behind those opinions. It's not a hard to grasp concept.

why do you care though. if you don't like the look of it just don't buy it.

Because I'm registered on a videogame forum where members converse about their interests in video games ?

@wolf_blitzer85 said:

@Adamsons said:

Because people like them. See - opinion.

This is the internet friend. We don't take too kindly to these "opinions".

I mainly want to know the reason behind those opinions. It's not a hard to grasp concept.

@wolf_blitzer85 said:

@Mageman said:

@wolf_blitzer85 said:

@Adamsons said:

Because people like them. See - opinion.

This is the internet friend. We don't take too kindly to these "opinions".

I mainly want to know the reason behind those opinions. It's not a hard to grasp concept.

For me the gameplay focuses on exploring. You can be in the middle of a quest, only to happen upon some random dungeon. You ditch the quest to see what's in there. There might be cool loot, there might not be, but the cool thing is the game gives you the option to do so. Like most people have been saying, I'm getting tired of the guided experiences that games have become. Elder Scrolls and Fallout games just dump you into the world (after the intro sequence of course) and let you have at it. You can choose to play the game straight through and beat it in 20 hours or explore every nook and cranny 200 hours in and still be nowhere near done with the game. That level of freedom really appeals to me.

In fairness, Oblivion utterly lacked any kind of exploration or randomness like this. Everything was very pre-set and any sense of freedom was completely superficial.

Fallout 3 and New Vegas went someways to fixing that, but hopefully Skyrim really goes back to the Morrowind feel. Being able to turn off the compass should help a lot.

@Mageman said:

@doobie said:

@Mageman said:

@wolf_blitzer85 said:

@Adamsons said:

Because people like them. See - opinion.

This is the internet friend. We don't take too kindly to these "opinions".

I mainly want to know the reason behind those opinions. It's not a hard to grasp concept.

why do you care though. if you don't like the look of it just don't buy it.

Because I'm registered on a videogame forum where members converse about their interests in video games ?

are you really, which one ?