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Dragon's Crown Casts a Spell on PS3 and Vita Next Week

There's nothing sexy about the kinds of back problems this sorceress will undoubtedly suffer from later in life.

Jul. 31 2013

Posted by: Alex

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@thornie said:

Her boobs look like a butt, her chest looks like a back, and her armpit looks like a boob. You see, it's her head that's backwards and maybe a little too big.

Ahhhh! can't unsee it

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@mnzy said:

@icantbestopped said:

Perhaps we could ask women with similarly sized breasts if their backs hurt?

I don't think a human being would be able to live with a frame like that.

I was hoping someone would bite. First of all, I'm just going to list off a few names. You can look them up if you want, or bypass them completely. Some of these ladies are in the adult industry, so if you live with your folks and have to keep an eye over your shoulder, be warned.

Dani Ashe

Sara Stone

Natasha Nice

Jamine Black

I have more if you want them. These cases in point have 100% natural boobs, and the ladies themselves are not fat. Now, for the physics. I feel I need only post this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVnjlQP2oy0

A few things to keep in mind:

a) The cases above are bigger than the woman shown here (though this one's size is very respectable).

b) This is happening with her just walking, she's not fighting, jumping around, or violently swinging a wand to cast spells or hit enemies.

c) This is what's happening with her when she has support.

So in that same video, what if they were even bigger, she were running or doing something with great exertion, and she wasn't wearing a bra? The results would be extremely bouncy. Don't get me wrong, I've seen the DC Sorceress' idle animation, and she gets jiggle simply from standing and breathing, so the physics are exaggerated, but I feel with this shown, maybe not by as much as we'd like to think.

With all this out of the way, when it comes to boobs, I feel we cannot say "Oh those are so unrealistic, no woman has those!". If you want to say "Hey, I hate it when video games depict the ultimately attractive female with extremely large breasts, other women not well endowed must look at it and feel inadequate because they know men long for such a thing they'll never be able to attain by themselves", then that's a separate issue entirely.

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I appreciate that the art style is an animated try at the kind of work Julie Bell and Boris Vallejo did for pulp fantasy.

Mainly interested because its a brawler and looks to be a rather large one.

Vanillaware quite often surprises with their game systems as well, so I'll definitely be trying this one. The sword-break mechanic in Muramasa, the in-battle agriculture mechanic of Odin Sphere, and just plain doing a 2d RTS in GrimGrimoire are all things that I want to recommend to everyone getting into RPGs.

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Man, the character designs in this game are borderline nasty and enough to turn me off from playing it. In fact, I'd feel embarrassed to play this game in front of anyone. Having said that,the gameplay does look good, though. The developers should have had enough confidence in the mechanics to sell it, rather than resort to extreme sex anatomy. It only cheapens the final product and makes everything feel goofy and stupid.

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I'm not sure what's more unappealing, the art style or the fact that someone is trying to sell a $50 beat 'em up.

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@mnzy said:

@icantbestopped said:

Perhaps we could ask women with similarly sized breasts if their backs hurt?

I don't think a human being would be able to live with a frame like that.

I was hoping someone would bite. First of all, I'm just going to list off a few names. You can look them up if you want, or bypass them completely. Some of these ladies are in the adult industry, so if you live with your folks and have to keep an eye over your shoulder, be warned.

Dani Ashe

Sara Stone

Natasha Nice

Jamine Black

I have more if you want them. These cases in point have 100% natural boobs, and the ladies themselves are not fat. Now, for the physics. I feel I need only post this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVnjlQP2oy0

A few things to keep in mind:

a) The cases above are bigger than the woman shown here (though this one's size is very respectable).

b) This is happening with her just walking, she's not fighting, jumping around, or violently swinging a wand to cast spells or hit enemies.

c) This is what's happening with her when she has support.

So in that same video, what if they were even bigger, she were running or doing something with great exertion, and she wasn't wearing a bra? The results would be extremely bouncy. Don't get me wrong, I've seen the DC Sorceress' idle animation, and she gets jiggle simply from standing and breathing, so the physics are exaggerated, but I feel with this shown, maybe not by as much as we'd like to think.

With all this out of the way, when it comes to boobs, I feel we cannot say "Oh those are so unrealistic, no woman has those!". If you want to say "Hey, I hate it when video games depict the ultimately attractive female with extremely large breasts, other women not well endowed must look at it and feel inadequate because they know men long for such a thing they'll never be able to attain by themselves", then that's a separate issue entirely.

And here I thought Russ Meyer was dead.

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Dear SJW: Please take your tumblr bullshit somewhere else. It's a video game with its own art style. Don't like it? Don't care.

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I'm not sure what's more unappealing, the art style or the fact that someone is trying to sell a $50 beat 'em up.

I don't understand this. Why demonize the brawler genre, and how do you qualify that the game isn't worth its selling price?

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This is the part where I say that i've seen many, many occasions of male characters in games with fucking insane abs and open shirts (for instance most fighting game characters), and i'm fine with it because that's the art style they chose and whatever I care more about the actual game.

Then this is the part where somebody says that's power fantasy, not sexual objectification.

Then I get confused by how vastly exaggerating traditionally male body structure is any different from vastly exaggerating female body structure.

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@icantbestopped said:

@mnzy said:

@icantbestopped said:

Perhaps we could ask women with similarly sized breasts if their backs hurt?

I don't think a human being would be able to live with a frame like that.

I was hoping someone would bite. First of all, I'm just going to list off a few names. You can look them up if you want, or bypass them completely. Some of these ladies are in the adult industry, so if you live with your folks and have to keep an eye over your shoulder, be warned.

Dani Ashe

Sara Stone

Natasha Nice

Jamine Black

I have more if you want them. These cases in point have 100% natural boobs, and the ladies themselves are not fat. Now, for the physics. I feel I need only post this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVnjlQP2oy0

A few things to keep in mind:

a) The cases above are bigger than the woman shown here (though this one's size is very respectable).

b) This is happening with her just walking, she's not fighting, jumping around, or violently swinging a wand to cast spells or hit enemies.

c) This is what's happening with her when she has support.

So in that same video, what if they were even bigger, she were running or doing something with great exertion, and she wasn't wearing a bra? The results would be extremely bouncy. Don't get me wrong, I've seen the DC Sorceress' idle animation, and she gets jiggle simply from standing and breathing, so the physics are exaggerated, but I feel with this shown, maybe not by as much as we'd like to think.

With all this out of the way, when it comes to boobs, I feel we cannot say "Oh those are so unrealistic, no woman has those!". If you want to say "Hey, I hate it when video games depict the ultimately attractive female with extremely large breasts, other women not well endowed must look at it and feel inadequate because they know men long for such a thing they'll never be able to attain by themselves", then that's a separate issue entirely.

It's not about the boobs alone, look at her waist, too. That's why I said "frame", that ratio is not humanly possible.

None of your examples come even close to the sorceress in the game. Please put them next to eachother and you'll see.

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Can't wait for some awesome co-op. Haters gonna hate.

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Also, this is the same art as in Odin Sphere on the PS2 and I thought that game looked amazing. And you know what ? I have no problem with great looking games !

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@mnzy said:

@icantbestopped said:

@mnzy said:

@icantbestopped said:

Perhaps we could ask women with similarly sized breasts if their backs hurt?

I don't think a human being would be able to live with a frame like that.

I was hoping someone would bite. First of all, I'm just going to list off a few names. You can look them up if you want, or bypass them completely. Some of these ladies are in the adult industry, so if you live with your folks and have to keep an eye over your shoulder, be warned.

Dani Ashe

Sara Stone

Natasha Nice

Jamine Black

I have more if you want them. These cases in point have 100% natural boobs, and the ladies themselves are not fat. Now, for the physics. I feel I need only post this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVnjlQP2oy0

A few things to keep in mind:

a) The cases above are bigger than the woman shown here (though this one's size is very respectable).

b) This is happening with her just walking, she's not fighting, jumping around, or violently swinging a wand to cast spells or hit enemies.

c) This is what's happening with her when she has support.

So in that same video, what if they were even bigger, she were running or doing something with great exertion, and she wasn't wearing a bra? The results would be extremely bouncy. Don't get me wrong, I've seen the DC Sorceress' idle animation, and she gets jiggle simply from standing and breathing, so the physics are exaggerated, but I feel with this shown, maybe not by as much as we'd like to think.

With all this out of the way, when it comes to boobs, I feel we cannot say "Oh those are so unrealistic, no woman has those!". If you want to say "Hey, I hate it when video games depict the ultimately attractive female with extremely large breasts, other women not well endowed must look at it and feel inadequate because they know men long for such a thing they'll never be able to attain by themselves", then that's a separate issue entirely.

It's not about the boobs alone, look at her waist, too. That's why I said "frame", that ratio is not humanly possible.

None of your examples come even close to the sorceress in the game. Please put them next to eachother and you'll see.

Not saying this to further the argument, but even taking into consideration the fact that the art style is exaggerated, there are some women that are closer than the ones listed above to the sorceress' frame. They are rare, but they exist (ex: Ewa Sonnet).

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@neckbear said:

Some people don't seem to understand that the art is intentionally ridiculous and over the top.

Are you telling me that the Fighter and Dwarf characters aren't normally proportioned either?! Those dudes look pretty normal to me!

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all this mad

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I like boobs. Puritans can eff off.

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I continue to not be able to tell whether this game looks cool or not.

I keep waiting for an announcement to come out saying "Surprise! We sure fooled you guys with the fake, insane-looking versions of those characters we put in all the trailers to drum up publicity! Now here are the real sprites that don't look like Rob Liefeld drew them."

Any day now.

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That box art actually kind of pisses me off, grow the fuck up Japan.

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I continue to not be able to tell whether this game looks cool or not.

I keep waiting for an announcement to come out saying "Surprise! We sure fooled you guys with the fake, insane-looking versions of those characters we put in all the trailers to drum up publicity! Now here are the real sprites that don't look like Rob Liefeld drew them."

Any day now.

Oh come on now, there's no Youngbloods disease here.

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Bosoms. ♥

Also I am mega hyped for this game because Odin Sphere and Muramasa were awesome.

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I kind of liked the artwork. I really do not understand those boobs. They look sexy for a nanosecond, then they come off as a physical deformity. I'm not even talking about real sexism and such, those would demand a lot of trips to the doctor.. They look like they would always hurt and cause all sorts of problems. Half the size would be large.

But the rest wasn't bad, not that I would play this game.

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Disgusting and unnatural.

Really hate sexed up female characters.

Looks like a great game, but it's hard to ignore those flying around whenever she moves.

Game is made for horny teenagers or something, it's pathetic.

I think it's disgusting and unspeakable that this company thought it was "okay" to steal the brain of a thirteen year old boy and transplant it into an adult human body, and then allow it to direct the creative development of a game. Infuriating, and such a deplorable waste of everyone involved in this hideous thing.

All this whiteknighting. Don't worry, you'll have girls breaking down your door any day now.

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@missacre said:

All this whiteknighting. Don't worry, you'll have girls breaking down your door any day now.

Lol.

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@missacre said:

@retardedfishy said:

Disgusting and unnatural.

Really hate sexed up female characters.

Looks like a great game, but it's hard to ignore those flying around whenever she moves.

Game is made for horny teenagers or something, it's pathetic.

@fartgod666 said:

I think it's disgusting and unspeakable that this company thought it was "okay" to steal the brain of a thirteen year old boy and transplant it into an adult human body, and then allow it to direct the creative development of a game. Infuriating, and such a deplorable waste of everyone involved in this hideous thing.

All this whiteknighting. Don't worry, you'll have girls breaking down your door any day now.

Huh, it has nothing to do with chivalry, i like big tits as much as the next guy, but come on... those things are fucking ridiculous, what dose that add to the game?

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@neckbear said:

Some people don't seem to understand that the art is intentionally ridiculous and over the top.

Are you telling me that the Fighter and Dwarf characters aren't normally proportioned either?! Those dudes look pretty normal to me!

Naming my Dwarf, "Million Abs"

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@sanity said:

@missacre said:

@retardedfishy said:

Disgusting and unnatural.

Really hate sexed up female characters.

Looks like a great game, but it's hard to ignore those flying around whenever she moves.

Game is made for horny teenagers or something, it's pathetic.

@fartgod666 said:

I think it's disgusting and unspeakable that this company thought it was "okay" to steal the brain of a thirteen year old boy and transplant it into an adult human body, and then allow it to direct the creative development of a game. Infuriating, and such a deplorable waste of everyone involved in this hideous thing.

All this whiteknighting. Don't worry, you'll have girls breaking down your door any day now.

Huh, it has nothing to do with chivalry, i like big tits as much as the next guy, but come on... those things are fucking ridiculous, what dose that add to the game?

It's an artstyle, nothing more, nothing less. It's like complaining about the dudes in Gears of War. They're big and bulky with arms the size of tree trunks, but it's an artstyle. If they had only said something about the artstyle, then that would've been fine, but no, they had to add the "teenage boy mentality" thing to it, as if they're any better than that.

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@lordofultima: You're right. I was generalizing a bit. I think this game seems okay. I think charging $50 for a side scrolling beat 'em up seems like they're either incredibly optimistic or they are sending this game to die. I hope this game is amazing but judging from the track record of most beat 'em ups they are not worth that grand of a price tag.

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@missacre said:

@sanity said:

@missacre said:

@retardedfishy said:

Disgusting and unnatural.

Really hate sexed up female characters.

Looks like a great game, but it's hard to ignore those flying around whenever she moves.

Game is made for horny teenagers or something, it's pathetic.

@fartgod666 said:

I think it's disgusting and unspeakable that this company thought it was "okay" to steal the brain of a thirteen year old boy and transplant it into an adult human body, and then allow it to direct the creative development of a game. Infuriating, and such a deplorable waste of everyone involved in this hideous thing.

All this whiteknighting. Don't worry, you'll have girls breaking down your door any day now.

Huh, it has nothing to do with chivalry, i like big tits as much as the next guy, but come on... those things are fucking ridiculous, what dose that add to the game?

It's an artstyle, nothing more, nothing less. It's like complaining about the dudes in Gears of War. They're big and bulky with arms the size of tree trunks, but it's an artstyle. If they had only said something about the artstyle, then that would've been fine, but no, they had to add the "teenage boy mentality" thing to it, as if they're any better than that.

I suppose thats one way to look at it, i'v just never cared much for it personally, same with MMO's where the guys are wearing heavy steel and the women all wear lingerie looking stuff. Its not that i have a issue with the style, its that the style usually doesn't fit the rest of the game.

The meat heads in Gears of War seem appropriate to me, same with the huge boobs and tiny bathing suits in DOA (the volleyball games, not the fighters), but for a game that has combat i think its off putting and takes you out of the experience to have half naked characters.

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There is a huge difference between the sexualization and the objectification of women. In many cases, they can be related, but they are not the same thing. Often, the objectification isn't a malicious intention of the artist or creator - it's a reflex to a larger societal problem of extremes. I certainly wouldn't believe that the artist's intent was malicious here, even though I personally think it's rather gross and pervy.

But hey, I'm not a female, and I don't care enough to get actual insight about the game, so I'll just say "no thanks".

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Anyone else notice that the sorceress isn't the only character in the game? While some of the character design doesn't appeal to me personally, the general art in this game looks good, as has the other vanillaware games. Odin Sphere was a good game, and while I haven't played it, I've heard good things about Muramasa, so I trust that this will be a good game as well.

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Disgusting and unnatural.

Really hate sexed up female characters.

Looks like a great game, but it's hard to ignore those flying around whenever she moves.

Game is made for horny teenagers or something, it's pathetic.

There's nothing unnatural about it, except perhaps the exaggerated physics.

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@mnzy said:

@icantbestopped said:

@mnzy said:

@icantbestopped said:

Perhaps we could ask women with similarly sized breasts if their backs hurt?

I don't think a human being would be able to live with a frame like that.

I was hoping someone would bite. First of all, I'm just going to list off a few names. You can look them up if you want, or bypass them completely. Some of these ladies are in the adult industry, so if you live with your folks and have to keep an eye over your shoulder, be warned.

Dani Ashe

Sara Stone

Natasha Nice

Jamine Black

I have more if you want them. These cases in point have 100% natural boobs, and the ladies themselves are not fat. Now, for the physics. I feel I need only post this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVnjlQP2oy0

A few things to keep in mind:

a) The cases above are bigger than the woman shown here (though this one's size is very respectable).

b) This is happening with her just walking, she's not fighting, jumping around, or violently swinging a wand to cast spells or hit enemies.

c) This is what's happening with her when she has support.

So in that same video, what if they were even bigger, she were running or doing something with great exertion, and she wasn't wearing a bra? The results would be extremely bouncy. Don't get me wrong, I've seen the DC Sorceress' idle animation, and she gets jiggle simply from standing and breathing, so the physics are exaggerated, but I feel with this shown, maybe not by as much as we'd like to think.

With all this out of the way, when it comes to boobs, I feel we cannot say "Oh those are so unrealistic, no woman has those!". If you want to say "Hey, I hate it when video games depict the ultimately attractive female with extremely large breasts, other women not well endowed must look at it and feel inadequate because they know men long for such a thing they'll never be able to attain by themselves", then that's a separate issue entirely.

It's not about the boobs alone, look at her waist, too. That's why I said "frame", that ratio is not humanly possible.

None of your examples come even close to the sorceress in the game. Please put them next to eachother and you'll see.

Jasmine Black and Natasha Nice, and that other guy's listed example all have small waists. It's not inconceivable.

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Not white knighting, I just find it unnecessary. How 'bout dis: I don't like this art style because it may be art with a style, but no class.


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I'm a big fan of sexy animated female, but I can't stand looking at the big ass&titties here

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@aegon said:

@mnzy said:

@icantbestopped said:

@mnzy said:

@icantbestopped said:

Perhaps we could ask women with similarly sized breasts if their backs hurt?

I don't think a human being would be able to live with a frame like that.

I was hoping someone would bite. First of all, I'm just going to list off a few names. You can look them up if you want, or bypass them completely. Some of these ladies are in the adult industry, so if you live with your folks and have to keep an eye over your shoulder, be warned.

Dani Ashe

Sara Stone

Natasha Nice

Jamine Black

I have more if you want them. These cases in point have 100% natural boobs, and the ladies themselves are not fat. Now, for the physics. I feel I need only post this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVnjlQP2oy0

A few things to keep in mind:

a) The cases above are bigger than the woman shown here (though this one's size is very respectable).

b) This is happening with her just walking, she's not fighting, jumping around, or violently swinging a wand to cast spells or hit enemies.

c) This is what's happening with her when she has support.

So in that same video, what if they were even bigger, she were running or doing something with great exertion, and she wasn't wearing a bra? The results would be extremely bouncy. Don't get me wrong, I've seen the DC Sorceress' idle animation, and she gets jiggle simply from standing and breathing, so the physics are exaggerated, but I feel with this shown, maybe not by as much as we'd like to think.

With all this out of the way, when it comes to boobs, I feel we cannot say "Oh those are so unrealistic, no woman has those!". If you want to say "Hey, I hate it when video games depict the ultimately attractive female with extremely large breasts, other women not well endowed must look at it and feel inadequate because they know men long for such a thing they'll never be able to attain by themselves", then that's a separate issue entirely.

It's not about the boobs alone, look at her waist, too. That's why I said "frame", that ratio is not humanly possible.

None of your examples come even close to the sorceress in the game. Please put them next to eachother and you'll see.

Not saying this to further the argument, but even taking into consideration the fact that the art style is exaggerated, there are some women that are closer than the ones listed above to the sorceress' frame. They are rare, but they exist (ex: Ewa Sonnet).

I am appreciating this fount of boob knowledge right now.

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@icantbestopped said:

@mnzy said:

@icantbestopped said:

Perhaps we could ask women with similarly sized breasts if their backs hurt?

I don't think a human being would be able to live with a frame like that.

blah blah blah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVnjlQP2oy0

blah blah blah

Sorry mate, but the boob-to-head ratio is not even remotely close. Kate Upton has a bigger head than her boob, no "skinny" woman with naturals can has. You fail.

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@chose said:

@icantbestopped said:

@mnzy said:

@icantbestopped said:

Perhaps we could ask women with similarly sized breasts if their backs hurt?

I don't think a human being would be able to live with a frame like that.

blah blah blah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVnjlQP2oy0

blah blah blah

Sorry mate, but the boob-to-head ratio is not even remotely close. Kate Upton has a bigger head than her boob, no "skinny" woman with naturals can has. You fail.

I take it you didn't read. That's okay. Kate Upton was used as an example of the physics of a naturally well endowed woman in motion, not as an analogue to sorceress' breast size. In fact, I think I specifically mentioned she wasn't as big as the other examples listed. Nice meme, by the way.

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Bullshit aside... Her boobs look awful! They are kinda thin and too long. I blame the lame art style.

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Vanillaware needs to start releasing games on PC god dammit.

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@icantbestopped: I applaud you for your efforts in attempting to counter factually what appears to me as empty criticism, but I kinda feel like trying to find real-world examples of women that come close to the extreme dimensions of imaginary, heavily stylized and super-exaggerated necro-witch ladies unintentionally helps to legitimize what pretty much amounts to a red-herring, plain and simple.

Why are people so concerned when a cartoon art style (which very clearly makes no attempt at depicting honest-to-goodness realism) doesn't line up with reality? Why does it have to? Why is it a bad or undesirable thing if it doesn't?

I fully agree there can be good reasons/matters of personal preference for not liking the art-style based on social attitudes towards sex, objectification, and what-have-you (which everyone is entitled to), but the whole "unrealistic" thing (as if that is some sort of measure of worth or quality when it comes to videogames and their art-styles or just art in general), just misses the forest for the trees.

The game isn't going for hard-realism or naturalism. To judge it based on what it's NOT would be like judging a surrealist-era Picasso by the standards of Classical Greek.

The people who are out of their depth playing Internet Psychologist/Diagnosis, implying and assigning some negative character trait to people who find the sum totality of this particular art-style or game (see: everything else but just the tits and ass that make up a small percentage of all, ahem, "assets") need to quickly get over themselves and the amount of stock they put into their "powers" of divination.

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Breast Shaming at its finest. No wonder Giantbomb suffers from gender deficiency.

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Some people are grossed out by the art style. That's their opinion. Why does it piss you off so much? If you really want the game, vote with your wallet and buy it. If you don't, then don't. I don't understand why everyone has a problem with people having their own opinions and expressing them.

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So this is basically Dungeon Fighter?

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@chose said:

@icantbestopped said:

@mnzy said:

@icantbestopped said:

Perhaps we could ask women with similarly sized breasts if their backs hurt?

I don't think a human being would be able to live with a frame like that.

blah blah blah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVnjlQP2oy0

blah blah blah

Sorry mate, but the boob-to-head ratio is not even remotely close. Kate Upton has a bigger head than her boob, no "skinny" woman with naturals can has. You fail.

Look up some Hitomi Tanaka videos and get back to me.

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@andorski: i know right , the best we can manage is playing super high res muramasa in a wii emulator

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Why does all commentary on this game have to be about sexism instead of the actual gameplay?

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@arch4non said:

Why does all commentary on this game have to be about sexism instead of the actual gameplay?

Because hating making women sexy is progressive and stuff.