Never thought I'd ever hear a call out to Fester's Quest. I tried really hard to like that game as a kid...nearly impossible to play without a controller with turbo!
Pretty much everything Brad said was how I felt about Quake 2's campaign at the time. Colored Lighting, muzzle climb, etc. Not as disappointed with the multiplayer as he was. It was still fun, but yes, Quake 1 was much, much better to me.
And yes, Rocket Arena started as a Quake 1 mod, 1v1 with a lobby queue.
There is such a reverence for Dark Forces here, but I always found it to be just a decent Doom clone with a Star Wars skin. (And believe me, I loved me some 90's SW games, just see my Profile pic). Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight was infinitely superior in gameplay, map design, story, etc - would love to see that one featured.
Did you even watch the video? He pretty much spends the entire time explaining how Dark Forces is NOT just a Doom clone. And I'm sorry but the super chunky polygonal graphics in DF2 have not aged as well as DF1's 2D sprites.
Yes I did watch the video, does that make my opinion invalid? It is still a Doom clone in my eyes - run at 1000mph through massive horizontal levels shooting enemy sprites with guns cloned directly from Doom style games, all while trying to find the right key. Yes, there was an iteration there with alt fire, and cutscenes, but the gameplay is the same.
Very few games from the 90's have aged well in terms of visuals, but DF2 is still better in virtually every other facet - that is my opinion, is this OK with you?
I think by that logic 90% of shooters from those days are "Doom clones" with the exception of Hexen and Heretic which are some time folding, snake eating it's own tale, variety clones of each other.
Before mouselook a lot of those games played very similarly, and with good reason. Doom paved the way for that style and it's not surprising that a lot of developers decided to base large parts of their own creations on that very successful archetype.
yeah, @thiago123 you can have that opinion. It's just objectively wrong, along with your opinion that "very few games from the 90s have aged well in terms of visuals". I'm pretty sure everyone still loves a lot of 90's 2D pixel graphics, that's why there's like a trillion 8 and 16 bit-style indie games being made these days. @humanity is right. By your logic, every FPS is a Doom clone. I don't think your understanding of video games is deep enough to recognize the nuance that separates FPS's.
There is such a reverence for Dark Forces here, but I always found it to be just a decent Doom clone with a Star Wars skin. (And believe me, I loved me some 90's SW games, just see my Profile pic). Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight was infinitely superior in gameplay, map design, story, etc - would love to see that one featured.
Did you even watch the video? He pretty much spends the entire time explaining how Dark Forces is NOT just a Doom clone. And I'm sorry but the super chunky polygonal graphics in DF2 have not aged as well as DF1's 2D sprites.
Yes I did watch the video, does that make my opinion invalid? It is still a Doom clone in my eyes - run at 1000mph through massive horizontal levels shooting enemy sprites with guns cloned directly from Doom style games, all while trying to find the right key. Yes, there was an iteration there with alt fire, and cutscenes, but the gameplay is the same.
Very few games from the 90's have aged well in terms of visuals, but DF2 is still better in virtually every other facet - that is my opinion, is this OK with you?
I think by that logic 90% of shooters from those days are "Doom clones" with the exception of Hexen and Heretic which are some time folding, snake eating it's own tale, variety clones of each other.
Before mouselook a lot of those games played very similarly, and with good reason. Doom paved the way for that style and it's not surprising that a lot of developers decided to base large parts of their own creations on that very successful archetype.
I'm not really sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing. The logic holds true though, 90% of shooters in those days were indeed Doom clones, however re-skinned, including DF1. This is not news.
There is such a reverence for Dark Forces here, but I always found it to be just a decent Doom clone with a Star Wars skin. (And believe me, I loved me some 90's SW games, just see my Profile pic). Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight was infinitely superior in gameplay, map design, story, etc - would love to see that one featured.
Did you even watch the video? He pretty much spends the entire time explaining how Dark Forces is NOT just a Doom clone. And I'm sorry but the super chunky polygonal graphics in DF2 have not aged as well as DF1's 2D sprites.
Yes I did watch the video, does that make my opinion invalid because it differs from Brad? It is still a Doom clone in my eyes - run at 1000mph through massive horizontal levels shooting enemy sprites with guns cloned directly from Doom style games, all while trying to find the right key. Yes, there was an iteration there with alt fire, and cutscenes, but the gameplay is the same.
Very few games from the 90's have aged well in terms of visuals, but DF2 is still better in virtually every other facet - that is my opinion, is this OK with you?
There is such a reverence for Dark Forces here, but I always found it to be just a decent Doom clone with a Star Wars skin. (And believe me, I loved me some 90's SW games, just see my Profile pic). Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight was infinitely superior in gameplay, map design, story, etc - would love to see that one featured.
I finally played Revengeance earlier this summer, right before MGS5 came out. I enjoyed my time with it and got to the final form of the final boss......then I got checkpointed with no health items. Tried numerous times, but couldn't get past his double health bars AND healing ability. With enough time to learn his patterns I'm sure I would have beaten it, but I decided to save some time and frustration and move on. Maybe someday I'll look up the true ending.
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