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Rock Band 3 Makes A Killer First Impression

With more realistic instruments and a sharp redesign, Harmonix's next release might just save the music game genre from itself.

I don't think anyone's really sure about the future of the music game genre. When sales started to slip last year, things started looking incredibly over-saturated. This year, some publishers feel like they're retreating to familiar territory and hoping it all works itself out. But that's not the vibe you get from Harmonix Music Systems after you get a look at its next major release, Rock Band 3. There's a sort of "all or nothing" vibe to the game, and I was left with the distinct impression that the next Rock Band will either reinvigorate the genre or completely obliterate it. But at least Harmonix will rip it all apart on its own terms with an ambitious new set of optional hardware that lets players who crave a more realistic experience go absolutely overboard in incredibly exciting new ways.

The effects strip on the neck is the keyboard version of the whammy bar.
The effects strip on the neck is the keyboard version of the whammy bar.

The majority of the new hardware is being built by Mad Catz this time around. While I still remember the peripheral-focused company's shaky past, it's done all right by Street Fighter IV players for the past couple of years, and after gripping a prototype of the new keyboard controller for myself, it feels like a sturdy item. On top of that, it doubles as a keytar with a short neck--complete with effects strip--and pegs for attaching a strap. If you want to utilize the keyboard in non-Rock Band scenarios, it also has a MIDI out port. Sadly, the keyboard was duct-taped down to a stand when I saw it, dashing my keytar dreams before they were allowed to take flight.

By default, you'll use five keys on the keyboard, starting at middle C, to play the game. It's not unlike playing bass or guitar except there's nothing to strum. Adding keyboard parts to the songs opens up a wide new variety of music to the game, and some of the song selections for RB3 definitely have piano and synth parts in mind. For songs that don't have any keys to play, you can opt to play guitar or bass parts on the keyboard controller. Similarly, if you don't have the scratch to pick up a keyboard, you can play keyboard parts on guitar or bass. Of course, there are more than five keys on that keyboard. It covers a full two octaves. And if you turn on "pro mode," you'll have to play a lot more than just five keys.

The Mad Catz pro guitar has a ton of little buttons on it. Didn't get to try it in game, but I held one and it at least felt nice.
The Mad Catz pro guitar has a ton of little buttons on it. Didn't get to try it in game, but I held one and it at least felt nice.

Pro mode is the term the developers are using to differentiate a new upper tier of gameplay in Rock Band 3. It's designed to be more realistic and, by design, it ends up being a lot harder than what you're probably used to. When you enable it on the keyboard, the display changes to show more keys, forcing you to essentially play accurate keyboard parts on its highest setting. The keyboard will be available on its own for $79.99, or in a bundle with the game for $129.99.

Vocals get optional three-part harmonies, like Beatles and Green Day had, and by default, the drums in Rock Band 3 are unchanged. But remember those cymbal attachments that were sold alongside previous Rock Band kits? In the drummer's take on pro mode, some gems go between their regular style and tiny cymbals. This tells you when you'll hit the pads down below and when you'll go up top to hit one of your three cymbals. Interestingly, the expanded drum parts are backwards compatible, so much of the existing Rock Band DLC and on-disc tracks from the previous games will automatically feature the proper pro drum data. The cymbals on the Ion Drum Rocker will also work for pro drums.

Bass parts seem to be getting short shrift at the moment, as the version I saw didn't have pro bass in it. The over-the-top nature of pro guitar went a long way, though. Pro guitar will require an entirely different controller, one that's more like a real guitar. Mad Catz is making a MIDI guitar that has six strings at the bottom and a series of buttons that go all the way up the neck of the guitar, six per fret. Like the keytar, the guitar also has a MIDI out port on it. The guitar will sell for $149.99 and should be available at launch. MTV has also announced a deal with Fender to produce a real, amp-ready guitar that also doubles as a pro mode guitar controller. The "Squier By Fender Stratocaster" is a full-sized guitar. Pricing and availability of the Fender "controller" isn't available at this time.

Here's pro mode keys, drums, and guitar.
Here's pro mode keys, drums, and guitar.

So now we have two "real guitar" rhythm games coming out this year. Though I've only seen the PowerGig guitar, the biggest difference so far seems to be about the approach. While PowerGig's developers seem to shy away from being referred to as a teaching tool and sounds like it'll focus on power chords on its higher difficulty settings, Rock Band 3's expert-level pro guitar parts are said to be designed with authenticity in mind. In effect, if you're playing pro guitar on its highest setting, you're playing something that closely resembles that song's actual guitar part. To convey the information about how to actually play those parts, the note highways deliver shapes with numbers in them. The shapes will somehow tell you how and where to hold your hand on the neck of the guitar. Of course, you'll be able to play pro guitar on easy difficulty, giving you a whole new ramp to ascend. As a part of that process, you'll be able to enter the game's training mode, which allows you to take the songs down to 50 percent of normal speed and practice them until you get it down.

All of the pro mode stuff is a lot to take in, and it feels like the sort of thing that'll be best for actual musicians and the aspirational types that want to get their learn on. So it's a good thing that all of the old ways to play Rock Band are still intact. In fact, the entire software side of things has been redesigned with a focus on getting a group together and enjoying some songs a lot easier. This is done via something Harmonix is calling the "overshell," and it's basically a set of pop-out, per-player menus that you let you adjust your personal difficulty, pick your instrument, and turn on lefty flip while other players are still picking songs and moving about the rest of the game. It's designed to solve the drunken "wait, no, you hit the green button, now no one touch anything while I pick the song" moments that have turned many a Rock Band night into alcohol-fueled violence. Hmm. Maybe that's just me that gets violent.

This MIDI box lets you connect your existing MIDI drums or keyboards to your console. Crazy.
This MIDI box lets you connect your existing MIDI drums or keyboards to your console. Crazy.

Things like the world tour mode have been integrated more firmly into the core of the game, so the backgrounds of menus show your band making their way from gig to gig, all while you're still selecting songs and such. There's a new challenge system at work with over 700 things to accomplish, as well as the ability to build your own custom playlists. These playlists can be saved for easy access to your favorite songs, and you can also use them to challenge your friends to leaderboard battles. This stuff will be tied into social networks, like Facebook and Twitter. Visually, the game appears to be a step up from its predecessor, with a lot of crazy, colorful effects. Don't forget, with the addition of the keyboard, there are also now up to five different parts sharing the screen at any given time, and a potential total of seven players playing at once.

Though the whole idea for Rock Band since its original release has been that it's more of a platform unto itself than a series of individual games, the additions in Rock Band 3 appear to be totally worthy of an all-new piece of software. It'll also be compatible with all of your existing exported or downloaded Rock Band tracks, though older tracks won't suddenly receive vocal harmonies, keyboards, or pro guitar parts. Also, it's worth noting that due to changes in the file formats Harmonix is using for downloadable content, song packs released after RB3's release won't work in Rock Band 2, effectively putting an end to continued support for the first two games in the series. That seems like a very small bump in the road when taken alongside the large-sized leap that Rock Band 3 appears to be taking. It's due out on the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, and Wii this holiday season. A DS version is also in development, but... well... I bet that one won't support pro guitar. No details on the handheld version have been made available at this time.

[UPDATE 6/12/10]: Updated this story to note that pro bass will be in the final product, but wasn't in the version we were shown.

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I don't think this is worth me making a new topic for but I would appreciate it if someone could answer these questions: 
 
So can I hook up a full 88 key keyboard with midi and use it with this game? 
If I get the real guitar, the one that can be used in the game and in real life to play songs, will the game teach me basic guitar skills?  
 
The first one interests me because I have played the piano for about 12 years now and it would be cool if I could just jump into the game and see if my skills translate over! Using my normal keyboard would be awesome because I am used to it's feel and I don't want to buy that plastic looking one if I don't have to. If the skill does translate over I can see myself playing through songs on the highest difficulty and having fun jamming my way through it. 
 
The second question though is what is going to make or break whether I buy this game or not. Does it teach you how to play chords? Or is this just the button pushing of the old rockband and guitar hero games? I don't mean to diss the people who play those plastic button guitar games but personally I would find the game MUCH more interesting if it helped develop some guitar playing skills.  
 
thanks to whoever answers this. 

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Since there's a keyboard now, they HAVE to put Roundabout by Yes on the setlist.

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Seems pretty cool.  I like the new direction

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@TomTomWolfWolf said:
" this got me thinking,i played guitar here for a year,and then moved on to real guitar.anyway i noticed that i can easily remember notes on the real guitar but on guitar here i cant,which is weird cuz guitar here has less notes.and i think that people should really just get a guitar instead of these plastic ones. "
MY BRAIN HURTS
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this got me thinking,i played guitar here for a year,and then moved on to real guitar.anyway i noticed that i can easily remember notes on the real guitar but on guitar here i cant,which is weird cuz guitar here has less notes.and i think that people should really just get a guitar instead of these plastic ones.

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@DevWil said:
" i was foolishly saying this before i'd actually played Guitar Hero, but...  seriously, at this point, just pick up a real instrument. "
This for me.As a musician I could get behind the fun aspect of these games but now it seems a little pathetic.
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Oh sweet Jesus yes... Gonna have to start saving for it now, but it's so going to be worth it...

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Wow, I wanted the keyboard before - now I really want the keyboard.  I wonder if the midi box will come out for wii as well.

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@carlthenimrod said:
" I'm on-board as long as all my old stuff works. "
Same here. I'm not redownloading RB3 songs.
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I'm actually really interested in the price the midi guitar comes out at - not for the game but for actual live use. Currently if you want to emulate bands like Pendulum you have to spend uber-bucks on a StarrLabs Ztar Midi guitar or similar as they are very niche instruments. Harmonix might end up moving in on a completely different market here if they can mass-produce these to a decent standard?

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Where is the strum bar on that guitar controller?

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I wonder if this new guitar will help at all in learning to play a real guitar. Hmmm.

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Keyboards = Camel, Pink Floyd, The Doors, Dream Theater

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dudewhatthefuck? Haven't really been interested in guitar games since guitar hero 3 when I burnt out on it, (apart from a day with beatles cos I got it cheap) but I might give the ol' rockband a go in it's third installment.

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Why not just pick up a real instrument. Your not gonna get any girls playing a plastic toy!

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i was foolishly saying this before i'd actually played Guitar Hero, but... 
 
seriously, at this point, just pick up a real instrument.

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Add in turntables and this will literally be the greatest rhythm game to date.

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I cannot fuckin wait to try the keyboard. The pro shit sounds interesting.

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All I have to say is, Bohemian Rhapsody! (yeah, the hardware/software stuff is nice too)

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Just Like Heaven? WOOOOO!

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Wow, Harmonix did it again.

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I hope they revamp thier drumset, because those pads don't last long at all.
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If this works with my crappy Yamaha keyboard from 1997, we might just have a deal.

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@ParanoidFreak said:
" I've moved on from rhythm games to real instruments. I think Rock Band is great fun, but I would definitely recommend learning at least one real instrument, it is very rewarding. "
Same but I'm still a RB freak and I'm definitely getting this. RB has helped me play drums, I've started playing drums this year and still waiting to get my own kit, but I can alot of metal songs on real drums, and think it's amazing until I think about how much RB did help/teach me. Ofcourse it doesn't really teach you but rhythm it does teach you.
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As long as I can get my MicroKORG to work with this, I'll be happy.

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I am probably going to guy all this shit, and NEVER get up the motivation to learn to use it well.
 
BUT I WILL BUY IT.

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Kind of wondering how complicated is too complicated.

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This is gonna suck. Why not just get a real guitar & a Tascam guitar 
trainer & actually learn to play the instrument?  Probably be more
fun than following along a song clicking a couple of buttons.

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i personally thnk that if theyre still gonna g ahead with the keyboard thing in the final release, they HAVE to add some Enter Shikari, because not only will it create a challenge for the keyboard players, it will create a challenge for the vocals and drums, especially songs from "take to the skies" :D

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Sounds interesting, but it will be probably so damn fucking expensive that I won't be able to get my hands on it.

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This is what it takes to be an a legendary game developer. You give your consumer everything they could possibly want, and leave them saying, "What more could you possibly do?". Then you show them exactly what your capable of. I honestly believe that Harmonix is forcing this entire genre ahead by a force of will to do more and do it better. I'm seriously impressed.

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I'm not too excited for the keyboard.  I already can't play the guitar past medium.  Introduce over twice as many things to press, and I'm lost.  Still, assuming I can take my over 300 songs into RB3, there's no way I'm not picking this up.

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 Interesting... I have a midi pickup attached to one of my guitar's... so I could conceivably use that guitar in this game then perhaps ?  

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All irrelevant.  I care about two things.  If those are absent from RB3 I will never buy it. 

  1. Playing on a higher difficulty has to give more cash.  Nothing says "stay on Medium" like getting $15 for managing to barely pass the easiest song after 3 tries.   
  2. DLC needs to be integrated into career.  I know you can choose to play DLC when you have options, but compared to the DLC libraries most people have (which are by definition almost %100 stuff you like), the bundled songs will have a decent percentage of chaff you don't like.  And when the song choice is fixed, it's always from the bundled tracks.
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oh god yes, this makes me happy 

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Dammit, I need money. I want the keyboard and new guitar even though I haven't played a music game in a few months.

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@damnboyadvance said:
" @JazzyJeff: It's not designed to teach somebody to play, though. No matter how realistic it gets, everybody knows it still isn't the real deal. "
I agree. I just think a lot of people are thinking "Oh great! I can learn these songs and then play them on a real guitar."
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I've moved on from rhythm games to real instruments. I think Rock Band is great fun, but I would definitely recommend learning at least one real instrument, it is very rewarding.

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Keyboard looks pretty good. I never thought I'd be excited for another music game but this looks pretty great.

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@JazzyJeff: It's not designed to teach somebody to play, though. No matter how realistic it gets, everybody knows it still isn't the real deal.
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@KillerFly:  You see, I didn't look at it that way. I like Rock Band, but I also have a real drum kit. I guess I'm not looking at it in the eyes of people that are unsure of buying the real thing. But if they have the pro-mode built in then let's hope that they add in dual-bass pedals.
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I've never bought - or even played - a music game.  Even I'm excited for this :D
 
Seems like it's gonna cost me a pretty penny, though.  $300-400? :(

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@Nasos100 said:
" i am kinda confused about the new drum thing on pro mode. what will i have to buy for the existing drum kit to play in pro? "
The aftermarket cymbals.
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im going to buy the pro guitar for sure, even though i have a regular one

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I'm very excited about this game

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Thank you.

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Looks expansive.  Did i say expansive because i met EXPENSIVE.  I'll have to sell a kidney for this one.

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I'm interested, but not sure if I can hoof the investment...  Probably spent way too much on now-dust-collecting plastic instruments for one lifetime...

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Man, only Harmonix knows how to make the seemingly saturated rhythm game genre look exciting again.

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meh.