ATTENTION ACHIEVEMENT WHORES - Don't Restart on Hard!!!

#1 Edited by jakob187 (21670 posts) -

Alright, so I've been whoring Wolverine for the past few days.  Once you've beaten the game, you have to option to replay any chapter that you've already played to continue the progress of your Wolvie character (i.e. XP, leveling up, increasing your combat reflexes, etc)...basically to be an achievement whore.  It's nice that they did this...especially since Bionic Commando does NOT let you go for the achievements in the Level Jump option (the bastards).


Four of the achievements that I was SUPER close to finishing were "Fully Loaded", "Samurai", "Boomerang" and "Devil's Brigade".  In order to get these achievements, you have to:
  • Fully Loaded - Obtain all upgrades (such as claw damage, etc...done by leveling up)
  • Samurai - Maxed out all Combat Reflexes to master level (there are five reflexes that you build up from just killing enemies under that type)
  • Boomerang - Kill 25 enemies by deflecting their rockets at them (I had 19/25)
  • Devil's Brigade - Find all the Dog Tags (little collectibles...I was at 77/95)

Well, there is ANOTHER achievement called "Walking Death" where you need to beat the game on the Hard difficulty...which is locked until you play through the game once...which is bullshit right off the bat.

Well, I needed to finish out two more levels on Wolverine, about half a bar on the reflexes for Machetes/Robots/Jungle Mutants, and get 18 more Dog Tags.  The reflexes were taking FOREVER to farm on Chapter 3 (where all three of these enemy types occur the most).  So, I thought like most RPG gamers would think:

"Hey, maybe if I play through the game on Hard difficulty, I'll get more XP and combat reflex from the enemies since it's a harder difficulty"

Now, I have a Hard save game going...and I'm at Level 3...with no Dog Tags...no Combat Reflexes...nothing.  All the kills...all the Dog Tags...all gone.

Starting over on Hard mode saves over ALL your information from before.  It DOES give you a prompt saying that you'll lose save progress, but my assumption was that they would be saving over my ability to replay missions...NOT TAKE AWAY EVERYTHING I JUST FINISHED WORKING MY ASS OFF FOR!!!  I would've even been fine with going back to Level 1...if I could've held on to my 19 Boomerang kills and my 77 Dog Tags.  The Combat Reflexes and Upgrades didn't take that long to get where they were, I guess...and on Hard, it seems to be moving the Reflexes along much quicker...although the XP level doesn't seem THAT much different.

I'm fucking cheesed right now, man.  FUCKING     CHEESED!  This is the stupidest design I've seen in a game.  Why would you lock the Hard difficulty mode from the start WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO START ME OVER ANYWAYS...and then when I want to play on a more difficult setting, you take away everything I just spent about 7 hours of gameplay time collecting?!

So this is a warning post to all the achievement whores looking to bust ass on this mediocre game for another S-rank:  DO NOT START ON HARD UNTIL YOU'VE FARMED ALL THE OTHER ACHIEVEMENTS!!!  You'll be at least level 37 before you get all the upgrades, and the Combat Reflexes mean you'll just need to play Chapter 3 a FUCKLOAD!!!

*EDIT*  Hard doesn't save over ALL your information, actually.  I got to keep the three costumes I unlocked.  -_-  Because they help...
#2 Posted by addictedtopinescent (3645 posts) -

...

That's bullshit
Sorry for you man, so will you do it all over again.
#3 Posted by MB (12389 posts) -
@jakob187: Thanks for reminding me of the benefits of not caring about achievements.
Moderator Online
#4 Posted by Jolly_Lolly (3537 posts) -

What the hell did you think would happen? You yourself said there was a warning message before you proceeded.

Sorry, but it was a pretty silly move on your part considering this game hardly qualifies as an RPG.

#5 Posted by zitosilva (1840 posts) -

huh, that's a pretty weird design choice. Sorry for all your wasted time.

#6 Edited by jakob187 (21670 posts) -
Jolly_Lolly said:
What the hell did you think would happen? You yourself said there was a warning message before you proceeded. Sorry, ... [more]
It said it would save over the save progress, which I ASSUMED would mean it would save over the ability to replay missions.  I figured that only meant it would save over my levels gained and maybe the combat reflexes, which was cool.  I could get those back just playing through the game anyways.  I busted to level 30 on one playthrough on Normal, so it's not like that would be anything tough to achieve.  I didn't expect it to save over the Dog Tags I collected or the Boomerang kills, as those are working towards achievements.  It just seemed silly for them to do something like THAT!!!

addictedtopinescent said:
...That's bullshitSorry for you man, so will you do it all over again. [more]
Yeah.  I gotta play through Hard anyways for the Walking Death achievement, so I'll just be building back up towards it.  You can guarantee I'm going to have the Rooster Teeth Achievement Hunter videos for Devil's Brigade right next to me this time though, as I'm going to get all the Dog Tags on this run through.  lol

MB said:
@jakob187: Thanks for reminding me of the benefits of not caring about achievements. [more]
It's either this or WoW.  With this, I at least get some variety in my games.

Tonight, however, I think I'm going to be jamming out on the Xbox Live Arcade Unplugged and Xbox Live Arcade Compilation discs that we've got.  That's 11 games with 200 points a pop.  Which games?
  • Bejeweled 2
  • Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved (which I know I can at least get to 500,000 on based on my playtime with the Wii version)
  • Wik: Fable of Souls
  • Texas Hold'em Poker
  • Outpost Kaloki X
  • Hardwood Backgammon
  • PAC-MAN Championship Edition
  • UNO
  • Feeding Frenzy
  • Boom Boom Rocket (which I loved the first time I played it)
  • Luxor 2

So...it's going to be a LOOONG night.
#7 Posted by Jedted (2360 posts) -

I got every achievement except Walking Death, Devil's Brigade, and the one you get on the Blob level.  I tried going for that last one but i think it glitched because i destroyed everything i didn't get it.  I can easily collect all the dog tags while playing through on hard so that's not too much trouble.

Too bad my 360 is bricked though. :(

#8 Posted by jakob187 (21670 posts) -
Jedted said:
I got every achievement except Walking Death, Devil's Brigade, and the one you get on the Blob level.  I tried ... [more]
"Clean Up On All Aisles" glitched for me the first time as well.  I went back and did it a second time, and I got it.  Then again, part of my brain keeps struggling with whether I destroyed EVERYTHING on the walls at the front of the store or not.  Then again, in running around for almost 7 minutes and looking closely for stuff...you would think I would notice.  =  /
#9 Posted by LiquidPrince (15947 posts) -

Sucks.

#10 Posted by jakob187 (21670 posts) -
LiquidPrince said:
Sucks.
Don't turn my thread into a word association game!!!  =  P
#11 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (4777 posts) -
jakob187 said:
Jolly_Lolly said: What the hell did you think would happen? You yourself said there was a warning message before you ... [more]
i need to get around to picking those up i got namco museum virtual arcade, what other then unplugged are there? since you say Discs are there more then one?
#12 Posted by Seedofpower (3928 posts) -

Well, thanks for the notice.

#13 Edited by pause422 (6187 posts) -

Good thing achievements are stupid as hell and I don't one bit about them, but when I rented Wolverine, I assumed that was what happened when it said you're stuff will be overwritten. I got my money's worth out of it anyway, so I was still happy.

#14 Posted by Cheapoz (1064 posts) -
MB said:
@jakob187: Thanks for reminding me of the benefits of not caring about achievements.
Moderators troll here? Nice.
#15 Posted by MB (12389 posts) -
Cheapoz said:
MB said: @jakob187: Thanks for reminding me of the benefits of not caring about achievements. Moderators troll here? Nice. [more]
If my post fits your definition of "trolling", then I suggest you lighten up a little bit.
Moderator Online
#16 Posted by Shadow (4980 posts) -

I'm actually planning to zip through it on medium and do all the upgrading stuff on hard.  It's more fun to be all badass killing guys who are harder.  That's the same reason I upgraded everything in Insane difficulty in Dead Space.  It just gets boring when there's absolutely no challenge.

#17 Posted by demonbear (1859 posts) -
MB said:
Cheapoz said: MB said: @jakob187: Thanks for reminding me of the benefits of not caring about achievements. Moderators troll here? ... [more]
What he probably meant is that your post did not bring anything constructive or relevant to the conversation. Which is the case.

that being said, it IS a design flaw. That kind of error should be mentionned before you start a game or something, like a warning. But hey, at least now we now. thanks for the heads-up.
#18 Edited by get2sammyb (6412 posts) -
@jakob187: Yep same thing happened to me. Instead of getting the trophies I would have collected, I gave up. I like X-Men Origins but, well, replay value is low. Especially when you're reset to a basic Wolverine.
#19 Posted by pause422 (6187 posts) -
MB said:
Cheapoz said: MB said: @jakob187: Thanks for reminding me of the benefits of not caring about achievements. Moderators troll here? ... [more]
Yeah, that's pretty hilarious.
#20 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -

That sucks.

#21 Posted by jakob187 (21670 posts) -
WilliamRLBaker said:
jakob187 said: Jolly_Lolly said: What the hell did you think would happen? You yourself said there was a warning message ... [more]
Well, the Xbox Live Arcade Compilation one comes with new Xbox 360 Lites.  The Xbox Live Arcade Unplugged is available at retail and such.  There's quite a few compilation discs for Arcade games.  If I could find one that happened to have...oh...Castlevania: SOTN, Bionic Commando Rearmed, Doom, Duke Nukem 3D, Braid, and Geometry Wars 2...that would be FUCKING AWESOME!!!  Then again, it would be awesome if John Bonham and Keith Moon were risen from the dead and put against each other in a drum battle to the re-death.  =  /

demonbear said:
MB said: Cheapoz said: MB said: @jakob187: Thanks for reminding me of the benefits of not caring about achievements. Moderators ... [more]
MB's not a troll.  He's just jealous of my e-peen.  = D  Then again, my e-peen deflates quickly when he throws a Medium Punch.  = * (

Shadow said:
I'm actually planning to zip through it on medium and do all the upgrading stuff on hard.  It's more fun ... [more]
Thanks for reminding me that I sold my copy of Dead Space without getting two of the 10 point achievements and the 150 point one for finishing it on Impossible.  =* (  Now I gotta rebuy it...or rent it...or something...

Also, I plugged in the Arcade comps last night.  Wik & The Fable of Souls is retarded, I'm apparently no good at Geometry Wars anymore (couldn't even get Pacifism even though I've gotten it on lansharx58 before with NO problems...first try), and Bejeweled 2 had my number ALL night.  Bullshit.  THEREFORE, I've decided to pick up a game that I never did go too far in:  Star Wars - The Force Unleashed.  Hopefully, that amazing guide here on Giant Bomb will come in handy.  = D
#22 Posted by pornstorestiffi (4914 posts) -
MB said:
@jakob187: Thanks for reminding me of the benefits of not caring about achievements.
Nice one sir
#23 Posted by jakob187 (21670 posts) -
pornstorestiffi said:
MB said: @jakob187: Thanks for reminding me of the benefits of not caring about achievements. Nice one sir [more]
Your avatar is a nice one.  = D
#24 Posted by nail1080 (1975 posts) -

lol the trolling mod makes this thread win!

but yeah thanks TC I'll get the rest of the achievements before moving onto hard mode

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