Obsidian Aims to Fix Dungeon Siege III's PC Controls

Well, it's half-off on Steam right now, and with my Xbox gamepad the demo plays pretty good.

Really I just want Diablo III but whaddya gonna do?

I don't think I wanna get this game regardless of the control scheme.

The game was ruined when square enix got a hold of it and turned the series into a console noob game and ruined it for life so nobody gives a fuck what they do to it anymore. 
 
The series is now a Horrible  game series for console noobs and has nothing to do with the old PC games end of subject  and the game is not worth playing.

too little, too late Obsidian

played the demo on steam, hated the controls, played it for an hour anyway, that is one demo that actually backfired, it un-sold me on the game and i cancelled my pre-order.

something about first impressions, right Obsidian?

Oh Obsidian, how your still around is beyond me. So... How bout that Titan's Quest and Torchlight huh?

Pickup a strictly PC game series. 
Turn it into a console game for it's long awaited sequel. 
<insert troll face>

   of course one torchlight 2 comes out pretty much every dungeon crawler is screwed.  

Dayum Obsidian, i loves ya, but you dun messed up again!

I know it's not nice to wish bankruptcy on a developer, what with a shitload of studios getting shuttered these past few years.  But goddamn it, someone needs to pull the plug on Obsidian.

I thought of something really clever to say to this, but decided Obsidian weren't worth the breath.

They are a terrible company, they make terrible games and people are still surprised when a game they make sucks. It's like watching people think that the next sonic game will be good each and every time.

I'm done with them for good.

Who among us really believes that Alpha Protocol was in finished condition when they released it?

Who among us believes that with a few more months Fallout: New Vegas would have been way, way less buggy?

1. Gamebryo is a mess of an engine.
2. Even after many significant patches there are still issues with F:NV
   

Who among us has actually played an Obsidian Entertainment game out of the door that wasn't a buggy mess and had chunks of it missing?

:( I saw the headline "Obsidian Aims to Fix Dungeon Siege..." and immediately assumed they were working on correcting the multiplayer situation. I'll still hold out hope, but it's a long shot.

The controls are fine, just takes some time to learn and adapt to them. But heaven forbid, if someone actually tries to make something different and doesn't copy the controlling scheme from the 125 Diablo/WoW clones.   The only thing missing is the option to bind your keys and yes, there have been other developers/publishers that have left that option out of their game, and some of them never even bothered to patch it in later.

Even if Obsidian came up with a cure for cancer the same people would be raging on forums.

The controls are fine, just takes some time to learn and adapt to them. But heaven forbid, if someone actually tries to make something different and doesn't copy the controlling scheme from the 125 Diablo/WoW clones.  

The only thing missing is the option to bind your keys and yes, there have been other developers/publishers that have left that option out of their game, and some of them never even bothered to patch it in later.
 
The game itself if one of the best action rpgs I've played and so far the best game of 2011 (until Arkham City comes out).

consoles didn't ruin this game, obsidian did. the original is still the best so i had very little hope for this one. although had they not nerf'd the whole co-op experience this would probably have been a fun co-op game to play. and if you have a gamepad the game plays fine. 
 
 of course one torchlight 2 comes out pretty much every dungeon crawler is screwed. 

Obsidian should switch to the downloadable market like Double Fine. They've proven time and time again since their inception that they can't handle 'big' game development.

:( I saw the headline "Obsidian Aims to Fix Dungeon Siege..." and immediately assumed they were working on correcting the multiplayer situation. I'll still hold out hope, but it's a long shot.

Playing it on the PC with a 360 controller. Works fine. It is nice that they are fixing it but for me it doesn't make a difference.

im starting to see a trend with obsidian games. they seem to come out buggy as hell or broken every damn time i wonder whats up?

i guess i've always taken controls for granted. but I am still somewhat interested in playing this game, if they fix it

Oh Obsidian...

I know it's not nice to wish bankruptcy on a developer, what with a shitload of studios getting shuttered these past few years. 
 
But goddamn it, someone needs to pull the plug on Obsidian.

Not even proper gamepad support. They couldn't give any less of a shit.

Love the stock photo joke. Don't care about what the developer has to say, just love the photo.

Why is Obsidian still a company?

That's weird, I didn't notice anything wrong with PC controls, they are very precise and I never thought once how there is a problem.
 
Btw, Dungeon Siege 3 is one of the best ARPGs I played in years..

First sentence is PERFECT

give it up Obsidian.  After Alpha Failocol you'd think you'd have learned to stop half-assing shit.
 
whatever.

This is an all to common trend for PC releases, this is just a new level that we don't commonly see. Most developers can hardly be assed enough 90% of the time to do simple things like disable mouse smoothing and acceleration on the PC versions.

Seems to me that controls would be one of those things that you would want to get right above all else. Eh, maybe that's just me.

If a game has issues with something as basic and foundation focused as simple controls then it shouldn't be released until it works properly.

If they can spend as much as they did on advertising Dungeon Siege III why can't they afford to make sure the controls for the game are good for every platform it's released on?

I mean it just makes them look sloppy and lazy, I have the image in my head of some head developer guy somewhere in Obsidian's HQ getting near to the last hurdle and simply sitting back with the plan to patch it after release already in the works, also with the plan to act like they hadn't realised that it was as bad as it turned out, but also admitting that they thought it could have been better had they done some extra work.

Obsidian Entertainment keeps supporting their unwanted reputation of releasing games that should've been in development for at least 10 more months. Who among us really believes that Alpha Protocol was in finished condition when they released it?

Who among us believes that with a few more months Fallout: New Vegas would have been way, way less buggy?

Who among us has actually played an Obsidian Entertainment game out of the door that wasn't a buggy mess and had chunks of it missing?

I could go on but I think I'm pushing it, most of you are quick-witted individuals and get the point. I just think they're going to have to push for longer dev times when they're signing up for doing sequels or branch-off-games to other main games. Like KOTOR II or Fallout: New Vegas.

Kind of a meaningless gesture once you've already bought and played the game. This is why I get frustrated with the fucking bullshit "release it today and fix it some other time" mentality.

Too little too late

Jesus Obsidion are bad.....

so tired of the release-and-patch laziness

They shouldn't have had to fix the PC controls to begin with if they were customizable from the start.

I play my xbox games that i buy on PC due to steam sales with an xbox controller as intended, and i will continue to do so after this update. If a game gives me the option to use my xbox controller on pc, i will take that, as it's always more fun/comfortable than mouse and keyboard (FPS/RTS notwithstanding).

By the time this gets out, I will have already finished and sold this broken game. How about spending time with these things PRIOR to release, uh Obsidian? Or maybe, I don't know... this is probably a crazy idea, but how about hiring some testers next time?

How does it control? I would like it to control basically like Alien Swarm, with a crosshair, but being essentially dual joystick. Is that not what they did?

@buckybit: DS1 looks better? You sir, are blind.

"We couldn't be bothered to put any effort into the PC version before release, but now that the console version has flopped, I guess maybe we should try and rescue our PC sales..."

Fuck off. Maybe giving PC gamers "a good way to control the combat" is something that ought to be considered before release.

A new control scheme for the PC would be nice, but that's not gonna be enough to make the game less boring.

The only real blasphemy is the lack of customizing. I honestly can't even remember the last time a PC game shipped without the ability to rebind keys it's so rare, and now it's been done by a relatively PC friendly developer on a PC game series? Ridiculous.

Unless they change it completely to a Diablo style "click on stuff" game, which I doubt they will, it will probably still play better with a pad anyway. So a pad is how I am playing it.

I did like the demo, but the control scheme seemed to be unecessarily awkward. Fix it and i might consider a buy...

@somejerk said:

What changed between DS1 and DS3 in controls? Only played the first and it was just fine? What happened here? (Too lazy to get the demo, ISP having issues)

Well, it's almost an entirely different game genre now, so the controls are different.  It's not a standard diablo-like, it's more like a Baulder's Gate Dark Alliance style of game where you're given direct control. Point and click movement is no longer present, and WASD directly controls the character.  You don't click a guy to attack, you attack where you are when you click.  The worst part is that the controls aren't rebindable and that A and D are turn left and turn right, respectively.  There are no move left or move right commands like you can do on the console, it's forced tank controls if you're using WASD, which in this type of game is very, very bad.  You can move with the mouse, your character basically moves in the direction of your cursor, but that's suboptimal at best.
 
I honestly don't know how much work it could possibly take to replace the A and D functions to move in those directions instead of turn.

Cool! after it they will have to fix everything else to have me buy it.

It's not like obsidian to ship broken products, so hopefully this game will be fully playable in a week.
 
 
...Oh wait

What changed between DS1 and DS3 in controls? Only played the first and it was just fine? What happened here? (Too lazy to get the demo, ISP having issues)

@Heli0s said:

@Morningstar said:

Should have done this before release. But atleast the controls will be better when I pick it up fromthe bargain bin later.

My thoughts exactly. I will most likely pick this up when the wait for Diablo 3 becomes too much to handle. I'm sure there will be a nice discount on Steam as well as the updated controls by then.

Yup, for 20-25 bucks it will be a decent game. Shame they wont add a New Game+ feature though, it would have given it added value(and its kinda the industry standard with these games)

So let me get this straight.... we have a console version of a console version of a pc franchise?

Should have done this before release. But atleast the controls will be better when I pick it up fromthe bargain bin later.