Most PSN Users Have Come Back, But Financial Consequences for Sony Leadership

@Adziboy: In an interview with Gamasutra, Jack Tretton said PSN traffic is at 90% of the pre-hack levels. Which is different from saying 10% of PS3 owners have not logged back in. Nonetheless, it's going to be an expensive year for Sony and time will tell how this will influence the consumer's choice in the next generation of consoles.

@mnzy said:

@Goldanas said:

That bums me out, but it's tough times for all.

Actually, economy is on the rise everywhere for a while now.

Where's this at? I wouldn't call an economy where most states are still over 10% unemployment and having to cut billions per state in education an economy on the rise.

bummer, hopefully sony can eventually get completely back on their feet and be a bit stronger.

SIR Howard Stringer!

I am one of those 90% because I logged in to change my password. That doesn't mean I use the service.

Sony's quality overall seems to be on a steady decline for the last 10 years or so. Everything from consumer electronics to their studio gear. They used to be #1 for studio quality stuff but I wouldn't say that now. Something similar happened to HP where they kicked most of their veteran engineers to the curb and outsourced the work or spun out divisions to separate companies. HP/Agilent is no more. What's left is pretty much junk.

Aw, poor rich people.

kaz harai can't buy that new car he wanted anymore. least he gets to play uncharted 3 :D

Wasn't the 90% figure announced at their E3 press conference?

Shortly after PSN came back up I thought about purchasing something off the store.  I made my selection and followed the usual prompts, then it asked me for my credit card as I had not re-entered it since the crash.  I looked at my credit card in my hands, looked back up at PSN, looked down, then up, and down again.  Hesitation.  Slid credit card back in wallet unentered, logged off PSN.  Sorry Sony, I don't trust you anymore.  :(

Im going to buy psn cards now to topup my account the aint having may card details again

i was back on PSN the second it went live again... deleted my CC info but i'm over it

They got pay cuts? Aww, poor guys. Hope they can get through this tough time.

We came back for the free stuff. The question is if we'll stay.

So it's Sony's loss or the Playstation brand's loss?

Sony has lots of problems and I think it stems from poor leadership and too much confidence in the PlayStation name.

I find this to be oddly karma related.

Never did like Sony much after Sony installed a rootkit on my PC because I listened on a legitimate music CD on my Computer.

Another huge loss for Sony. MS and Ninty are doing fine.

Oh no, they'll have to order one less 30 pound lobster now. But hey, I feel for Sony, those hackers are pathetic losers with no life who need to try to prove ridiculous points. 

@pot said:

Another huge loss for Sony. MS and Ninty are doing fine.

The Xbox division has been growing for awhile, after so many years of losing Microsoft money, but as a whole the company is not in the greatest spot.

Also Sony is a huge company. Yes the Playstation brand isn't doing as well as it did in the PS2 days but it's far from Sony's main problem.

Really... salary cuts... that's it... what the fuck?!

Probably wont even feel it.

You reap what you sow-ny! *gunshot*

Maybe from now on they'll update their webOS at relevant intervals and keep their firewall on.

@jabbertrack said:

I am one of those 90% because I logged in to change my password. That doesn't mean I use the service.

I think "users" like this fellow are a large part of Sony's optimistic data.

Incidentally, it's this whole scandal that got me to break out my PS3 and start playing it regularly again for the third time since I bought it last December.

After the PSN problems there was bound to be some impact.

                   

@pot said:

Another huge loss for Sony. MS and Ninty are doing fine.

The Xbox division has been growing for awhile, after so many years of losing Microsoft money, but as a whole the company is not in the greatest spot.

Also Sony is a huge company. Yes the Playstation brand isn't doing as well as it did in the PS2 days but it's far from Sony's main problem.

                   

               

If sony wants to take the lead, they will have to release their next console generation way before microsoft, but also I dont think that is going to happen any time soon. Especially when we keep seeing the current systems being pushed more and more...

On the other hand, I personally would buy any new gen console, even if it is expensive. I love having the latest technology at home.

Sony could maybe launch the "PS4" with some games being compatible with both the PS3 and the "PS4" (having better graphics, resolution, 3D, textures, frame rate, etc on the "PS4". And with the bluray capacity, it would not be a problem). That could help people making the transition from the PS3 to the "PS4" little by little whenever money allows it. They would also need to allow people with PS3 to play online with "PS4" users.

They could also do some kind of crazy shit to allow people with Xbox360 to transfer their achivement points from Live to PSN trophies for multiplatform games. That should not be so hard, similar to what giantbomb did here to pull our achievement data. Although I dunno how microsoft would react to that. LOL.

Ohhh the future, I cannot wait to see it... mmhhhhh actually I can.... because I have to.

ouch..I feel for sony man. yeah they still have a lot of money but this whole hack thing was really bad publicity for them. I still love my PS3 :)

i'm surprised they didn't patch out the 1 PSN A/C = 5 copies thingy.

Its being abused to hell from where I'm at.

Oh no, now they are only millionaires instead of millionaires.

If by "come back" they mean downloaded the free stuff, then yeah. I did that. Then I turned the PS3 off again and went back to playing 360.

I've literally had a pleasant time with Sony throughout the entire experience.

A few weeks of no online? .. Fine? I still don't have to pay for goddamn online, just like my PC.

I don't think I'll ever be able to embrace that weird barrier.

Ouch indeed.

I think that the PS3 division is making money Patrick. I read something on Gamespot about it being one of the biggest, if not the biggest, source of finance for Sony. If their salaries were cut, it might be because they might've had something  to do with with the lay offs in the security staff of PSN just one week before the attack. 
 
Punishment for a bad decision makes a lot more sense than punishing them for making profit I guess. But I am not 100% sure of all this.

Of course everyone has come back, what else could they do? Spend £190 on an xbox? ON which none of their games will work? The unfortunate thing is that even if someone has lost all trust in sony, they're just gonna have to stick with them cause people have invested so much in the system.

Looks like Kaz Hirai just moved up in the company. http://ps3.ign.com/articles/117/1179583p1.html

@RE_Player92 said:

@pot said:

Another huge loss for Sony. MS and Ninty are doing fine.

The Xbox division has been growing for awhile, after so many years of losing Microsoft money, but as a whole the company is not in the greatest spot.

Also Sony is a huge company. Yes the Playstation brand isn't doing as well as it did in the PS2 days but it's far from Sony's main problem.

Nobody sees MS numbers breakdown, but how much do you want to bet that XBox Live subscriptions are keeping Microsoft afloat right now?

If Sony wants to be completely forgiven in my book, they'll replace all those digital 4k projectors they've installed in theaters with significantly better models. Those projectors fucking suck. Every time I go to a movie with a Sony projector, I can barely make out anything because the screen's so fucking dim.

                   

@RE_Player92 said:

@pot said:

Another huge loss for Sony. MS and Ninty are doing fine.

The Xbox division has been growing for awhile, after so many years of losing Microsoft money, but as a whole the company is not in the greatest spot.

Also Sony is a huge company. Yes the Playstation brand isn't doing as well as it did in the PS2 days but it's far from Sony's main problem.

Nobody sees MS numbers breakdown, but how much do you want to bet that XBox Live subscriptions are keeping Microsoft afloat right now?

                   

               

@pot: Yeah, but basically what I'm saying is, how much money is MS actually making besides off of 360? At least half of their userbase hasn't upgraded the OS in 10 years, and I'd wager the upgrade rates for office are similar.

                   

@pot: Yeah, but basically what I'm saying is, how much money is MS actually making besides off of 360? At least half of their userbase hasn't upgraded the OS in 10 years, and I'd wager the upgrade rates for office are similar.

                   

               

Even with the pay cut those two guys are still making plenty of money.