When Earth begins to fall in an ancient cycle of destruction, Commander Shepard must unite the forces of the galaxy to stop the Reapers in the final chapter of the original Mass Effect trilogy.
You spin me right round baby right round like a record baby right round round round
But it's not really that big of a spin. Regardless of what you thought of the ending, it doesn't change the fact that:
A. Mass Effect 3 is a quality product
B. People liked it alot.
Nah, my point is that this picture was posted before the whole ending controversy (among other things in the game) blew up on the internet, and that they can still after that entire shitstorm release a pr statement that implies the very same thing. That's spin.
I find the"over 75 perfect scores" funnier than the actual quote. How much those cost to EA? Just wondering...
I'd like to see those perfect scores, but then again anything can be perfect if you encourage reviewers with enough *cough* money *cough*.
i've always wondered why if its so easy to buy perfect review why every game doesnt have one. you'd think it would just be common practice and budgeted for.
@doobie: I'm sure if companies wanted to buy a review score they wouldn't just dump a bag of money on a writer's desk and tell them the number they want. I imagine by 'buying' people mean sending reviewer's swag, inviting them to the company buildings for a hype-briefing and to play the game in favourable circumstances (along with a bunch of other excited journalists), and just paying PR people to keep a close relationship with reviewers. It might not sound like much, but reviewer's seem like an impressionable bunch to me.
@doobie: I'm sure if companies wanted to buy a review score they wouldn't just dump a bag of money on a writer's desk and tell them the number they want. I imagine by 'buying' people mean sending reviewer's swag, inviting them to the company buildings for a hype-briefing and to play the game in favourable circumstances (along with a bunch of other excited journalists), and just paying PR people to keep a close relationship with reviewers. It might not sound like much, but reviewer's seem like an impressionable bunch to me.
but if its so easy why does any game get a bad review
@doobie: I'm sure if companies wanted to buy a review score they wouldn't just dump a bag of money on a writer's desk and tell them the number they want. I imagine by 'buying' people mean sending reviewer's swag, inviting them to the company buildings for a hype-briefing and to play the game in favourable circumstances (along with a bunch of other excited journalists), and just paying PR people to keep a close relationship with reviewers. It might not sound like much, but reviewer's seem like an impressionable bunch to me.
but if its so easy why does any game get a bad review
Cause it's too expensive for most games. Some games can barely afford advertising.
Plus I think it gets tricky when you look at the games that get great reviews. You can't sell someone a broken, buggy, piece of trash and tell them to give it a great review score - it's too much of a stretch. But you can give reviewers a rehashed, polished-looking sequel that has plenty of chintz but is a bit of a chore to play and get them to give it a great review, cause superficially nobody can see how bad it is.
@doobie: I'm sure if companies wanted to buy a review score they wouldn't just dump a bag of money on a writer's desk and tell them the number they want. I imagine by 'buying' people mean sending reviewer's swag, inviting them to the company buildings for a hype-briefing and to play the game in favourable circumstances (along with a bunch of other excited journalists), and just paying PR people to keep a close relationship with reviewers. It might not sound like much, but reviewer's seem like an impressionable bunch to me.
but if its so easy why does any game get a bad review
Cause it's too expensive for most games. Some games can barely afford advertising.
Plus I think it gets tricky when you look at the games that get great reviews. You can't sell someone a broken, buggy, piece of trash and tell them to give it a great review score - it's too much of a stretch. But you can give reviewers a rehashed, polished-looking sequel that has plenty of chintz but is a bit of a chore to play and get them to give it a great review, cause superficially nobody can see how bad it is.
If Bioware had allotted a large portion of marketing funds to game development instead there would be no problem. But no, they had to market the fuck out of everything, its a damn shame.
@doobie: I'm sure if companies wanted to buy a review score they wouldn't just dump a bag of money on a writer's desk and tell them the number they want. I imagine by 'buying' people mean sending reviewer's swag, inviting them to the company buildings for a hype-briefing and to play the game in favourable circumstances (along with a bunch of other excited journalists), and just paying PR people to keep a close relationship with reviewers. It might not sound like much, but reviewer's seem like an impressionable bunch to me.
but if its so easy why does any game get a bad review
Cause it's too expensive for most games. Some games can barely afford advertising.
Plus I think it gets tricky when you look at the games that get great reviews. You can't sell someone a broken, buggy, piece of trash and tell them to give it a great review score - it's too much of a stretch. But you can give reviewers a rehashed, polished-looking sequel that has plenty of chintz but is a bit of a chore to play and get them to give it a great review, cause superficially nobody can see how bad it is.
how expensive is it?
How would I know that? What I do know is that publishers allocate advertising budgets accordingly towards the end of a dev cycle for most games, so if a game looks like shit then they're not going to pump much money into it because it won't get much back.
@doobie: I'm sure if companies wanted to buy a review score they wouldn't just dump a bag of money on a writer's desk and tell them the number they want. I imagine by 'buying' people mean sending reviewer's swag, inviting them to the company buildings for a hype-briefing and to play the game in favourable circumstances (along with a bunch of other excited journalists), and just paying PR people to keep a close relationship with reviewers. It might not sound like much, but reviewer's seem like an impressionable bunch to me.
but if its so easy why does any game get a bad review
Cause it's too expensive for most games. Some games can barely afford advertising.
Plus I think it gets tricky when you look at the games that get great reviews. You can't sell someone a broken, buggy, piece of trash and tell them to give it a great review score - it's too much of a stretch. But you can give reviewers a rehashed, polished-looking sequel that has plenty of chintz but is a bit of a chore to play and get them to give it a great review, cause superficially nobody can see how bad it is.
how expensive is it?
How would I know that? What I do know is that publishers allocate advertising budgets accordingly towards the end of a dev cycle for most games, so if a game looks like shit then they're not going to pump much money into it because it won't get much back.
He's trying to call you out for assuming that review scores are paid for. I agree with him. You are a paranoid internet person without a clue. You probably call out many review scores you disagree with as being "paid for". Your little quote up there about polished sequels? Maybe you simply don't like those as much as the average person does, so your opinion is in the minority. Introspection first, my man. Introspection first.
@Brendan: While there might be some review scores that are actually bought, I was pointing out the "funny" fact that while ME3 is a good and even a great game, 75+ "perfect" scores just seems fishy IMO.
Damn you Bioware! Stop giving us free content for a multiplayer the fans never, ever wanted (although quite a few have begrudgingly agreed that it's pretty decent).
Dopamine. It's called Dopamine.
:( I'm too stupid to know what you're trying to say... :( Are you referring to Dopamine excess? Which would cause psychosis? Also amenorrhea and lactation in men... Are you saying Bioware is lactating in their ad? Or do they not have enough dopamine, and so they're experiencing Parkisonianism? Or maybe it's systemic effects of dopamine like vomiting and nausea. Help. I need help.
Damn you Bioware! Stop giving us free content for a multiplayer the fans never, ever wanted (although quite a few have begrudgingly agreed that it's pretty decent).
Dopamine. It's called Dopamine.
:( I'm too stupid to know what you're trying to say... :( Are you referring to Dopamine excess? Which would cause psychosis? Also amenorrhea and lactation in men... Are you saying Bioware is lactating in their ad? Or do they not have enough dopamine, and so they're experiencing Parkisonianism? Or maybe it's systemic effects of dopamine like vomiting and nausea. Help. I need help.
I like how it's only games that people have turned against (Halo, Call of Duty, and now Mass Effect) are the ones that are apparently capable of "buying reviewers off."
OH RIGHT!!! I forgot this only applies when people like games "you" don't--because that's terrible.
If Bioware had allotted a large portion of marketing funds to game development instead there would be no problem. But no, they had to market the fuck out of everything, its a damn shame.
I find the"over 75 perfect scores" funnier than the actual quote. How much those cost to EA? Just wondering...
I'd like to see those perfect scores, but then again anything can be perfect if you encourage reviewers with enough *cough* money *cough*.
i've always wondered why if its so easy to buy perfect review why every game doesnt have one. you'd think it would just be common practice and budgeted for.
or is it just EA cos there EVIL!!!!!
Yeah, I'm getting really sick of the "zomg all reviews of a game is bought and paid for" conspiracy theory bullshit. Nobodies ever had any proof of an exchange of funds over such things. You'd think such a thing would be a big controversy that somebody, somewhere, would've written about for fame and fortune, no?
Let's face the facts, even if the ending of ME3 sucked, the game itself was fun. Critics liked it, critics scored it based on their enjoyment of it. There was no evil shadowy exchange of cash involved. e.e
I find the"over 75 perfect scores" funnier than the actual quote. How much those cost to EA? Just wondering...
I'd like to see those perfect scores, but then again anything can be perfect if you encourage reviewers with enough *cough* money *cough*.
i've always wondered why if its so easy to buy perfect review why every game doesnt have one. you'd think it would just be common practice and budgeted for.
or is it just EA cos there EVIL!!!!!
Yeah, I'm getting really sick of the "zomg all reviews of a game is bought and paid for" conspiracy theory bullshit. Nobodies ever had any proof of an exchange of funds over such things. You'd think such a thing would be a big controversy that somebody, somewhere, would've written about for fame and fortune, no?
Let's face the facts, even if the ending of ME3 sucked, the game itself was fun. Critics liked it, critics scored it based on their enjoyment of it. There was no evil shadowy exchange of cash involved. e.e
I'm not saying that any of the reviews were paid for, but I'm wondering where the hell these supposed reviews are. As I said earlier in this thread:
And I count about 15 perfect scores on Metacritic, so where are they pulling the number 75 out of their ass? Are they counting user scores? Are they counting You Tube fan reviews made before the game was even released? Did they ask BioWare employees to write up a short paragraph about the game, and then give the game a score between 9 and 11?
I don't care what your opinion is on the endings, you have to admit this is really shitty. This is marketing spin at its worst, or best depending how you look at it. BioWare I love you, or at least I want too, but shit like this isn't helping you.
Well, it's true. Also, it wouldn't have happened if we all didn't love Mass Effect, and beat the 3rd game.
I'm getting the sense that you people don't realize that a controversial fan reaction to the ending that is this strong indicates the amount of investment (and thereby quality) of the rest of the fucking game(s). If Mass Effect was just bad and had a bad ending, that would be the end of it. No one would talk about it. You people bitch because you love it otherwise.
But no, please, continue to complain at every opportunity.
I'm getting the sense that you people don't realize that a controversial fan reaction to the ending that is this strong indicates the amount of investment (and thereby quality) of the rest of the fucking game(s).
I know I certainly realize that.
@Otzlowe said:
But no, please, continue to complain at every opportunity.
No PR is bad PR, and the statement isn't a lie. Sounds dirty, but it's a smart marketing move. And when you think about it, the reason for the big reaction was due to the attachment to the game from the players and how much they had invested into the story. The statement is just saying so many people were so attached to the series and ME3 itself that when they felt the need to express themselves about the end.
I don't see why that's disgusting. If anything it takes something that was totally vile (the bullshit people did about the ending) and turned it against those very same people. Kudos to Bioware marketing.
Said journalist is %100 right. The ending HAS provoked a bigger fan reaction than any other game in history. The quote has just been taken grossly out of context. To the degree that it might actually be lawsuit worthy.
Yes. Don't know why this is a struggle. Far more controversial things have been done. Remember when tons and tons of oil leaked into the sea recently and F'd shit up bigtime and killed lots of animals? Remember, how the company at fault then declared that it actually really really loved that area of the country and was going to rebuild it? That same company kept grossly under-reporting the damage caused by the leak. Just a few days ago we see that it is still screwing up a very major food source for us.
You cannot say the "reaction was largely negative", you are taking a way too small sample size and generalizing it. Lots of people played the game and did not come on the internet to bitch about it. I also, have never heard one person complaining about the ending on multiplayer and that has always surprised me.
What do you want them to say? "A bunch of NeckBeards are pissed off at 10 minutes of the game and have started a "Hold the Line" campaign due to the ending!"
The ending was not great but it wasn't the abomination that some are making it out to be. It takes about 10 seconds of rational thought to see what they were trying to do with it. The ME series is/was a great series overall.
Said journalist is %100 right. The ending HAS provoked a bigger fan reaction than any other game in history. The quote has just been taken grossly out of context. To the degree that it might actually be lawsuit worthy.
LETS GET EM BOYS!
Its funny because frivolous lawsuits are becoming increasingly illegal. People in prison that are bored file them all the time. Filing a complaint about a video game ending will get laughed out of court at the very least.
Said journalist is %100 right. The ending HAS provoked a bigger fan reaction than any other game in history. The quote has just been taken grossly out of context. To the degree that it might actually be lawsuit worthy.
LETS GET EM BOYS!
Its funny because frivolous lawsuits are becoming increasingly illegal. People in prison that are bored file them all the time. Filing a complaint about a video game ending will get laughed out of court at the very least.
Yeah, id like to see any court system take this seriously.
You know how backed up legal systems are? You show them how your disappointed in a product and theyll tell you to shut the fuck up and stop wasting valuable time/resources.
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