Ubisoft Responds to Assassin's Creed III Leaks by Just Up and Revealing its Cover Art [UPDATED]

Interesting bit of history, and would be nice to see it given some attention from the point of making a few aware what that war was really about. However, can't help but think they're pandering to a US audience a little bit. From a gameplay point of view Assassins creed should continue to have a major component of traversing and scaling amazing cities and buildings. In this period even New York isn't too interesting, and certainly no comparison to C16th Constantinople.... so seems an odd choice

The first two games were so daring, this seems conservative by comparison. But I have faith in them. There must be a way to make it work...

@huser said:

@Turambar said:

@huser said:

@Humanity said:

@huser

@Turambar said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

@Turambar said:

@huser said:

@Humanity said:

@huser

@Turambar said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

@Humanity said:

@huser

@Turambar said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

@Humanity said:

@huser

@Turambar said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

I understand the whole white hood thing is a trademark, but it's so out of place for the area, and nationality of the character.

That said, that is an awesome cover. Fuck that Redcoat!

@denshuu said:

They're Assassins, they don't take sides in these kinds of conflicts. Altair was a Palestinian dude who killed Christians and Muslins, Ezio was an Italian who jacked the Borgias and almost killed the damn Pope, etc. This new dude is going to be scalping Americans, French, Spanish, and British folk alike. Dude's gonna be after that Apple, you think he cares about some colonialist drama?

Altair was Syrian with italian ancestry, Still these games are all anti European, that's the people you kill the most and that's what i don't like about them.

cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@kcsants: Oh man I wasn't sure about the setting but those screenshots actually make it look really good.

@kcsants said:

'Possible' screenshots just out [http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/02/rumor-assassins-creed-3-screens-leaked/#commentform]

If real... looks like AC might be going even more open world (i.e. Skyrim)

Wow... thanks for that. Kinda looks like a cross between Assassins Creed and Red Dead Redemption.

I'm really curious about the new Assassin. Altair and Ezio were great characters. There's quite the legacy the new one has to live up to... :)

And here I thought that the last assassin was going to be desmond

That's great but ya know what I really want? A freaking conclusion to Desmond's story!

Can't wait.

'Possible' screenshots just out [http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/02/rumor-assassins-creed-3-screens-leaked/#commentform]

If real... looks like AC might be going even more open world (i.e. Skyrim)

@Humanity: The bad guys are still templars I'm assuming?

@denshuu said:

They're Assassins, they don't take sides in these kinds of conflicts. Altair was a Palestinian dude who killed Christians and Muslins, Ezio was an Italian who jacked the Borgias and almost killed the damn Pope, etc. This new dude is going to be scalping Americans, French, Spanish, and British folk alike. Dude's gonna be after that Apple, you think he cares about some colonialist drama?

Altair was Syrian with italian ancestry, Still these games are all anti European, that's the people you kill the most and that's what i don't like about them.

@DrMcKittrick said:

@MysteriousBob said:

@DrMcKittrick said:

FU Alex for dissing The Patriot.

Its a fucking appalling movie. Every part of it is terrible and its telling of 'history' is 99% pure bullshit. The war of Independence was to free the slaves? Fuck off.

Looks like somebody never watched the movie. Since when was it entirely about freeing the slaves? Go back to your mothers basement and get a job you little fuck.

It's still an appalling movie.  It's Braveheart in tails and cornish hats.  Mel Gibson likes to make flag waving dramas where he's the one to save us all.  As an Australian, I'm ashamed that Heath Ledger ever took part in it and I think so was he.

I really love that cover.

I think it would be badass to be hunting down the generals on both sides of the conflict. Trying to end the war by cutting off the head of the snakes so to speak.

@denshuu said:

They're Assassins, they don't take sides in these kinds of conflicts. Altair was a Palestinian dude who killed Christians and Muslins, Ezio was an Italian who jacked the Borgias and almost killed the damn Pope, etc. This new dude is going to be scalping Americans, French, Spanish, and British folk alike. Dude's gonna be after that Apple, you think he cares about some colonialist drama?

Altair was Syrian with italian ancestry, Still these games are all anti European, that's the people you kill the most and that's what i don't like about them.

I think it'll be great when Ubisoft finally complete their saga and bring it into modern day, revealing that the Apple's technology was eventually used to convince nigh-on everyone in the world to buy Apple products. And it's so obvious no one would believe that's really the case. I mean, think about it!

Just before anyone says anything, not hating on Apple/Macs. Just saying. ^-^

I'm surprised how right this feels. Fresh, yet familiar. Artwork is awesome.

@MysteriousBob said:

@DrMcKittrick said:

FU Alex for dissing The Patriot.

Its a fucking appalling movie. Every part of it is terrible and its telling of 'history' is 99% pure bullshit. The war of Independence was to free the slaves? Fuck off.

Looks like somebody never watched the movie. Since when was it entirely about freeing the slaves? Go back to your mothers basement and get a job you little fuck.

@Gabriel said:

@MysteriousBob said:

@DrMcKittrick said:

FU Alex for dissing The Patriot.

Its a fucking appalling movie. Every part of it is terrible and its telling of 'history' is 99% pure bullshit. The war of Independence was to free the slaves? Fuck off.

The Patriot is more historically accurate than the Assassins Creed games..

The AC games are pretty accurate actually. They take actual historical people and events and insert assassins and templars into it, a layer of fiction on top of history.

The assassins in AC1 are based on an actual group of assassins. They killed political leaders to change things how they saw fit. They wore white robes, with a red sash, they killed their targets in daytime, in front of a crowd. So that everyone knew they were the people behind it. Not to mention that every single one of the nine assassination targets was a real life historical figure, who died or disappeared during the summer that the game takes place.

Hell even Ezio is based off of a real person, though nearly nothing in known about him. There's one scene in AC 2 that has you defending Lorenzo de Medici during an assassination attempt during a church gathering. That event actually happened, in both real life and the game, Lorenzo lived and his brother died. The pazzi family were real.

So yeah, these games know their history. They take real historical fact, and fill all the cracks, the unknown things, with assassins and templars.

@MysteriousBob said:

@DrMcKittrick said:

FU Alex for dissing The Patriot.

Its a fucking appalling movie. Every part of it is terrible and its telling of 'history' is 99% pure bullshit. The war of Independence was to free the slaves? Fuck off.

The Patriot is more historically accurate than the Assassins Creed games..

@username1121 said:

I really hope they don't pull some Last Samurai shit and make the main character a white guy.

Because of how the animus works, he is going to be a white guy. But I too hope they don't use that story as a template...

@DaPinkTerrorist said:

This news is making me buy my first AC game since AC 1. I am so glad Ubisoft is finally committing to this idea of global assassins throughout history.

I recommend you check out AC 2. It's pretty good.

I really hope they don't pull some Last Samurai shit and make the main character a white guy.

Aww come on. As a Brit this is somewhat unsettling/ sad. As mentioned before, until now it has been Assassins vs Templars. Ubisoft, please don't make us Brits into villains :-(. We are really very nice.

They're Assassins, they don't take sides in these kinds of conflicts. Altair was a Palestinian dude who killed Christians and Muslins, Ezio was an Italian who jacked the Borgias and almost killed the damn Pope, etc. This new dude is going to be scalping Americans, French, Spanish, and British folk alike. Dude's gonna be after that Apple, you think he cares about some colonialist drama?

@MysteriousBob said:

@DrMcKittrick said:

FU Alex for dissing The Patriot.

Its a fucking appalling movie. Every part of it is terrible and its telling of 'history' is 99% pure bullshit. The war of Independence was to free the slaves? Fuck off.

The Patriot is more historically accurate than the Assassins Creed games..

@Jaytow: None of the Assassin's Creed games so far have (at least as I see it) ever taken sides in the historical retelling.

They show the aggressors as pawns of the Templars, and (while still very stab-able) are not evil.

I thought I was done with AC after II. I'm fucking back in though.

...Am I the only one that's confused by the strange amount of pride from both US and UK monetary units? Guy's you're playing (from what I understand) a Native American... the people who were slaughtered by UK folk, turned US citizens... I for one can't wait to potentially give the proverbial "it" to "The white devil" as it were... granted I would have rather gone to Asia if I'm honest.

As a British guy who hates his country, I'm down for stabbing the shit out of some red coats.

@sandweed: no, my original post said that I hope its not just on the side of the revolutionaries. I'm sceptical cause of the giant ass American flag in that concept art. I think the native cultures deserve respect and it would be a shame if the devs just use the main character for nauseating American patriotism. That's not to say I'm against fighting for the Americans or that the British weren't assholes toward Natives I just hope it isn't so black and white.

@kagato: You are right, i totally forgot about that lol.

Not another ancestooorrrrgrrrrrrrr >.<!!!

I was really hoping we were done

with all this Animus business.

They have been building Adam

Sandler up all this time and yet again in the first part of the final conclusion

(because it’s likely they’ll do at least 2 or 3 more none numerical sequels

before assassins creed is done) He’s going to be taking a back seat again so we

can have another obscured history lesson.

I don't really like Desmond but that’s not really so much

his fault as it is the studios for not really doing much with him yet. They

could easily make him a likeable character by giving him a bit more exposure

and depth with a game that focussed on his journey.

And you know, I thought by this point he would say “Screw the

animus I nearly lost my mind in there. Nope! I’m good staying off my back and

doing some killing myself”

@jayperr: @sandweed said:

@jayperr: Ezio have 10 fingers.

Indeed, during the events of Assassins Creed 2 there is a conversation between Ezio and Leonardo about the hidden blade and the fact it was modified so that you wouldnt have to loose your finger any more. The branding on the finger they do at the initiation in brotherhood is symbolic of what their ancestors had to do.

@jakkblades said:

He can't be 100% native. His dad must've been Italian.

Why not? Ezio is Desmonds ancestor, he doesn't necessarily have to be this guys too.

I think i might be excited about this and considering i just turned down buying revelations in the recent steam sale that's something I can be happy about. Finally I can get back to stabbing dudes in the face and neck!

@DrMcKittrick said:

FU Alex for dissing The Patriot.

Its a fucking appalling movie. Every part of it is terrible and its telling of 'history' is 99% pure bullshit. The war of Independence was to free the slaves? Fuck off.

Gen. Washington and I are going to murder the shit out of some Brits. Like UH. UH. UH. UH. UH.
 
Also, it'd be cool if the story provided some tension with the American settlers as well, given how the whole "treatment of natives" thing wasn't just puppy dogs and roses.

@jayperr: Ezio have 10 fingers.

He has all 10 fingers in those screens, no hidden blade then? :(

It's funny how American's are taught more about the British in relation to this time period than the actual British are. People love to acuse American's of glossing over the not-so-shiny patches of their past, but they're clearly not the only ones to be guilty of that.

@RollingZeppelin: Do we know that? You'd think the assassins have bigger concerns than wich privileged rich white dudes rule America.

I was hoping that the Assassin this time would be Metis and this was about the war of 1812. Now that would be bad ass.