I tried playing that Grim Fandango and while I love the style and the story and find it really funny from the intro, I start playing and think to myself that the gameplay is really boring and pointless. I'd rather just watch it as a movie rather than being frustrated spending ages working out what to do or clicking to move about because the gameplay isn't fun, the story and script is.
So when people say adventure games are dying well....... yeh the gameplay is boring that noone really finds it fun and thats why they don't sell well. However the thing that made them so good which were the story is now being put into other genres like FPS and RPG where the gameplay is more action based and fun.
So really have they died? The boring gameplay has but the stories that made them so great in the first place have just been merged into other genres.
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Are adventure games dying or just being merged into other genres?
"I tried playing that Grim Fandango and while I love the style and the story and find it really funny from the intro, I start playing and think to myself that the gameplay is really boring and pointless. I'd rather just watch it as a movie rather than being frustrated spending ages working out what to do or clicking to move about because the gameplay isn't fun, the story and script is.Yahtzee said the same thing in that Game Damage pilot. But I disagree. The essence of the gameplay in adventure games are puzzles. In other variations of adventure games (not lucasarts ones) it can sometimes be about dialogue, and choices. I think that the gameplay is slow, but not necessarily boring.
So when people say adventure games are dying well....... yeh the gameplay is boring that noone really finds it fun and thats why they don't sell well. However the thing that made them so good which were the story is now being put into other genres like FPS and RPG where the gameplay is more action based and fun.
So really have they died? The boring gameplay has but the stories that made them so great in the first place have just been merged into other genres."
After all, Braid and Portal were essentially puzzle games with a great narrative. There's still a place for old school adventures, or maybe I'm just clinging to the past.
Heavy Rain for the PS3 will be in the adventure genre, and the same developers made Ingido Prophecy (or Fahrenheit, the superior version). The Sherlock Holmes games are adventure, there's a couple Dracula ones out. There are so many cheap ones that came out the past two years for the PC, just look for them on the shelves.
Technically Gears is also an adventure game, afterall you go on an adventure.
Just what do you think is a good old regular adventure game?
Actually now you should use the term Point 'n click adventure becasue almost all of the games of various genres (excluding racing , RTS and straight shooters ) have some adventure elements to it . Point 'n click adventure games are not dead , there are still many games of high quality like Still life 2 being produced by the developers . gameplay wise these adventure games are all about engaging stories , dialogs and puzzles . you should not expect more from these games .
"Actually now you should use the term Point 'n click adventure becasue almost all of the games of various genres (excluding racing , RTS and straight shooters ) have some adventure elements to it . Point 'n click adventure games are not dead , there are still many games of high quality like Still life 2 being produced by the developers . gameplay wise these adventure games are all about engaging stories , dialogs and puzzles . you should not expect more from these games .
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I still remember that Pink Panther point and click game. It was awesome.
"Technically Gears is also an adventure game, afterall you go on an adventure.I think he means what is also called Point-and-Click.
Just what do you think is a good old regular adventure game?"
Finding it boring is merely taste. I have fun playing this type of the, I don't think the gameplay is boring at all.
And the genre isn't necessarily dying, it's just not mainstream anymore. There's a huge indie community that makes said games. And bigger publishers have found a place for them in episodic content, like Sam & Max. A Vampyre Story just came out, and although it's critically aclaimed, no one even talks about it, let alone play. So, it's not dying, it's just hidden.
"daniel_beck_90 said:It certainly was"Actually now you should use the term Point 'n click adventure becasue almost all of the games of various genres (excluding racing , RTS and straight shooters ) have some adventure elements to it . Point 'n click adventure games are not dead , there are still many games of high quality like Still life 2 being produced by the developers . gameplay wise these adventure games are all about engaging stories , dialogs and puzzles . you should not expect more from these games .
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I still remember that Pink Panther point and click game. It was awesome.
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zitosilva said:
"StaticFalconar said:Exactly"Technically Gears is also an adventure game, afterall you go on an adventure.I think he means what is also called Point-and-Click.
Just what do you think is a good old regular adventure game?"
Finding it boring is merely taste. I have fun playing this type of the, I don't think the gameplay is boring at all.
And the genre isn't necessarily dying, it's just not mainstream anymore. There's a huge indie community that makes said games. And bigger publishers have found a place for them in episodic content, like Sam & Max. A Vampyre Story just came out, and although it's critically aclaimed, no one even talks about it, let alone play. So, it's not dying, it's just hidden."
Adventure games are not dying, games genres that were not adventures before are being made into adventures.
"I tried playing that Grim Fandango and while I love the style and the story and find it really funny from the intro, I start playing and think to myself that the gameplay is really boring and pointless. I'd rather just watch it as a movie rather than being frustrated spending ages working out what to do or clicking to move about because the gameplay isn't fun, the story and script is.I wouldn't at all say that the charm and great stories in the classic adventure games have been transferred over to FPS and RPG's. Most action games just have uninspiring bland stories and characters. The last game I played with that "adventure game charm" would probably be Psychonauts.
So when people say adventure games are dying well....... yeh the gameplay is boring that noone really finds it fun and thats why they don't sell well. However the thing that made them so good which were the story is now being put into other genres like FPS and RPG where the gameplay is more action based and fun.
So really have they died? The boring gameplay has but the stories that made them so great in the first place have just been merged into other genres."
"They still make point and click adventures. You're just not looking in the right places.
www.adventuregamers.com
Check it out.
I'm a huge fan of the genre and I still play any good ones that I find."
Beat me to the punch. With Sam and Max so widely available and the abundance of adventure games like the Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie series, the adventure genre is far from done. However, the big-budget adventure games of the past have definitely slowed to a trickle. Heavy Rain looks very promising.
EDIT: I've come to realize too that certain variations on adventure games have evolved past the point of being recognizable as such. For instance, one of my absolute favorite series of all time was Quest for Glory. It was a point-and-click with RPG elements, like stat allocation, fighting sequences, and a wide, colorful cast of characters. For years I lamented its death and shouted to anyone that would listen that they need to make games like that nowadays. However, I came to realize this last year that a game like Fable 2 takes most of the best elements of Quest for Glory and modernized it, in a surprisingly amazing fashion. And really, Fallout 3 does much the same, as does Oblivion. So the melding of genre favorites into more modern game certainly isn't a bad thing. Would I like to see the world of Quest for Glory again? Hell yes. Would I be terribly disappointed if it never happened? Of course not. These other games are simply amazing and well-deserving of the term "spiritual successor."
I thought Starbreeze's games reminded me very much of the adventure games of old despite being action games. Both The Darkness and especially The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay had long stretches of just puzzle solving (though often in a violent way) between action sequences.
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