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Playdate: Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic - Part 01

How much more of Bron will we see? I can't say but let's enjoy our time together while it lasts.

The crew of Giant Bomb invites you to join us for some fun times with video games.

Dec. 29 2020

Cast: Vinny, Alex

Posted by: Vinny

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Hell yeah KOTOR Endurance run lets goooo!

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@vinny: Much better now before Alex was mostly fine but your voice was definitely getting garbled up with the game audio. Everything seems pretty balanced in this version KOTOR__v2__fin__FIN2.mov

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Yes! Mass Alex was phenomenal, so excited to watch Commander Navarro play this one next.

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Omg thank you gents for giving me (yet another) reason to finally play through this classic. How I missed this game being an OG Xbox and Bioware fan is beyond me...

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I also vaguely remember reading some book in the expanded universe (all of which are now non-canon) that if a non-force user tried wielding a lightsaber they would end up cutting themselves up because they wouldn't be able to control it somehow.

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Oh my god, yes. One of my all time favourites. After the void left by Mass Alex' end, I definitely needed this in my life, please do a full play through!

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@hatking said:

I’m extremely interested in KOTOR2. It seems divisive, which generally means it is at least going for it. I think I only rented it, never getting past the first planet. Barely remember anything about it. I think I own it on steam, but just don’t know if I have it in me to play through it myself.

Well, KotOR2 was never finished. And that's really the only knock against it. It may not be the best GAME I ever played, but it has the best story. If you've ever liked an Obsidian game you owe it to yourself to play it.

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THANK YOU FOR THIS BLESSED CONTENT

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Haven't read all the comments so I apologise if this is this is a repeat but I bought this game on Xbox day one and 3 discs in a row had game breaking bugs. 4th disc was fine. Literally from the same shop and on the same day, was I just unlucky or was it a wide spread thing?

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I hope this becomes a series. I would also advise. Manual Save Often. If I remember the auto-saves in this game suck and can put you back hours if you die.

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Bron is the antecessor of Brono in my head cannon.

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KOTOR 2 is still one of my favorite RPGs and what got me into em too.

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@vinny: awesome, sounds great now!

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If you play again, please do something to make the text bigger. It's just unreadably small for me and there's an awful lot of it. Even if it means playing in a lower resolution it would really make it easier to watch.

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Yes! How has this not been remade or a new sequel?

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@alex making a himbo Jedi at the start is the energy I need going into 2021.

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Now this is podracing!

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A game I have always meant to check out, but never did. Excited to watch the beasties play through it instead!

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I hope they play through the whole game

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I hope this series continues. This game and its sequel might be the best Star Wars things!

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Hope you guys continue this, great classic game (and you can be really evil in this one too if you really want too).

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Go Bron! This is awesome, please do more!!

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I'm very excited at the prospect of this series! Vinny and Alex have been a great pairing, and I really enjoyed Mass Alex. I agree with @neely that I hope the Beaster's go through this as well as Kotor2.

Personally, I think this game is one of the best games ever. And, despite the issues, I think the sequel is absolutely worth playing too. As others have said, it helps to use the Restoration Mod, though.

That said, Kotor 2, in my opinion, has the most compelling story I've ever seen in the Star Wars universe. Excited to see Vinny and Alex dig into this wonderful story.

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I would love to watch this on the TV but that text is completely unreadable. I know you're doing the best you can with what old software provides but I hope you can figure some way to improve that.

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This is a pleasant surprise! One of my favourite games of all time. Here's hoping for a full playthrough.

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For your next installment of Vinny makes Alex play his favorite games, we have KOTOR.

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Please play Sith. It's so much funnier.

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Those thinking this game may be a bit overhyped aren't really wrong, but they're also missing context a bit. Remember this came out between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith when original Star Wars fans were pretty damn annoyed with the direction of the franchise. Lots of people latched on to Kotor as the best thing to happen in Star Wars fiction since the original trilogy.

Certainly a debatable opinion if you were into the extended universe at the time, but I'd agree that it's better than anything George Lucas was doing.

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Why would you tease us and not do a full playthrough

Why

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Excellent. This is one of my favorite games!

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THIS game has the best Star Wars theme.

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Edited By poobumbutt

Ever since I had the big, cool twist of this game spoiled for me, I've never had the drive to actually finish it. Oh, well. The Vinny/Alex Combo is top tier, so (maybe) I'll experience this game and it's ending with them (rather than via a very poorly written and seemingly deliberately spoiler-laden guide); that's almost like getting the time I spent with the game back! ...Right?
Edit: Added a single parenthetical after learning this is maybe, certainly, perhaps not a full playthrough.

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@frytup: I still think this is one of the best star wars video games out there. I'd love a modernized star wars rpg but it's so niche for such a mainstream property.

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Yes keep it going fellas I'm only half way through mass Alex but I have to see this one through ferda.

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@sakuno: Damn kids. Get off my Kotor. It's a lot better written then Biowares last few games. Maybe not quite as good as the Witcher 3.

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@bbackguitar: Oh, sure. I'd even happily take a remaster of Kotor 1 & 2, but that would be so much work it probably doesn't make sense.

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I have a real fondness for this game. This game has a real fondness for it's tedious dialog, which I was fond of skipping after the 50th extra 10 seconds of 'hey look we're on infinite DVD storage' dialog from a vendor/quest giver.

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@humanity said:

Much better now before Alex was mostly fine but your voice was definitely getting garbled up with the game audio. Everything seems pretty balanced in this version KOTOR__v2__fin__FIN2.mov

wait, is there a .mov file we can download?

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@sakuno said:

Never played this game but I always heard that it was really well written, as in significantly better than modern RPG writing. Maybe it's just the start but so far it seems stiff as hell and very videogamey. Like ships exploding and generic soldier man is here to say "ah yes, I see you are *audible recording take change* a scoundrel, let me explain what a scoundrel is for 30 seconds, now why not use your hacking skill on this door"

Does the writing get better or is it just a case of grey-beards exaggerating how good the writing is.

It's mostly the intro thats like that - it feels like they didnt quite know how to tutorialize that stuff well. The writing improves pretty much the second you land on Taris.

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Oh shit the best game ever made

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@sweetz: Alex and Vinny may not do this but thanks for making and linking that. After that you can use these instructions I found so you're not looking at letterboxed menus. https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1159-kotor-high-resolution-menus/

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Gotta say big meh for this from me. This game is -fine- but y'all already played Mass Effect I wasn't really looking for more of this, especially in what's largely a step back. I'd be excited to see you two play something completely different from that. I hope this is a one off I am really not interested in a playthrough of this game in 2021.

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i know NOTHING about this game, but i am so damn excited for vinny and alex to play through this. i hope they make it a series

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@frytup said:

Those thinking this game may be a bit overhyped aren't really wrong, but they're also missing context a bit. Remember this came out between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith when original Star Wars fans were pretty damn annoyed with the direction of the franchise. Lots of people latched on to Kotor as the best thing to happen in Star Wars fiction since the original trilogy.

Certainly a debatable opinion if you were into the extended universe at the time, but I'd agree that it's better than anything George Lucas was doing.

This bit about context is pretty key. It's easy to forget (and maybe it wasn't the same everywhere) but for a long time Star Wars was a deeply uncool thing to be into due in large part to the prequels being god awful. This whole Marvel era has normalised liking nerdy shit quite a lot but in the early 2000s back then to get a big videogame following on from content based on the Dark Horse comics with covers like this using a D&D style ruleset? It was really exciting for the tragics.

As an aside and to illustrate there has always been good Star Wars and shitty Star Wars co-existing I just realised Jedi Outcast came out the same year as Attack of the Clones.

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@hayt said:
@frytup said:

Those thinking this game may be a bit overhyped aren't really wrong, but they're also missing context a bit. Remember this came out between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith when original Star Wars fans were pretty damn annoyed with the direction of the franchise. Lots of people latched on to Kotor as the best thing to happen in Star Wars fiction since the original trilogy.

Certainly a debatable opinion if you were into the extended universe at the time, but I'd agree that it's better than anything George Lucas was doing.

This bit about context is pretty key. It's easy to forget (and maybe it wasn't the same everywhere) but for a long time Star Wars was a deeply uncool thing to be into due in large part to the prequels being god awful. This whole Marvel era has normalised liking nerdy shit quite a lot but in the early 2000s back then to get a big videogame following on from content based on the Dark Horse comics with covers like this using a D&D style ruleset? It was really exciting for the tragics.

As an aside and to illustrate there has always been good Star Wars and shitty Star Wars co-existing I just realised Jedi Outcast came out the same year as Attack of the Clones.

The other thing to remember is, this is BioWare pre-Mass Effect. So, it lays serious groundwork for what many now consider to be the prototypical BioWare party RPG.

FWIW, I loved this game when it came out...I have owned it on every platform it has ever appeared on (including Amazon Fire TV), and I replay it at least once per year...so my opinion on this game is absolutely biased.

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This game was great at the time, but I think the combat system definitely does not hold up. I wouldn't blame them for dumping it just because playing through the combat is a huge slog. Vinny is right that this is directly based off of 3rd edition D&D, which means that you can kinda screw up your character build a little more easily than in Mass Effect.

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niiiice, I started with the mass effect games, but never got around to playing any kotor

hope this series goes through

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