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My First Day in EVE Online

WHAT IN THE MOTHER OF FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE

 
I've been passively interested in EVE for the past year or so, but I never took the plunge because I kept hearing how difficult it is to get into. You hear all these cool stories about corporate wars and back alley espionage however it is surrounded by this impentreable barrier of numbers and graphs that only those most dedicated to dedication will be able to even hope penetrating. 
 
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That's the perception anyway. 
 
What i encountered in my first day of EVE is quite the opposite. 
 
First, let's just talk about getting into EVE. After you create your character you are immediately dropped into a ship and the first thing you see is a tutorial. This tutorial teaches you how to navigate space, how to fight, and how to perform various other basic activities in EVE along with giving you some free items to boot. After docking at a station for the first time and figuring out what's all up in there you may notice something else. 
 
Oh what's this at the bottom left side of my screen? It appears to be a chat box. 
 
But this is no ordinary chat box. This is the world's best fucking chat box ever. It's like all the other MMO's out there, it's basically an in game IRC. You put in the channel you want to talk in and boom, viola, you are there. That's not the cool part though, that would be the Rookie channel it is automatically tuned in to. There are actually player volunteers recognized by CCP, along with other regular players, that just sit in there ready to answer questions. I entered a question only to have the exact answer I needed within twenty seconds. 
 
It's fucking great. 
 
Now i've heard, through the grapevine let's say, that joining a corporation reigns in the same benefits of having a veteran support group to call on as well as, you know, fiscal assets. For someone like me though, someone who maybe isn't ready to just toss my loyalty over to whoever is hiring, having this instant support hotline is fucking great. 
 
Did I mention that there is an in-game internet browser as well? The tutorial links you right to a fucking wiki page for extended detail on certain items. Shit is crazy as hell. 
  

But now let's get to the part you all came for.

 
EVE is actually a fantastic product, you just have to be in the market for it. There really isn't that much difference between EVE and, let's say, a World of Warcraft. The only significant difference is that players govern everything. 
   
Now I did just start playing yesterday, so of course my view is going to be a bit skewed towards the naive, but I think I've gotten the basics of how this world operates. The mechanics are incredibly similar to any other MMO on the market, it's how they are used that make it all seem so foreign. For instance, you still farm. You can go hunt down hostile NPCs, or hunt down other players. You still grind, but you are now grinding your mining laser against an asteroid for resources. You still craft, but now you are crafting goods to trade on the intergalactic market. 
 
Yeah, it goes a bit deeper than that. There are things like territorial control and planet development and shit that I'm no where near getting into, but that isn't the point. 
 
The point is that you don't have to be concerned with teaching yourself those things to enjoy the game. 
 
EVE is a game all about player communication and interaction. if you aren't willing to do that, you are going to fail. Everything you need to know to get you started down a specific line of class development, and I use that term loosely, is readily available to you. You can get everything you need to start building yourself up as a soldier, a miner, an industrialist, or anything else. It's all unscripted, how you make you want to make your riches is up to you.  
 
And make no mistake, this is a game about wealth acclamation. If you aren't doing it for cash, you're doing it wrong. 
 
But to get back on topic, the resources to start down a career path are available to you. You need to use that as a launching pad to get into a corporation, many of which seem willing to accept newcomers with open arms. I think the misconception some people make is that getting into a corporation, or really a guild in any MMO, is going to be difficult if you don't have something of perceived value to offer to a group. This is EVE online though, so you already have something to offer.

Money is power. Resources are power. People are power. Those are the rules of EVE. 
 
When you boot up the game you already have one of the most valuable commodities in the entire game. You. No one is going to conquer the universe on their own. Even if you do get a few trusted allies together and start a corporation you aren't going to get very far unless you have someone to do the dirty work. People need couriers, escorts, miners, scouts, everything and anything you can think of. What people need most are bodies, people to bring in the revenue.  
 
Because bodies are such a vital asset, corporations aren't going to let you go to waste. A lot of them will, upfront, say they will train you in your specific field of interest. You want to mine? Here, buy this ship from us at half the regular price and let use teach you how to get the most out of it. PvP? Even better! Let's take this into private chat and discuss your role on the front line. 
 
Now, once again, I'm speaking somewhat from ignorance here. Perhaps my perception of EVE is slightly more fantastic in it's scope than the reality, but so far it really doesn't seem like it. 
 
What I see in EVE is what so many other MMOs try but repeatedly fail to create. Possibilities. I look at this game, this world, that CCP has created and all I can see are the places I could go and the shit I could get up to. This is a game in which what you do next is entirely up to you. There is no A to B. You aren't being lead from zone to zone, following the ghostly carrot of levels with no real reward. 
 
I chased that carrot once, but then I bit down on it only to get a mouth full of sand. 
 
EVE is just different. Fresh.  
 
It really brings into perspective why all these other MMOs have come and gone over the years. They keep chasing that level train, the WoW train, but to what end? WoW succeeds because it offers up the best perceived reward, but that's because Blizzard is Blizzard. You want to see more of what Blizzard has to offer, you want to exist in that world. When other people step up to deliver that kind of experience, they can't. They aren't Blizzard. 
 
What EVE offers is something tangible. You can own something, something with actual, albeit virtual, worth. In WoW you can have your rare items, but there is always going to be someone with the same or superior gear. In EVE you can own space. You own a part of the actual game world. And not only that, but you own a part of the game world that every other player in EVE can no longer own. The very fact that this piece of territory belongs to you and your corporation means that you've not only made an impact upon your own wealth and resource pool, but you've made an impact on the world. Every person that plays or will play EVE will now exist in a world in which this patch of territory belongs to you. This is your fucking land, and that means something. 
 
Well, that is until someone decides to take it from you. 
 
Now this has all been fun and whatever, but the only reason I even took the time to write this down was because CCP was doing server maintenance. 
 
They are no longer doing server maintenance. 
 
Bai.  

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WHAT IN THE MOTHER OF FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE

 
I've been passively interested in EVE for the past year or so, but I never took the plunge because I kept hearing how difficult it is to get into. You hear all these cool stories about corporate wars and back alley espionage however it is surrounded by this impentreable barrier of numbers and graphs that only those most dedicated to dedication will be able to even hope penetrating. 
 
No Caption Provided

That's the perception anyway. 
 
What i encountered in my first day of EVE is quite the opposite. 
 
First, let's just talk about getting into EVE. After you create your character you are immediately dropped into a ship and the first thing you see is a tutorial. This tutorial teaches you how to navigate space, how to fight, and how to perform various other basic activities in EVE along with giving you some free items to boot. After docking at a station for the first time and figuring out what's all up in there you may notice something else. 
 
Oh what's this at the bottom left side of my screen? It appears to be a chat box. 
 
But this is no ordinary chat box. This is the world's best fucking chat box ever. It's like all the other MMO's out there, it's basically an in game IRC. You put in the channel you want to talk in and boom, viola, you are there. That's not the cool part though, that would be the Rookie channel it is automatically tuned in to. There are actually player volunteers recognized by CCP, along with other regular players, that just sit in there ready to answer questions. I entered a question only to have the exact answer I needed within twenty seconds. 
 
It's fucking great. 
 
Now i've heard, through the grapevine let's say, that joining a corporation reigns in the same benefits of having a veteran support group to call on as well as, you know, fiscal assets. For someone like me though, someone who maybe isn't ready to just toss my loyalty over to whoever is hiring, having this instant support hotline is fucking great. 
 
Did I mention that there is an in-game internet browser as well? The tutorial links you right to a fucking wiki page for extended detail on certain items. Shit is crazy as hell. 
  

But now let's get to the part you all came for.

 
EVE is actually a fantastic product, you just have to be in the market for it. There really isn't that much difference between EVE and, let's say, a World of Warcraft. The only significant difference is that players govern everything. 
   
Now I did just start playing yesterday, so of course my view is going to be a bit skewed towards the naive, but I think I've gotten the basics of how this world operates. The mechanics are incredibly similar to any other MMO on the market, it's how they are used that make it all seem so foreign. For instance, you still farm. You can go hunt down hostile NPCs, or hunt down other players. You still grind, but you are now grinding your mining laser against an asteroid for resources. You still craft, but now you are crafting goods to trade on the intergalactic market. 
 
Yeah, it goes a bit deeper than that. There are things like territorial control and planet development and shit that I'm no where near getting into, but that isn't the point. 
 
The point is that you don't have to be concerned with teaching yourself those things to enjoy the game. 
 
EVE is a game all about player communication and interaction. if you aren't willing to do that, you are going to fail. Everything you need to know to get you started down a specific line of class development, and I use that term loosely, is readily available to you. You can get everything you need to start building yourself up as a soldier, a miner, an industrialist, or anything else. It's all unscripted, how you make you want to make your riches is up to you.  
 
And make no mistake, this is a game about wealth acclamation. If you aren't doing it for cash, you're doing it wrong. 
 
But to get back on topic, the resources to start down a career path are available to you. You need to use that as a launching pad to get into a corporation, many of which seem willing to accept newcomers with open arms. I think the misconception some people make is that getting into a corporation, or really a guild in any MMO, is going to be difficult if you don't have something of perceived value to offer to a group. This is EVE online though, so you already have something to offer.

Money is power. Resources are power. People are power. Those are the rules of EVE. 
 
When you boot up the game you already have one of the most valuable commodities in the entire game. You. No one is going to conquer the universe on their own. Even if you do get a few trusted allies together and start a corporation you aren't going to get very far unless you have someone to do the dirty work. People need couriers, escorts, miners, scouts, everything and anything you can think of. What people need most are bodies, people to bring in the revenue.  
 
Because bodies are such a vital asset, corporations aren't going to let you go to waste. A lot of them will, upfront, say they will train you in your specific field of interest. You want to mine? Here, buy this ship from us at half the regular price and let use teach you how to get the most out of it. PvP? Even better! Let's take this into private chat and discuss your role on the front line. 
 
Now, once again, I'm speaking somewhat from ignorance here. Perhaps my perception of EVE is slightly more fantastic in it's scope than the reality, but so far it really doesn't seem like it. 
 
What I see in EVE is what so many other MMOs try but repeatedly fail to create. Possibilities. I look at this game, this world, that CCP has created and all I can see are the places I could go and the shit I could get up to. This is a game in which what you do next is entirely up to you. There is no A to B. You aren't being lead from zone to zone, following the ghostly carrot of levels with no real reward. 
 
I chased that carrot once, but then I bit down on it only to get a mouth full of sand. 
 
EVE is just different. Fresh.  
 
It really brings into perspective why all these other MMOs have come and gone over the years. They keep chasing that level train, the WoW train, but to what end? WoW succeeds because it offers up the best perceived reward, but that's because Blizzard is Blizzard. You want to see more of what Blizzard has to offer, you want to exist in that world. When other people step up to deliver that kind of experience, they can't. They aren't Blizzard. 
 
What EVE offers is something tangible. You can own something, something with actual, albeit virtual, worth. In WoW you can have your rare items, but there is always going to be someone with the same or superior gear. In EVE you can own space. You own a part of the actual game world. And not only that, but you own a part of the game world that every other player in EVE can no longer own. The very fact that this piece of territory belongs to you and your corporation means that you've not only made an impact upon your own wealth and resource pool, but you've made an impact on the world. Every person that plays or will play EVE will now exist in a world in which this patch of territory belongs to you. This is your fucking land, and that means something. 
 
Well, that is until someone decides to take it from you. 
 
Now this has all been fun and whatever, but the only reason I even took the time to write this down was because CCP was doing server maintenance. 
 
They are no longer doing server maintenance. 
 
Bai.  

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Do I need to have a lot of patience to get any enjoyment from this game?

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@CaLe: It all depends on what you're looking to get out of it. 
  
But then again, all MMOs require some level of patience. If you're willing to invest at least then I'd say it is at least worth trying out.
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Good blog, man. 
 
Eve looks cool, but everything about it seems complex and time consuming. I look forward to reading more about your experience.

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Great blog post. I've been thinking about trying EVE for quite some time now and this post only encouraged that thought.

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It's nice to see some fresh opinions, however the longer you play the more jaded you will become. Because skills are governed by time instead of experience, you literally won't be advanced enough to engage in any of the high level stuff for months, if not years. That was always the most frustrating thing about Eve for me, I felt like I was advancing much faster than the game was willing to recognise. I had enough money and experience to buy the ship and equipment that I wanted, but then couldn't use them because I had not reached the right level in an apparently trivial skill. 
 
But I'm glad that you are enjoying it. Eve is a very specific kind of game, you either love it or you hate it. It's good to know that new players can still start out and get excited about it :)

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Great blog.  And keep us updated on your experience please :).  I've been curious about EVE for a while too.  Just seems so damn intimidating and uber time intensive to really get into.  The setting and concept are so damn awesome though to me.  This is a monthly subscription type MMO right?
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Glad You liked it, i hopped back in for my 5 day comeback trial, its still a great game but i just dont have the time to commit to it.

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@Sweep said:
" Because skills are governed by time instead of experience, you literally won't be advanced enough to engage in any of the high level stuff for months, if not years.  
They are wiping out that system entirely very very soon. 
 
I'm willing to wait it out until that happens though. You know, just doin' what I do.
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I just feel so warm when someone new actually knows why things are the way they are and what place you have in the world of EvE. A really great blog post man, it really helps those who thinks about EvE, but never get into it because it looks too "looks like an excel-game". That's one of the few worst comments I read about the game. But you really looks past that facade, and looked at what it had to offer. And as someone posted above, would be fun to read some more about your experiences. Fly safe //Nila Talluc

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Good luck brother. I'm gonna wait until Dust 514 finally comes out. That way I can play EVE without actually having to play EVE.

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@Althox: I'm actually glad to hear that i wasn't completely off base. Now I know I don't look like a complete idiot and EVE is apparently exactly what I thought it was which is great news.
 
Since so many people seem interested in this, and because I would genuinely like to drum up a bit more interest in this game on GB, I think I'll post some kind of update in a week or two once I get a better handle on a few of the more complex mechanics.
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Be sure to join out chat-channel ingame. If someone else is in, just ask away with your questions.

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I hope you end up writting more about this stuff. I've been interested in EVE for a while now reading all the crazy stuff that goes on, just never really wanted to get sucked in I guess.

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As a fellow semi-new player I thought I'd share some things I've learned.
 
The default overview sucks and here's how to make it better. 
 http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Overview_Setup  
 
 If you are flying into low-sec or nullsec be sure to pull up local into it's own window that you can see all the time so that you're aware of who's in the system with you. 
 
Always follow the golden rule of EVE: Only fly what you can afford to lose. 
 
Really looking forward to your next blog, until then fly safe!

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Pffft, come back to us when you pull of a bank heist of at least $20,000 dollars.

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See you in space, cowboy.
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I didn't find it confusing so much as I found it slow. Plus, the in-game browser was busted on the Mac version, and the chat was a bit whacky too.

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@extremeradical said:
" I didn't find it confusing so much as I found it slow. Plus, the in-game browser was busted on the Mac version, and the chat was a bit whacky too. "
I'm actually playing the Mac version and I haven't really encountered anything like that. It can't run flash or anything, but overall it gets done what it needs to. I've even been able to access IRC chatrooms with it. 
 
The only problem I've had on the technical side is that it doesn't seem possible to exit fullscreen mode.
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@LordXavierBritish said:
" @extremeradical said:
" I didn't find it confusing so much as I found it slow. Plus, the in-game browser was busted on the Mac version, and the chat was a bit whacky too. "
I'm actually playing the Mac version and I haven't really encountered anything like that. It can't run flash or anything, but overall it gets done what it needs to. I've even been able to access IRC chatrooms with it.  The only problem I've had on the technical side is that it doesn't seem possible to exit fullscreen mode. "
Awesome. The client being busted around the time I started playing really fucked with me. It wasn't the only problem I had, but it was really annoying. 
 
This, combined with the fact that they're revamping the whole learning system might get me to come back.
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@extremeradical said:
" @LordXavierBritish said:
" @extremeradical said:
" I didn't find it confusing so much as I found it slow. Plus, the in-game browser was busted on the Mac version, and the chat was a bit whacky too. "
I'm actually playing the Mac version and I haven't really encountered anything like that. It can't run flash or anything, but overall it gets done what it needs to. I've even been able to access IRC chatrooms with it.  The only problem I've had on the technical side is that it doesn't seem possible to exit fullscreen mode. "
Awesome. The client being busted around the time I started playing really fucked with me. It wasn't the only problem I had, but it was really annoying.  This, combined with the fact that they're revamping the whole learning system might get me to come back. "
You know if it is the time commitment/generally slow pace of the game that turned you off the first time you should really check this widget out. 
 
I've been playing throughout the day just taking on missions, but i will also do a quick log in when my skill time elapses on occasion to fill it back up to the 24 hour maximum.
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Great blog post. Really sums up what EVE is all about.

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This blog made me renew my subscription. Seriously, it just happened.

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@extremeradical said:
" This blog made me renew my subscription. Seriously, it just happened. "
I hope you find it a bit more willing to play on your machine this time. I'm going to feel really bad otherwise.
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@LordXavierBritish: First off, all the text problems have been fixed. Second, my Corp has allied with some dudes who like to start wars, so that's weird, and third, I am now rocking a brand new ship. 
 
Yeah, this is going to be way better than last time.
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just seen on the steam sale its only £3.74 so i just searched on GB and found this blog post ! 
Now im just goin to buy it :D
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I'm grateful that you boiled the game down for me in this line: 
 
@LordXavierBritish said:

And make no mistake, this is a game about wealth acclamation. If you aren't doing it for cash, you're doing it wrong."
I don't play my MMOs to amass wealth, so you have confirmed that this game isn't for me.  That's not to say that it's not a good game, just not a game for me. 
 
Also, Eve certainly isn't the first, or the only, or the most mainstream MMO to have an autojoined help channel or an ingame web browser :P
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Well, welcome to EVE. As long as you don't get decced by us, it should continue being fun for you ;D

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@melcene said:

" I'm grateful that you boiled the game down for me in this line: 
 
@LordXavierBritish said:

And make no mistake, this is a game about wealth acclamation. If you aren't doing it for cash, you're doing it wrong."
I don't play my MMOs to amass wealth, so you have confirmed that this game isn't for me.  That's not to say that it's not a good game, just not a game for me.  Also, Eve certainly isn't the first, or the only, or the most mainstream MMO to have an autojoined help channel or an ingame web browser :P "
To be honest about this wealth is power thing, it's partially true, but that doesn't mean that you'll have to have huge stacks of ISK to be able to do anything. There are allot of PvP Corporations out there that would gladly provide you with all the right equipment you'd need. And you'd probably be able to earn some amount of ISK through piracy and killing people passing through the systems. So there are always something that you can make money out of, but it doesn't mean that you need to be wealthy, to have fun! ;)
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Topics like this make me happy i've been playing this game and enjoying it for the last 8 months or so.

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EVE online the MMORPG you play while you're working... and playing other games.