All Systems Goku 23

Part of the problem is that Videl is beat up at great length solely to motivate Gohan, not as part of her own story, so to speak. She's the Stuff that has been Touched.

@charli3sc3n356: Please spoiler blur things like this.

Fun fact: "ma" in Japanese means "demon" or "devil", so "Ma Junior" would actually mean "Devil Junior".

Yamcha would destroy Mr.Satan. He's right behind Krillin & Tien if you consider him human.

That Spopovich episode is almost as hardcore as that time Dodoria snapped necks on Namek.

I rate this episode 3 out of 7 dragonballs.

Fair enough. I don't think that's her only purpose in this story arc, but that's a decent enough point.

I'm very excited to hear their reaction to...things that happen moving forward. Very excited.

I mean characters like Piccolo, Gohan, and Krillin still fight and contribute in significant ways even if they aren't center stage. Toriyama could have made Videl a Krillin-level character, instead she becomes the "ideal" Japanese housewife. Blergh.

This is exactly what happens to Videl in Super. It bums me the fuck out, but to be fair they have started course correcting with android 18 and Caulifla/Kale. Although the whole "physically imposing woman must be a lesbian" cliche is in full effect.

Jeff must be The Great Saiyaman now. No ifs, no ands, no buts.

@qrowdyy: Great post but also woof, it bummed me out.

Krillin and 18 are a happy couple. I will not allow you to speak ill of their relationship.

Great episode , without the wrestling part :D

I don't mind the wrestling tangents and comparisons because they often make for funny bits in the podcast, but this episode was a little bit out of control. There were times where they spoke more about some random old wrestling moment that probably only wrestling fans know about than talking about some good segments of the episodes they watched.

Mr. Satans actual name is "mark"

that is all.

I love how DBZ builds up Kaio-Shin as some super powerful being that is above all Kais but this show has tendency to knock down all powerful beings to eventual weak comic relief. The one constant in this series is that there is always someone more powerful...

@dastardry: It doesnt show clearly until Super.

God yeah all of the Dragon Ball iterations has a number of problematic aspect to them, besides the obvious Muten Roshi molesting women, and Mr.Popo.

As many have mentioned women characters are quickly left in the dust, not being expected to fight at all and / or being made into "obedient / naggy housewife" characters, Videl being one of the more egregious examples, she turns into a completely different character with no agency at all. There are some redeeming qualities later on in Super but it's been bad for so long, keeping the fighters mainly an all male, all white/japanese cast in pursuit of raw strength.

I'd love for DB/Z/S to be better , but it is what it is, and for all those problems it's an endlessly optimistic and wholesome show.

Also agree that there's a bit much wrestling history and terminology thrown around in the podcast, it becomes hard to follow. I blame the Mr.Satan dub.

@qrowdyy: I can ignore that cliche if it means we can have plot important gay characters who aren't just there for mean spirited comic relief.

Although I bet you they are massive cowards and never confirm a Caulifla/Kale relationship

18's not in a bad mood, that's just kind of her style and it always has been. She's cool like that.

Also she and Krillin are very happy together and they're the best.

@qrowdyy: On a show like Dragon Ball, that cliche would be an upgrade from the status quo.

Regarding the rest of this arc, imo, it's all downhill from here.

@mayor_mccheese: I think they might enjoy the some of the stuff coming up, like Vegeta, but yeah, pretty soon we're gonna be DEEP into the Buu Saga and... woo boy...

@saltykenny:

So does that mean that "Majin" is "Devil Man"?

@matthewgm: Majin is another translation of Djinn. But for the most part does not have direct translation. More or less meaning one with supernatural powers.

What in the world is going on with the next ASG schedule thumbnail?

"Stop pestering me with this progress reports, BROTHER!'"

Btw, nearly everything Mr. Satan says to Videl on the bed could be a double entendre.

I created a new account just for this:

I don't like the way in which you trash on Yamcha, not sure if the english dub constantly makes a fool of him. But anyways Yamcha would completely beat the shit out or Mr Satan.

Yamcha has the power level of Captain Ginyu (at the very least) after he trained with King Kai. And it is obvious he increased his power level through the Cell Saga.