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GDC 2013: After Hours Livestream Spectacular - Part 02

It's the last night of GDC and things get stupid. But then they get real. Then they get stupid again.

Mar. 29 2013

Cast: Ryan

Posted by: Drew

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Man fuck comments.... Man Ryan was such a great host and just dude who could kind of "quarterback" things, only met him once but man I miss that guy.

"as he makes a comment"

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@tebbit: Also, didn't Phil Fish immediately apologize to the guy whom he said it to? I could've sworn I read it somewhere.

He did indeed. Multiple sources confirmed that happening in their write-ups, although that's conveniently dropped out of a lot of the rhetoric against him.

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@tebbit: Also, didn't Phil Fish immediately apologize to the guy whom he said it to? I could've sworn I read it somewhere.

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Phil Fish is awesome. Really good on this. Everyone was!

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@mrnood1e: Isn't he also working on his music as well? That's why he moved to the Atlanta in the first place if I can recall.

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Oh god, this is SO greattt!

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Danny B is great, but cmon man. Cave Story 3D? You don't touch that music, anyone who tries to redo it doesn't make it as good as the og.

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Phil Fish wearing his Jawbone Up I see

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Ryan "Cake Ass" Davis

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Giant Bomb needs to hire Robert Ashley and have him work on A Life Well Wasted full-time!

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THis thumbnail is awesome

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@zipperface said:

I don't get the Phil Fish hate, just people being snobs I guess. He was rather refreshing.

lol you've heard the shit out of this guy's mouth, right?

Yeah it's hilarious and awesome.

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@arjybarjy: You're very welcome. I have no idea what to do with the domain now though. I also bought theinterviewdumptruck.com. I'm thinking if I can establish some pornographic fetish genre involving dump-trucks and interviews I might be able to sell it and recoup my fifteen-or-so dollars.

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Love the largest man/tiniest man in the world duo on the same couch :)

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This video needs more Brodeo

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@firecracker22 said:

@prestonhedges said:

@thegorilla said:

@prestonhedges said:

@siroptimusprime said:

@nadril said:

So why don't people like Phil Fish? I must have missed some sort of internet outrage or something, because he seemed like a pretty cool and interesting dude.

Because he said Japanese game design/business is stagnating (which it is) and people the internet heard racism.

You can't generalize about an entire race of people and say, "That's not racist." That's literally the definition of racism. He is a racist. End of story.

lol, he didn't generalize "about an entire race of people." He said he didn't like the kind of game design that is prevalent in Japan. Nothing wrong with that. It's okay to not like a style common to one area. It's okay to not like the common design philosophies in eastern European games for instance, or to not like Italian architecture.

Also, that is not the definition of racism. Racism is believing one race is superior to another or hating a particular race. What Phil said was more of a stereotype. There is a serious difference.

He said Japanese video games suck. How is that not generalizing about an entire race of people? It's almost exactly like saying all video games made by black people suck. It's racist. He is a racist. There is no arguing the point.

He said Japanese videogames suck?

That's not "enough" to call him racist.

I've heard people say they don't like 'Mexican food', or that they think 'Indian food' is horrible. That doesn't make them racist, either.

Saying "black videogames suck" would be a different matter. There isn't a country called "Black", with whole industries exporting products to other parts of the world.

WORD. It wasn't a racial statement at all. Japanese video games should be inferred to mean "video games produced in the country of Japan", not "video games produced by Japanese people", I know there is a massive overlap between those two statements, but the attack is not on the people, but the common concepts and ideas that those people apply to video game design.

If you want to split hairs like this, it's racist that America had 43 white Presidents. It's racist that Obama was the first black President. It's racist that we refer to Europeans as Europeans despite the fact that Europe is an extremely diverse region of many different peoples.

But that's never what people mean. Because people don't care about race. If you do, you are the racist.

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@osaladin said:

Can Jeff and Carrie just get together already? They'd make a great couple.

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All I can see is how close Paul is sitting to Olly. Also I enjoy Fish that is all.

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Can Jeff and Carrie just get together already? They'd make a great couple.

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wtf... I was streaming from youtube on 240p and it was chopping and buffering and pausing and then i put it on 720p to read the sign and it didn't buffer once after that....

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I fucking LOVE A Life Well Wasted.

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Eh. I can't say I agree with Carrie when she says that everyone should just "get over it". It's not as simple as that.

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freakin Olly Moss and Phil Fish. Awesome.

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awesome stream guys, this is probably the best after hours show you have ever done, everyone on on it was genuinely great to listen to. It was a probably the best combination of interesting, informative, stupid and ridiculous I have ever seen in anything, and it just distilled everything I like about this website perfectly, loved the audio/music talk in the middle too, nothing but good vibes for me.

Dis.

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awesome stream guys, this is probably the best after hours show you have ever done, everyone on on it was genuinely great to listen to. It was a probably the best combination of interesting, informative, stupid and ridiculous I have ever seen in anything, and it just distilled everything I like about this website perfectly, loved the audio/music talk in the middle too, nothing but good vibes for me.

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Lol nice ending.

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@klager said:

@hollitz said:

Paul Barnett, I love you.

Also, Phil Fish is turning into such a hipster. Drinking out of a flask, come on man, no one that's out of high school thinks that's cool.

He should have brought the bottle, and a tumbler.

Nobody out of high school even cares what you drink your fucking booze out of.

To top that off, a number of people in my parent's range of peers drink from flasks regularly. It seemed odd to see phil doing it, but not too much.

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@darkest4 said:
@jakkblades said:

I know that there's a lot of Phil Fish hate on the internet. Am I the only one who thinks he's the designer with the most potential in our time?

Nah, some guy named Phil Fish thinks the same thing :P

I wouldn't be against hearing counter-arguments from someone who's played Fez.

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@robo said:

Phil Fish is ok in my book. Interesting guy.

Also Fez was awesome. Easily one of my favorite games of all time, even with the dumb final puzzle thing.

Yeah, when you actually get to hear him speak in more than soundbytes and out-of-context quotes, he actually comes across like a reasonable human being!

It's amazing how that happens!

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Phil Fish was awesome I hope he gets involved in more giant bomb stuff. Maybe at E3 or pax prime. Also I loved seeing Carrie again i wish she was still doing game journalism and could join the giant bomb crew it would be amazing.

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Phil Fish is ok in my book. Interesting guy.

Also Fez was awesome. Easily one of my favorite games of all time, even with the dumb final puzzle thing.

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I enjoy listening to Phil Fish talk. I like that dude.

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I know that there's a lot of Phil Fish hate on the internet. Am I the only one who thinks he's the designer with the most potential in our time?

Nah, some guy named Phil Fish thinks the same thing :P

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Paul Barnett: game desinger, indian-style-sitter.

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I know that there's a lot of Phil Fish hate on the internet. Am I the only one who thinks he's the designer with the most potential in our time?

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I believe Ryan's cake story is one of the greatest stories I've heard in a very long while!

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Is it just me or does Phil Fish look like Swery in that thumbnail?

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@patman99 said:

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Edit: Phil Fish is such a tremendous Canadian asshole that it makes me proud to also be a Canadian asshole.

I think most people that hate him don't have Canadian friends?

Yeah, I think that there is a cultural disconnect between many Europeans and Americans when it comes to the French Canadian stuff. Phil Fish isn't more of an asshole than any Quebecer I have ever met. In fact, he is probably one of the more tame. Not saying Quebecers are assholes, but they have slightly looser lips when it comes to speaking their mind.

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@patman99 said:

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Edit: Phil Fish is such a tremendous Canadian asshole that it makes me proud to also be a Canadian asshole.

I think most people that hate him don't have Canadian friends?

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God damn it's good to hear Phil just talking to some other developers with a couple of beers in him. Let's me get a better picture of who he is than the defensive, kind of angry shit that we kept hearing before.

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In some States you can get arrested for gesturing like the "Mark of the Ninja" Guy. I'm Serious!!!

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People still hate Phil Fish just for making a 100% true comment about Japanese games???

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I'd like to listen to a Fez post-mordem with Fish. If you guys can get him for a formal interview, that'd be incredible.

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Was good to see Robert Ashley again.

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Oh god, Phil Fish. That guy is a hypocritical douche. He makes his own face look so punchable.

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Does Paul Barnett do a podcast or something? I only listen to him during these Giant Bomb streams, but I feel like I could listen to him talk all day.

He doesn't quite understand Russia, however.

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@spuirrel said:

Lot of bigotry apologia in here.

Haha.