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Jesse...it's time to build.

It’s probably been a solid decade since I built a computer. It hasn’t been an everyday occurrence, at any rate: I built one during college and a a micro-ATX for my mom a few years later, and that’s basically been it. I was going to do it again for my last computer, but I wound up founding an aggressively-priced prebuilt system on Newegg and decided to just spring for that rather than take the time to slap all the parts together. So here we are in 2015 and while I didn’t have any major issues with my i7 920 in gaming, I was definitely starting to feel the pinch when it comes to things like lacking USB 3.0/3.1 ports or having a headphone jack on the front of my case that hasn’t worked in four years. So...it was time to build.

I’ve been pondering the build for a while now, and with the recent release of Skylake chips, it felt like the time was right. And before you send me that “It’s not a big enough improvement over last gen!/Next gen will be so much better!” comment, yeah: I know. It feels like that’s been the zeitgeist in the CPU scene over the last year or so that I’ve been looking into them, and I just wasn’t really willing to wait until the next tick or tock or tack or whatever’s on the roadmap. Even more than a new CPU, I really wanted a new mobo and case, so whatever increases are coming down the pipe for CPUs I’m happy to forego in favor of getting this done now.

a tiny drive
a tiny drive

I already had a decent PSU and a 770GTX in my current machine, and as I mostly play at 1080p still I didn’t feel an immediate need to upgrade the video card. This is what I wound up actually buying for the build:

I already had five drives in my current build, including two SSDs, but that little m.2 drive seemed neat enough to warrant spending an extra 110 bucks on it, especially since it meant that I’d be able to install the OS without having to wipe one of my current drives. Those little suckers are neat as boot drives! A dollar a gig isn’t an ideal ratio for a drive at this point, but I don’t regret the splurge.

so much room for activities
so much room for activities

As far as the actual construction of the thing goes, I absolutely love the case that I got. My last case was a mid-tower and fitting the 770gtx in there was far tighter a squeeze than I would’ve liked, but it slid into the full tower with ease. Clipping the hard drives and SSDs into their little plastic slots in the 750D was easy as hell when I got the hang of it, and it keeps all of the cables out of the main chamber to improve airflow.

The main heart-in-the-throat moment, as always, was attaching the heatsink to the CPU. I had never used a heatsink that required a brace before, and while I ultimately got the Cooler Master cooler on there, the process was more frustrating than it should’ve been, mostly because the instructions were majestically impossible to follow, arriving in some Ikea-inspired, pictures-only form rather than actually having words and such. That might’ve been fine had it not been a modular design intended to install to multiple chipset types, but as it happens I didn’t get very far until I dug up a really handy Youtube vid that was a better guide than the official instructions were, so thanks to this dude I finally got the thing battened down:

After that, though, the RAM and M.2 drive clipped in relatively effortlessly, and I was ready to (try) to boot it. I was porting over the PSU from my old case, but since the Skylake processor has built-in video, I decided to leave my video card alone in the old case just in case anything went wrong.

When the thing posted, I thought that was pretty great! When I started running into errors installing Win7 from a flash drive, I thought that wasn’t pretty great! Apparently the “missing cd/dvd driver” error has been going around for some years, so kudos to MS for never fixing it. I tried a few different flash drives and none of them got past that error (and yes I was trying in a USB 2.0 slot) and looked up a bunch of other solutions.

a little dusty but at least it's covered up
a little dusty but at least it's covered up

Anyway, I procured a (legitimate!) Windows 8.1 key from a friend and quickly learned that Windows 8 is a horrible nightmare that should be avoided at all costs. An install from classicshell.net made things a bit better, but I’m itching to get back to Windows 10, which seemed to have some neat recording/streaming tools when I was fooling around with it on my old PC. I’ll probably just buy it at some point and format the C drive again. Easy come, easy go, especially in the era of having everything in The Cloud™. Getting up and running from a fresh install is a lot less taxing than it was in the past, especially since you just point Steam at your old install directory and it'll find all the games without having to re-download them. Had less luck on that point with GOG Galaxy and Witcher 3, which insisted on a complete redownload.

And that’s my story! A quick and relatively easy build aside from the Windows hiccups, all of which are worth dealing with rather than having to deal with some overpriced hunk of junk with an unusable OS from some other company.

Since most games are GPU bound still, I haven’t noticed a crazy improvement in visuals during gaming, but it was interesting reinstalling everything and having the presets redone. MGSV is now fine with pretty much everything turned all the way up, including VSync, while Dying Light is...still kind of a mess. I may bump it up to a 970 at some point in the next couple of months, which I figure should be overkill for playing at 1080p on my TV with an occasional foray into 4k gaming on my monitor for the next couple of years, but maybe I’ll just wait until the next new video card thing to come along and struggle along with 60 fps instead of 80 or whatever.

So, TL;DR: I really like the Corsair case that I got, and computer building can be fun if you have a bunch of money and a spare evening. Try it with your friend, or your mom!

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The Cooler Master 212 Evo is such a piece of shit to install. It's literally kept me from upgrading parts in my PC because I don't want to have to take it out and then put it back in. An SSD can wait until I'm ready for a whole new build.

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Yeah, I'm happy with having it in there, but holy shit those instructions were basically toilet paper for all the good they were to me.

The Cooler Master 212 Evo is such a piece of shit to install. It's literally kept me from upgrading parts in my PC because I don't want to have to take it out and then put it back in. An SSD can wait until I'm ready for a whole new build.

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16GB DDR4 seems like a whole lot, I'm surprised the prices for it are already this low.

Cable management!

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In only a few agonizing steps!

That's the Corsair 650D-1 btw, basically the predecessor of your enclosure.

I'm hoping my 2011 PC build is going to last me until early next year at least. I am a huge fan of tool-less designs and I will definitely factor that in any future builds I do.

I'm also a big supporter of putting different types of media on different drives and separating the OS drive from the other drives. I hadn't thought of a flash boot drive like yours, that definitely seems like a cool thing to have.

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@hassun: Yeah, 16gig seems like a smart minimum at this point unless you're really chunked for cash. It's super cheap compared to the last time I built.

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Why didn't you run those cables behind the motherboard tray? It would look a lot better.

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LEDs are all the rage.

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As is a jazzy and tasteful 80s carpet. And velvet curtains...

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Just lazy! This is going to be under my desk and I doubt I'll be looking at it all that much unless things go awry.

Why didn't you run those cables behind the motherboard tray? It would look a lot better.

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@hassun said:

16GB DDR4 seems like a whole lot, I'm surprised the prices for it are already this low.

Cable management!

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I have no idea how you do that. You sir, are a wizard.

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@rorie: Oh don't get me wrong I also have 16GB even though this build is from 2011. But of course that that's DDR3. I did not expect DDR4 to drop in price this rapidly.

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@rorie isn't windows 10 still a free upgrade? As in if you are on 8 you should be able to just install it?

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@TechnoSyndrome: Oh yeah, the Hyper Evo is a bitch and half to install, especially on a mid-tower case.

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I don't think 970 is overkill for 1080p, I think it is the sweet spot right now, hell my 780ti barely keeps up at 1080p 60 with Witcher 3.

As for cooler, for me It was between CM hyper evo 212 and Scythe Ashura, I picked Ashura and it was relatively easy to install, phew.

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@bollard: It's really simple with the right case. You just run all of your cables behind the motherboard tray, do a try run before hooking everything up, then tuck all the cables in when you're finished.

Having a case with good cable management features can make all the difference, though. There needs to be plenty of holes, hopefully with rubber grommets, and lots of space behind the motherboard tray.

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Name first name is Jesse, and I got really confused when I saw this subject line from Matt Rorie in my email notifications. :)

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@rorie isn't windows 10 still a free upgrade? As in if you are on 8 you should be able to just install it?

This is some wonky 8.1 professional edition thing that apparently no longer supports the upgrade. It's fine, the OS is going to last me like eight years, so I'm OK to pay for it.

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Never got the hate for Windows 8, I used it for quite a while and never had a problem with it. The start menu thing was always kinda clunky, but the only time I ever saw it was when I pushed the Windows button and started typing in whatever file or program I wanted to open up.

I have a 970 and I play games on a 1080p 144Hz monitor, Vsync off. It might be a bit overkill for that resolution, but it also means my video card will be running pretty much everything well for the next several years. My processor is an i5 3470 from 2012, though - it's not a bottleneck right now and I doubt it will be next year, but I should be giving thought to building something new in 2017 or 2018.

My case, though - that thing is crap. I'm still using the first PC I built and I went cheap on the case and it shows. There's a USB port on the front that works and that's about it. I guess I could buy new case and move everything to it, but I'd rather just buy a powered USB expansion thing.

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@rorie This might be off topic a little bit, but related to upgrading.

What do you make the Fallout 4 System Requirements? I have a 7870, which is listed as the minimum requirement. A few people were raising eyebrows over that since the minimum NVIDIA card is significantly weaker than the 7870. People were saying to just hang tight and wait and see how it performs in early previews.

I'm a real novice when it when it comes to this stuff. Do you think I should be looking at upgrading my 7870? I'm not that greedy of a PC gamer (can't afford to be). I'd like to play at 60fps on at least High settings, but people were saying the upgrade I was looking at (R9 380) isn't much of an upgrade over my 7870. Unfortunately, I'm in Canada and the price of a 390 around here is around $450, which is pushing it for me. The 290 varies between $350 and $400, which might be easier to swallow for me, but is it enough of an upgrade?

Help me, Rorie! I'm drowning in options!

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@rorie said:

Just lazy! This is going to be under my desk and I doubt I'll be looking at it all that much unless things go awry.

@chubbychimp14 said:

Why didn't you run those cables behind the motherboard tray? It would look a lot better.

Proper cable management not only looks better but it's better for air flow as well.
Regardless, congrats on the new build @rorie!

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I just got a new build too, and was lucky enough to get a faulty GPU out of the box. But now that things are sorted out, I'm pretty happy with it. Got a gtx970, I5, 8 gigs etc etc, running on a 500W PSU.

The card runs really cool even with all the hell heat I get where I live, which is pretty good. Can pretty much 'max out' anything at 1080p right now.

Anyways, feels good to have a new PC - Assassin's Creed 3 looks kinda good at 60 fps haha!

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@batmanbatman: You'll spend the next two or three days not actually playing anything but loading up dozens of games to marvel at how smoothly they run. Amiright? :D

Well, that's what I do anyway.

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@batmanbatman: You'll spend the next two or three days not actually playing anything but loading up dozens of games to marvel at how smoothly they run. Amiright? :D

Well, that's what I do anyway.

hehe, yep, oh yeah... I'm past that though, playing the Witcher 3 and MGS5 now.

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@hassun: I could never do that in my case.

I should have never bought a $60 case. It sucks, it's noisy, and there are wires everywhere.

Oh well, just means I won't make that mistake in my next build.

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Going to be doing this for the first time soon. Little nervous!

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Nice job Rorie! My headphone jack doesn't work on the front of my PC either and im approaching a decade since Ive built myself a PC...maybe in a couple years when I firmly hit that decade mark ill consider a rebuild.

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@blackout62: We have to make mistakes to learn. I made plenty of mistakes in that build as well.

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Great job Rorie,

I built one 2 years ago with a Corsair case, I love some of their designs. I used the air 540 which puts the power supply in a separate compartment from the (windowed) motherboard compartment, which gives this type of effect:

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Corsair Air 540

It makes cable management very simple, especially with the radiator bracket on the top.

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Haha, pretty neat article and it couldn't be timed better as i just rebuild my system and got the mid sized version of this case (the obsidian series 450D) and the exact same cooler!! Love the look of the case and the cooler is always welcome over the stock cooler that comes with a CPU. Though his RAM and CPU/MB combo are a step above what i got.

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@rorie said:
@shinboy630 said:

@rorie isn't windows 10 still a free upgrade? As in if you are on 8 you should be able to just install it?

This is some wonky 8.1 professional edition thing that apparently no longer supports the upgrade. It's fine, the OS is going to last me like eight years, so I'm OK to pay for it.

All editions of 8.1 pro (and home) should get upgrade rights for a year. You won't get upgrade notifications if you're on a corporate network using WSUS, but you still have rights.

The editions that don't get upgrade rights are 8.1 with Bing, or enterprise editions. And enterprise editions aren't legitimate for use at home ;)

Keep in mind that Windows 10 will scrape just about any type of data you generate and send it to Microsoft for use by them and their partners. This include what apps you use, when you use them, the data you enter into them, the websites you use, what you buy, everything you read, and so on. It can all be turned off, however, so do a little reading if this bothers you. (I'd never use it in a business environment, but at home it's usually fine.)

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I think some of you would have a heart attack if you saw the inside of my machine. I once cut chunks off a video card to make it not block sata ports...

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@retromodgames said:

@TechnoSyndrome: Oh yeah, the Hyper Evo is a bitch and half to install, especially on a mid-tower case.

Yeah I've got literally 1mm of clearance with that thing in my mid-sized case. If I sneeze it'll bump against the side. Fantastic cooler though.

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How long did it take to boot with that m.2 drive?

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@rorie: Rorie Windows 8.1 pro should update to 10. You can use the media creation tool to force the upgrade. You can also create back up media for 10 to a flash drive. Once you upgrade and windows 10 is active you can use a flash drive and do a clean install. You just skip the cd key during the install and once you sign in with your microsoft account your motherboard will be recognized and windows 10 should activate automatically

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@hassun: that first pic is more how i do my cable management heh. It's not even that bad, but i do agree a super tidycase is a thing to behold.

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@rorie This might be off topic a little bit, but related to upgrading.

What do you make the Fallout 4 System Requirements? I have a 7870, which is listed as the minimum requirement. A few people were raising eyebrows over that since the minimum NVIDIA card is significantly weaker than the 7870. People were saying to just hang tight and wait and see how it performs in early previews.

I'm a real novice when it when it comes to this stuff. Do you think I should be looking at upgrading my 7870? I'm not that greedy of a PC gamer (can't afford to be). I'd like to play at 60fps on at least High settings, but people were saying the upgrade I was looking at (R9 380) isn't much of an upgrade over my 7870. Unfortunately, I'm in Canada and the price of a 390 around here is around $450, which is pushing it for me. The 290 varies between $350 and $400, which might be easier to swallow for me, but is it enough of an upgrade?

Help me, Rorie! I'm drowning in options!

I wouldn't worry too much about upgrading unless you're dying to play something maxed out. My girlfriend has my old Nvidia 6700 from a few years back in her case and honestly, even MGSV looks pretty good on her system.

I don't know much about Radeons, unfortunately, but I usually find that googling "VIDEO CARD MODEL Review" and looking at the benchmarks to be a pretty decent indicator of how much of an improvement something will be. The 970 for me would be around a 15 fps improvement across the board over the 770, which would be worth the money for me, but I'm not as clear on the ATI side of things, unfortunately.

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Going to be doing this for the first time soon. Little nervous!

I would really highly recommending canvassing your circle of friends and finding someone who's built a PC before to help you out for the build. My old college roommate supervised me and it was a huge help when I had questions!

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@lukeweizer: I've never owned one (had a 6870 and a 4870 though) but a Google search tells me that an R9 270 is a rebranded 7870. It wouldn't surprise me as I've had a 7950 and AMD are still selling rebadged versions of them as the 280.

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I have saved up around $1000 and plan to spend all of it on Black Friday/Cyber Monday to build my first PC. Hopefully Newegg have great deals by then.

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I have that case...I like it. But, now 19 months later I'm not not on the "big case" side of things; I wish I had bought a microATX case and MicoATX mobo.

I'm holding off on updates until "CannonLake" 10nm architecture (I think?). Intel will issue a new series of chipsets and a different socket layoutas compared to X99 when that occurs, or maybe no socket---a gasp from the builders out there. Anyway, I really don't feel like upgrading when I just built a Z97 system 20 months ago. So I'm skipping X99, and might be building my next machine as late as 2017. Of course I will be building other machines for fun, so I should get "my fix" that way.

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@thepoark said:

Name first name is Jesse, and I got really confused when I saw this subject line from Matt Rorie in my email notifications. :)

Exact same thing happened to me!

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Great job Rorie,

I built one 2 years ago with a Corsair case, I love some of their designs. I used the air 540 which puts the power supply in a separate compartment from the (windowed) motherboard compartment, which gives this type of effect:

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Corsair Air 540

It makes cable management very simple, especially with the radiator bracket on the top.

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I love how stupid big they are. Basically a double-wide tower.

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I was just thinking of putting together my first gaming PC last night. I'd probably hold off til next year.

So when should I wait for this "next-gen" stuff to hit? Not in a rush at the moment but I don't wanna build something before generational leaps happen!

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@mrplatitude said:

Going to be doing this for the first time soon. Little nervous!

Don't be afraid at all. Here is some really basic advice

Do some research. Make a list of what you think you want (see PC Parts Picker). Watch the reviews (if there are any) on very major part you plan to use. This is not as daunting as it sounds, and you will be very happy when a review tell you something you wish you had known.

Second, watch videos on YouTube of people building PCs. I mean watch 15 or twenty of them, if the person building has 100,000 subscribers or above they are probably good....don't watch scrubs. There is a TON of terrible builders who just perpetuate 'old wives tales' and 'stupid advice', but I have advice below of who to watch.

Third, relax. When you start out you will know nothing and it will all seem like a big hassle. But as you plan, research and watch people build PC you will feel you confidence build.

- There are some YouTuber who are industry people who talk about PC parts and build system all the time. These are nice, understandable, and knowledgeable people.

- There are some websites that just review parts

- There are two major PC parts seller in North Amerca (well aside from Amazon). They both show off new producst and also do video product reviews and builds, the builds and advice are awesome. Just understand theese stores are building on a theme like, "All AMD Parts" or "All CoolerMaster PSU, CPU Cooler, and Case Fans". They are selling parts, but hwo to put them together is covered when they do a build video

- Research what you should build or can build.

  • Logical Increments - This site shows you very simple parts lists that go together locally for a particular price point...it just advice...it gives you a starting point for research parts. It is just AUTOMATED advice, you take that advice with a grain of salt, but for a newbie ist helpul for staring a process. I would never follow it advice to the letter...its just an automated tool...but you have to start somewhere.
  • PC Parts Picker - Really an indispensable resource for anyone building a PC. A a fill-in the blanks tool for building a typical PC. This tool is super helpful because it has a bit of automated "advice" making sure the wattage you needs is covered my the power supply you bought, or the motherboard you want fits in the case you want. On your fist build I woudl recommend using PC Parts Picker to just keep yourself organized. Its also a user group where people show off their builds and ask/answer advice questions.
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@lukeweizer: I've never owned one (had a 6870 and a 4870 though) but a Google search tells me that an R9 270 is a rebranded 7870. It wouldn't surprise me as I've had a 7950 and AMD are still selling rebadged versions of them as the 280.

I've been told that the 300 lines is just rehashed 200's, which is why I'd go for a 290 over a 390. I'll wait and see how the preview performances go.

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Rorie, build one of these!! Your back will thank you! I exercise, but I still had back issues with hours in a desk job and then coming home to game for hours.

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Obviously, your domain is your domain and use whatever makes you feel great. Still, if you're looking for something outside of parts to compliment your new build and you're not treating yourself--whether it's pre-built or DYI, consider one for the long-term.

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I have never built a machine myself, and honestly didn't really see myself building one. But here I am, few weeks before Fallout, and a lot of money to blow. So I have decided to get myself a rig. For as mush as people talk about the process as: "Really not that difficult when you first get started", I still feel a nervous breakdown waiting around every corner. What confuses me the most is the differences between parts of the same type. Like, why can I find some i5 cpu's cheaper than some i7's? And what is even the differences tween the dozens of different i5's and i7's.

Other times I get confused on the relationship between price vs performance. Is this video card worth the extra 100$, the number only goes up 970 to 980. Or am just throwing money into a bottomless pit. But the big one, that really gets me worried, is rather or not my component fits together.

I have build a list, and would really appreciate if someone would look it over. I'm very open to suggestions, and not afraid of ridicule. I just one a nice machine that will keep me going for years. Also, I would like to get 16 gb of ram. So do you buy two 8 gb, or is that a different thing all together.

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600k

MB: Asus Z170 Pro Gaming

RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR4 2400 (8GB)

SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB

HDD: Western Digital Black 2TB WD2003FZEX

VC: MSI GTX 970 4G

PSU: Corsair CX600M 600 watt 80 Plus Bronze

Case: Nzxt Source 340

Cooloer: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

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@maxopower: If you have an extra 70 bucks to spare, the i7-6700k might be the better bet for you! It's a smidge faster overall and will probably be better futureproofing if you want your computer to last five or six or seven years. You can always overclock either of them, though. The main difference between the two is hyperthreading. Each of them have four physical cores, but the i7 models have hyperthreading, which makes your OS treat it as though it has double the amount of actual cores. I suspect the difference here is more pronounced when you're looking at dual-core and 4x core machines, but more is usually better, regardless.

As far as the RAM goes, you'll want to buy two sticks of 8 GB if you want 16 GB and place them in the appropriate slots. Most motherboards have four slots for RAM which are colorcoded, so you'll usually want to put two RAM chips into the first and third slots, or fill all four of them. You'll most likely want to make sure that all of the RAM chips are of the same make and model to avoid any weird voltage issues, though. 16gb should be more than enough for anyone who's not doing any crazy Photoshop work or editing huge video files.

Another area to splurge might be a tower case like the one I got! Not mandatory but if this is your first build, having all the extra room to work is a big bonus. I really, really like the case I bought, and it's not that much bigger than a mid tower assuming you're putting it under a desk or something.

If it's your first build, I would definitely recommend canvassing your circle of friends and seeing if any of them are available to help out if they've done this before. Definitely helps. I would also really recommend having a flashlight or strong lamp around for the build, as the inside of a case can get pretty dark if you don't have proper lighting.

Let me know if you have any questions!

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