The History of Red Faction

I miss TRUE GeoMod...

I am indeed hot and bothered.

Red faction is pretty cool

BLOW SHIT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I miss being able to dig through the ground

Geohotz?

Red Faction 1 needs an XBLA release. 

Original Red Faction was fantastic, recall it fondly. Wasn't a fan of the sequel though.

Guerrilla was pretty fun! Bought it for 5 euro off Steam. God damn deal!

I love how they past over Red Faction 2 dead quick. That was the most disappointing sequel I have ever played and I couldn't believe they screw up so bad after how brilliant the first game was.

I love Red Faction but c'mon..

those fucking aliens are just Zerg...

and that magnetic gun is just the Gravity Gun

give me a goddamn break.

 Sweet! Guerilla was surprisingly great. I'm all aboard for the next instalment. 

" I love Red Faction but c'mon..those fucking aliens are just Zerg...give me a goddamn break "

Looks neat.

The fighting aliens underground stuff still does not interest me at all.

" I love how they past over Red Faction 2 dead quick. That was the most disappointing sequel I have ever played and I couldn't believe they screw up so bad after how brilliant the first game was. "

Fond memories of the glass house tech demo in the first game.

i might rent this now, been wondering all along about the red faction games, never got into them apart from a demo for guerrilla which i thought was pretty cool.

Not sure why, but I find it rather disconcerting to hear a developer use the term "fanboys" to describe users of their product.

" I am indeed hot and bothered. "

" @X19 said:

" I love how they past over Red Faction 2 dead quick. That was the most disappointing sequel I have ever played and I couldn't believe they screw up so bad after how brilliant the first game was. "

Actually, the main story was pretty good in my opinion, the "new, upgraded" geo-mod engine was really disappointing though - where you could dig tunnels in RF1, you could at most blow up a statue or telephone pole in RF2. And then the PC port was a complete joke - where the console versions at least had decent Quake 3-esque split screen multi-player, the PC version only had deathmatch against bots, no online or even network option at all, despite RF1 having a complete and beloved multi-player experience that is still being played by a hundred or so people on the PC to this day. "

I admire the Red faction series because of how they change things up between each one. However despite what most people say Red Faction 2 was great. The story was more interesting and the campaign was ten times more entertaining than the first game. Red Faction 1 was a really bland shooter with a dull story and the Geo Mod stuff was so limited it may as well not been there. It was put to better and more focused use in the sequel, which also had great multi-player.

" @fisk0 said:

" @X19 said:

" I love how they past over Red Faction 2 dead quick. That was the most disappointing sequel I have ever played and I couldn't believe they screw up so bad after how brilliant the first game was. "

Actually, the main story was pretty good in my opinion, the "new, upgraded" geo-mod engine was really disappointing though - where you could dig tunnels in RF1, you could at most blow up a statue or telephone pole in RF2. And then the PC port was a complete joke - where the console versions at least had decent Quake 3-esque split screen multi-player, the PC version only had deathmatch against bots, no online or even network option at all, despite RF1 having a complete and beloved multi-player experience that is still being played by a hundred or so people on the PC to this day. "

I can't remember the story at all, yeah I don't know what happened to geo-mod and the only fun maps in multi were the ones they copied over from the first game. Really left a bad taste in my mouth as you can probably tell XD

I'm glad the first one is still supported as that game had something special that I haven't seen replicated in further instalments of the franchise.

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Is that Nolan North I hear?

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Yeah, RF2, Guerrilla and Armageddon all seem to emphasize that you can blow buildings up, the first Red Faction let you blow the ENVIRONMENT up (except for in half the campaign where for some reason all the walls were indestructible). It's pretty disappointing how nothing you do in the games actually impacts the look of the hills or anything like that, like it did in RF1. I must say I did like the new RF2 mp maps more than the imported RF1 ones, since the RF1 maps were extremely disappointing when you couldn't dig deep tunnels anymore. The entire point of the Warlords map was lost when you couldn't do anything but blow up the concrete bunkers on the edges. "

This reminds me, sometime in the near future, Giant Bomb should totally do a TNT of the original Red Faction for PC. Maybe complemented with a little Guerrilla online for the console owners, since the PS2 version of RF1 didn't have online multiplayer.

" Red Faction 1 needs an XBLA release.  "

Oh "GEOMETRY MODIFICATION".

All this time I thought it was just a username!

blowing the shit out of dynamic environments is the future people!  These guys and the Dice guys have a pretty good head start.

"and that magnetic gun is just the Gravity Gun"

Only destruction game in town... I would actually put Battlefield BC1 and 2 on the same list. Though they are in a smaller scale and they don't promote it as the main selling point, its still the same type of destruktion and the destruktion feels better in BF:BC. RF:G felt like you were knocking down shit that was berely standing as it is.

Sadly when you have too much destruction going on, it feels less and less rewarding.
From what they showed in earlier videos everything feels like it is made out of cardboard, destruction just seems way too easy and trivial now, buildings being completely of no consequence. The repair function makes it doubly so. :(

*is hot and bothered*

The first Red Faction was great, but RF2 was kinda dreadful. The shooting in Guerrilla was terrible (on the PC version anyway) and the overall game was just so boring and repetitive that it was one of the few games I actually couldn't bother myself to finish.
So yeah, out of respect for the first RF, I really wish this will be good and that it will feature some actual good shooting mechanics and a more linear story with more varied missions. That could actually make it a great game, but I don't really know what to think of it... yet.

"...Creepers..."

"...Ravagers..."

"...Behemoths..."

*yawn*

EDIT: To clarify, I'm not disinterested in this game, but goddamn that's some uninspired naming right there.

" "...Creepers...""...Ravagers...""...Behemoths..."*yawn*EDIT: To clarify, I'm not disinterested in this game, but goddamn that's some uninspired naming right there. "

" Would you rather they be called Jefferson Starships?... 

Well, now that i think about it, i would. "

SHIT'S GONNA BLOW UP

Haven't played RF1 or 2, but currently playing RF:Guerilla and really loving it. Unfortunately, this new RF seems to place more focus on shooting bad guys (based on the trailers, at least) and I really am not interested in bald space marine action.

Bald space marine shoots some aliens!

Bought this months ago, I want it now.

"You fire a rocket at that wall, it shouldn't just turn black - there should be a hole in that wall and it should go through that wall and blow something up on the other side of that wall."

God. Damnit. Sold.

Well, it was sold practically since it was announced, just insanely reinforced in that Quick Look EX thingy, and then cemented with "Magnet Gun, and yes, it has infinite ammo". I might have to go back to Guerilla and hammer some dudes in the face soon.

How come every Sci-Fi game has to have aliens? I really liked how Red Faction Guerrilla were all about humans and the bad things humans do.

I heard the a sound of XCOM!

I'm glad they didn't dwell on Red Faction 2, that game was terrible.

Guerrilla is one of my top favourites the last few years, and this one does nothing for me. Linear, underground and with aliens. Three pretty much exact opposites of why I loved Guerrilla.

It is good to know that "at the core of it, it is a game".