Something went wrong. Try again later

Giant Bomb News

184 Comments

Worth Reading: 01/04/13

What's up, 2013? Bring in the new year's slew of unnecessary life changes with a batch of very necessary games, articles, links, and even top 10 lists that aren't awful.

No Caption Provided

So, 2012, it’s over. Blah. You’re gone. I can’t say I’m too upset about having 2012 in the rearview mirror, even if there was plenty to celebrate about those 12 months. I’m just happy to be moving forward, and can begin enacting change for the better, based on my time spent thinking about the recent past.

Sure, most of that’s going to happen in my personal life, but given how intertwined my personal life is with my professional life, that also means change for Giant Bomb--and my approach to news. When I first got here, I was hired as a news and features guy, and that was my role for the first few months. There weren’t enough podcast microphones to have me on the Bombcast regularly, but the office bought another one, and that changed. I’d drop into Quick Looks every so often just to fill in, but as it became clear there were games I was interested in looking at that no one else was, that changed, too. It all started to add up, and while I’m still regularly writing features for the site, it doesn’t happen enough, and I certainly do not have the time to spend doing background reporting on truly big stories.

That’s gonna change in 2013 in ways that will become evident in the next few months, I hope, and doesn’t really have much to do with shifting my day-to-day interaction with the site and you guys. It’s mostly making adjustments to operate more efficiently (ie: using a service to transcribe my interviews to get the writing part started sooner), and maybe bringing in outside writers to report on material that I have no interest in or time to tackle.

We’ll see. I’m only sharing some of these ideas with you to let you know it’s a new year, and while everyone talks about it being a time for change, I’d actually like some of it to happen. And, yes, that includes getting that PC. I already have the CPU and GPU, just need to get the rest. Soon, I think. Spookin' With Scoops will return, then, too.

Hey, You Should Play This

No Caption Provided

I may or may not have gone slightly overboard with the horror coverage on Giant Bomb in 2012, so I had every intention of opening Worth Reading in 2013 without a single reference to a horror game. Then, of course, I landed upon this terrific point-and-click adventure game about escaping the confines of serial killer, and absolutely had to share it with you. Killer Escape has an awful name, but Psionic Games has done a masterful job of establishing a sense of dread in a game with largely simple, static visuals. The damn game even managed to pull off a terrific jump scare out of nowhere, and I suspect you won’t see it coming, either. The whole experience doesn’t last more than 20 minutes or so (if you’re stuck: spiderwebs), but a timer ticks and tocks in the corner of your inventory, instilling a constant sense of “oh, shit, will the killer actually come back?” as you desperately click your way out.

And You Should Read These, Too

No Caption Provided

What brings pleasure to some will bring pain to others, as evidenced by this stunning essay about the negative role video games have played in his life. Granted, were games not around, it’s entirely possible Duahmel would have substituted them for a different form of fantasy and escapism, but today, the medium of choice for many is video games. We do not spend much time thinking about the consequences of the games we make and the games we play, and I’m troubled by the industry’s obsession with the word “addictive” and making games “addictive.” It’s not to suggest video games are “bad,” only that maybe there may, in fact, be “bad” things about games. The worlds we create and the mechanics we design that are beloved by most may bring out the worst in others. Should it matter?

The difference between my own experience, and that of a typical hyper-successful ivy-league-bound student is that my sense of self was built around fabricated success. Video games present a fictitious sense of trial that produce a baseless sense of accomplishment. Saving the world feels like it’s worthy of note but it is simply the outcome for every person who plays the game and doesn’t turn off the console.

I chose to define myself by my gaming successes as a way of displacing the definition given to me by my circumstances. This has brought with it all the consequences Deresiewicz describes, but without any of the benefits gained from the hard work real-world success requires. I still craved the type of success that Ivy League schools looked for, but the ease with which I could turn on a video game and feel successful without any of the work was (and still is) incredibly difficult to pass up.
No Caption Provided

Gavin Purcell likely speaks for many of us when he talks his guilt from playing with the popular iOS word game Letterpress in 2012. I went through a similar psychological arc years ago when Words With Friends, and it surfaced some of my worst tendencies. It’s awfully easy to start a game with someone, but I’d usually never make it past the second turn. Then, you’re trying to avoid the messages from people asking you to keep playing, and you resent the game, the concept of push notifications, and, ultimately, your friends. Terrible! I don’t blame people for giving up.

I take so long to play? Well, guess what, dude, I’m busy. I put in long days at work. I have to buy things from time to time. I eat. I have a family. And I was just told by my own children to put the iPhone down. So, yes, I take my time.

The interchange gnawed at me. This was an entirely new development. Guilt. Anger. Betrayal. All because I wouldn’t play this dumb little iPhone game. Looking back, my friend probably did care about what was happening in my life at the time but he was blinded himself. He just wanted to play his turn.

If You Click It, It Will Play

I Don’t Know About This Kickstarter Thing, But These Projects Seem Pretty Cool

  • The campaign to raise funds for a sequel to The Ship went nowhere, and the developers share lessons.
  • Full Bore started as a simple action game, but it's growing bigger. Looks like this has potential.
  • I'm so glad Dreadline didn't disappear into the ether. This ghostly game looks fantastic.

Maybe Every Top 10 List Doesn't Have to be the Absolute Worst

Valve Just Launched Greenlight, So Here’s Some Games That Don’t Look Terrible

  • KRUNCH looks just like the kind of assholishly hard nostalgia I haven't experienced in a while.
  • I don't know what to make of people saying They Breathe is genuinely horrifying, but I gotta find out why.
  • In 2013, I will play more couch co-op games, and maybe Super Motherload can help in that quest.

Patrick's Watching TED Talks As Part of a New Years Resolution, So Here You Go

Oh, And This Other Stuff

Patrick Klepek on Google+

184 Comments

Avatar image for oraknabo
oraknabo

1744

Forum Posts

12

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 6

Edited By oraknabo

Anyone know an alternate source for the Corridor? The link off the site says the file doesn't exist.

Avatar image for superwristbands
SuperWristBands

2281

Forum Posts

7

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

Edited By SuperWristBands

Never not be recommending horror.

Avatar image for sunjammer
Sunjammer

1177

Forum Posts

408

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 17

User Lists: 7

Edited By Sunjammer

That TBBT post reads incredibly defensive to me. I also strongly consider myself a "nerd" (though several venn diagrams identify me as more of a"geek"), and I have no problem laughing at seeing "myself" caricatured.

If you can't laugh at a caricature of your own stereotype, you are not fun. To be offended is giving it a power it doesn't really deserve, or in most cases even attempt. I just don't see the big deal. Bad or not, it's comedy. Let the people laugh.

Avatar image for kosayn
kosayn

545

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By kosayn

Regarding the negative influence of games... I don't disagree with any of what that essay expresses. I know those feelings. But I do think that it's that failure, angst and ambition cycle that can sometimes drive unassuming people to do great things. I think feeling that way is what life is about, for people that struggle to find their calling and their community. But those external things don't have to be the only anchor for your self-worth.

And I think you can't really discount how games make so many people feel good when making this argument, just because being skilled at a game doesn't also write their name on some mythical leaderboard in the sky. A great career doesn't really do that either. Games, and personal plans and projects, should be appreciated for their own sake. If it's not satisfying while you're doing it, It'll probably never satisfy you when you've accomplished it.

----

Otherwise, I feel that Shining Force 2 does not actually hold up, having played it through for the first time back in June. It's okay in the early going, and the graphics are very good. But the story and quality of translation really falters in the back half of the game. The battles also get larger than they need to. Finally, some of the later characters will probably never 'get good' for you, no matter how long you carefully feed them easy kills.

Shining Force 1 is a much more solid game, in my opinion.

Avatar image for blacksymbiote
BlackSymbiote

137

Forum Posts

10229

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 8

Edited By BlackSymbiote

That TED Talk was fantastic!

Avatar image for wholefunshow
WholeFunShow

401

Forum Posts

1287

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 22

Edited By WholeFunShow

I was somewhat obsessed with Dark Eye, so disappointed when I tried and failed to get it to work on modern computers. Maybe I'll try again...

Avatar image for procrasturbate
procrasturbate

297

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

Edited By procrasturbate

Awesome stuff. Thanks Patrick.

Avatar image for atomicedge
AtomicEdge

373

Forum Posts

5339

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 11

Edited By AtomicEdge

I saw a picture of UO and got super excited. My first gaming addiction!

Avatar image for brink87
brink87

41

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By brink87

Ultima Online, fuck year

Avatar image for csl316
csl316

17007

Forum Posts

765

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 10

Edited By csl316

I'm guessing They Breathe is terrifying like the water levels in Sonic are terrifying.  Just went through Sonic 1 last week for the millionth time, and every time I almost ran out of air I was freaking out (that music doesn't help things).

Avatar image for krathoon
Krathoon

309

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Krathoon

I have "The Dark Eye". I never finished though.

Avatar image for insanejedi
insanejedi

781

Forum Posts

777

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 14

User Lists: 0

Edited By insanejedi

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

Because cars primary use is to transport, guns are to kill people. What games are you refering to that do this with cars?

Well cars kill more people than guns do every year in the western world so which is morally more comfortable?

And guns are not designed to kill people, guns are designed for CONFLICT a gas chamber or electric chair is designed to kill people, a gun is designed to fight.

And every simulation racing game that has ever existed? Every Need for Speed Game, Forza Horizon? They are all glorification of driving fast and dangerous on roads that would be totally unrealistic in a simulation world. It's not wrong that they do that, it's awesome to drive a Lamborghini really fast away from cops but the manufacturers know they SELL cars through the video games.

Don't believe me? A lot of people want a Nissan GTR because of it's effectiveness in video games.

Statistically speaking again, cars kill more people than guns do every year in the western world, so which is more morally reprehensible? Promoting cars or promoting guns? Are either of those things wrong?

Avatar image for madnesshero88
madnesshero88

56

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By madnesshero88

Shinning Force 1 was one of my earliest rpg experiences, it seems pretty rudimentary in design now, but it definitely holds a special place in my heart due to nostalgia. So i cant really answer the question of whether or not it holds up as I'll readily admit I'm not subjective. I can say though that i can still pick it up and play it for hours straight.

Avatar image for thekbob
TheKbob

153

Forum Posts

18

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Avatar image for bourbon_warrior
Bourbon_Warrior

4569

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By Bourbon_Warrior

@SaturdayNightSpecials said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@Brodehouse said:

Electronic Arts apparently responsible for... the legal sale of firearms in the United States.

What fuckery is this? "Blatant regard for decency". Do you even know what decency means? Say what you want about comarketing, but it's not like they're promoting the sale of crystal meth. If you don't like guns, try to get guns banned. But trying to make them taboo, EA mentioning them is 'indecent'?

You're not 22, Patrick, you're as old as I am. Are you being serious with this or is this just a Tom McShea-ish play to the kneejerk and the reactionary?

I thought the linking to sites where you can buy guns is terrible taste for a game, hey you'r having fun shooting dudes with this rifle so why not buy it in real life

What separates that from "Hey, you're having fun weaving through highway traffic at 120 MPH in this Lexus, why not buy one in real life?"

Because cars primary use is to transport, guns are to kill people. What games are you refering to that do this with cars?

Avatar image for auron570
AURON570

1778

Forum Posts

1029

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 4

Edited By AURON570

Keep up the good work Patrick. Honestly if it weren't for this column I probably wouldn't have read/seen ANY of the excellent articles/videos that are linked in this feature.

Avatar image for insanejedi
insanejedi

781

Forum Posts

777

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 14

User Lists: 0

Edited By insanejedi

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@Brodehouse said:

Electronic Arts apparently responsible for... the legal sale of firearms in the United States.

What fuckery is this? "Blatant regard for decency". Do you even know what decency means? Say what you want about comarketing, but it's not like they're promoting the sale of crystal meth. If you don't like guns, try to get guns banned. But trying to make them taboo, EA mentioning them is 'indecent'?

You're not 22, Patrick, you're as old as I am. Are you being serious with this or is this just a Tom McShea-ish play to the kneejerk and the reactionary?

I thought the linking to sites where you can buy guns is terrible taste for a game, hey you'r having fun shooting dudes with this rifle so why not buy it in real life

You already crossed that line as soon as you played games with real life guns in them. Millions of people have been killed by M16s and Ak47s and we don't bat an eyelash when they are in games.

Avatar image for deactivated-5d7e65f138bb3
deactivated-5d7e65f138bb3

52

Forum Posts

351

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 19

User Lists: 0

I don't see how it's crony capitalism when Schilling lost upwards of half to 3/4 of his OWN personal fortune in 38 Studios. He didn't exactly get his personal investment paid back by the government, did he?

I suggest Reason TV do some research on what crony capitalism actually means (hint: good place to start is banker gangsters getting billions from bought and paid for politicians so they didn't have to take a bath on high risk, high stupid "investments")

Avatar image for christaran
ChrisTaran

2054

Forum Posts

-1

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 9

Edited By ChrisTaran

I've seen that TED Talk before. It is one of the most wonderful 20 minute speeches I've ever seen in my life. Glad you're exposing others to it Patrick!

Avatar image for lucianotassis
lucianotassis

91

Forum Posts

5240

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 3

Edited By lucianotassis

I absolutely love Morrowind! One of the best games of all time in my list! :) Such amazing memories! I was obsessed about this game for some time!

Avatar image for wizall
wizall

55

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By wizall

@lanerobertlane said:

Shining force 2 is my 2nd favourite game ever (behind Bubble Bobble)

Like PK, I've never played the Shining Force games, but you are dead-on with Bubble Bobble. Greatest co-op game in existence.

Avatar image for dropabombonit
dropabombonit

1543

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By dropabombonit

That Big Bang Theory essay is so spot on

Avatar image for leptok
Leptok

982

Forum Posts

30

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Leptok

@Dixavd said:

... Where I clearly stated that the second half of your comment, where you said you disagreed with the sentiment that it is immoral for a company to blur the line between fictional weaponry and real life weaponry, was a totally valid arguement but it is the only valid arguement you have. I clearly told you that this topic was brought up before and cared about before the shooting and that it is being brought up now after the shooting not because people suddenly care but because it needs to be discussed and people trying to blame all of this on videogames will bring it up anyway (so it must be tackled and mentioned no matter what anyones individual opinion of it was.

The thing I don't like is that when it was brought up before, it was just a "Well that's gross, lets move on." Now that there is a tragedy to hang it on, it's a blatant disregard for decency.

I love to tear down EA and Activision every chance I get, this just seems to be a left wing version of the shit you'd see on Faux News.

Avatar image for truthtellah
TruthTellah

9827

Forum Posts

423

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

Edited By TruthTellah

@mrcraggle said:

@TruthTellah: I remember looking at the page for Full Steam Ahead but their Kickstarter was incredibly weak. It's unfortunate that it didn't go through but it seems they know where to take the game next. Certain projects just end up not doing so well and I think 2013 will see a decline in these huge Kickstarters as fatigue has already sunken in.

Yeah, I think you may see a bit of slowdown(though many projects have gotten surprisingly high number recently) in 2013, but after some more Kickstarter-supported games come out, you'll see a resurgence once again.

Avatar image for saturdaynightspecials
SaturdayNightSpecials

2593

Forum Posts

92938

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 26

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

@Brodehouse said:

Electronic Arts apparently responsible for... the legal sale of firearms in the United States.

What fuckery is this? "Blatant regard for decency". Do you even know what decency means? Say what you want about comarketing, but it's not like they're promoting the sale of crystal meth. If you don't like guns, try to get guns banned. But trying to make them taboo, EA mentioning them is 'indecent'?

You're not 22, Patrick, you're as old as I am. Are you being serious with this or is this just a Tom McShea-ish play to the kneejerk and the reactionary?

I thought the linking to sites where you can buy guns is terrible taste for a game, hey you'r having fun shooting dudes with this rifle so why not buy it in real life

What separates that from "Hey, you're having fun weaving through highway traffic at 120 MPH in this Lexus, why not buy one in real life?"

Avatar image for syzygyeolith
syzygyeolith

114

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

Edited By syzygyeolith

What the fuck is with these dickheads in every article that Patrick posts?

We like what he has to say, in whatever 'format' it's written in, because he writes as if he was speaking to us.

Seriously, 'grammar police'? You couldn't write an article without violating a handful of grammatical rules. Don't even try bullshitting yourself that you could.

Patrick Klepek - please keep doing exactly what you do.. I've been a paid subscriber for as long as you've let me give you guys money. Your continued content and increased involvement with the quicklooks and podcasts is one of the reasons I will continue to do so. Here is to the next year of Worth Reading! <3

Avatar image for benmo316
Benmo316

1153

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Benmo316

Killer Escape was pretty cool. I'll have to check out the other recommendations. Thanks Patrick.

Avatar image for mrcraggle
mrcraggle

3104

Forum Posts

2873

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

Edited By mrcraggle

@TruthTellah: I remember looking at the page for Full Steam Ahead but their Kickstarter was incredibly weak. It's unfortunate that it didn't go through but it seems they know where to take the game next. Certain projects just end up not doing so well and I think 2013 will see a decline in these huge Kickstarters as fatigue has already sunken in.

Avatar image for bourbon_warrior
Bourbon_Warrior

4569

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By Bourbon_Warrior

@Brodehouse said:

Electronic Arts apparently responsible for... the legal sale of firearms in the United States.

What fuckery is this? "Blatant regard for decency". Do you even know what decency means? Say what you want about comarketing, but it's not like they're promoting the sale of crystal meth. If you don't like guns, try to get guns banned. But trying to make them taboo, EA mentioning them is 'indecent'?

You're not 22, Patrick, you're as old as I am. Are you being serious with this or is this just a Tom McShea-ish play to the kneejerk and the reactionary?

I thought the linking to sites where you can buy guns is terrible taste for a game, hey you'r having fun shooting dudes with this rifle so why not buy it in real life

Avatar image for xite
xite

970

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By xite

Here's to another year of scoopin n spookin.

Avatar image for jakelogan
JakeLogan

226

Forum Posts

288

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 3

Edited By JakeLogan

Opening 10+ New Tabs in 3, 2, 1.....

Avatar image for aarglefarg
Aarglefarg

34

Forum Posts

44

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Aarglefarg

I only played Shining Force 1 and 2 for the first time in 2009, and they definitely hold up. The second more than the first. Shining in the Darkness, a dungeon crawler that came before it in the series, is really cool too. Be cautious and don't go too far in early on! :)

Avatar image for rentfn
rentfn

1414

Forum Posts

597

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 5

Edited By rentfn

I still like the Bangin

Avatar image for insanejedi
insanejedi

781

Forum Posts

777

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 14

User Lists: 0

Edited By insanejedi

@Dixavd said:

... Where I clearly stated that the second half of your comment, where you said you disagreed with the sentiment that it is immoral for a company to blur the line between fictional weaponry and real life weaponry, was a totally valid arguement but it is the only valid arguement you have. I clearly told you that this topic was brought up before and cared about before the shooting and that it is being brought up now after the shooting not because people suddenly care but because it needs to be discussed and people trying to blame all of this on videogames will bring it up anyway (so it must be tackled and mentioned no matter what anyones individual opinion of it was.

You were telling me not to say the first half of my argument for literally no reason. Maybe I should actually show you the article listed...

The video game industry was drawn into the national debate about gun violence last week when the National Rifle Association accused producers of violent games and movies of helping to incite the type of mass shooting that recently left 20 children and six adults dead at a school in Newtown, Conn.

While studies have found no connection between video games and gun violence, the case of Medal of Honor Warfighter illustrates how the firearms and video game industries have quietly forged a mutually beneficial marketing relationship.

Huh. I don't know. It seems like this article is mentioning the link between Medal of Honor, it's product placement and the shooting.

I clearly told you that this topic was brought up before and cared about before the shooting and that it is being brought up now after the shooting not because people suddenly care

This seems contradictory to your feelings.

I know this topic has been brought up before, and it's brought up again using the shootings as a political piece to make this sponsorship look nastier. There are two different but not mutually exclusively arguments being made to EA's partnership. And I tackle both of them because BOTH of those arguments are being made.

Avatar image for truthtellah
TruthTellah

9827

Forum Posts

423

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

Edited By TruthTellah

Wait, the developers of The Ship wanted funding to make another one?

Why did I never hear about this? Did... anyone here about this?

I would have contributed if I thought they were actually doing a Kickstarter to make another.

Avatar image for akumaxxx
AkumaXxX

16

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By AkumaXxX

Awesome post! The projects on Kickstarter look good..

Avatar image for envane
envane

1289

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By envane

you dont fuck with dark dragon

Avatar image for bybeach
bybeach

6754

Forum Posts

1

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By bybeach

I am honestly loooking foward to your PC build. I personallly went way too far. I admit it. I still am questioning some of the advice I got was completely sincere. But boy does it perform.

Thereis that happy space, where you can play on high settings the games of today, and easily upgrade tomorrrow. It starts with your PSU.....

Avatar image for endurancefun
EnduranceFun

1116

Forum Posts

223

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By EnduranceFun

@ripelivejam said:

snip

No, I did not criticise Worth Reading, so while you may say I make a fool of myself it is you who does by repeatedly making false accusations. If you actually read the first post [can you read?] you'd see that I did praise Patrick for doing the annoying job of being the news editor. Yes, I don't like Patrick in videos or the podcast and would rather have him do the news as that's supposed to be his expertise, I don't see why this is offensive enough for you to tell me to leave the site in a wall of, consistently self-indulgent and masturbatory, text.

Avatar image for dixavd
Dixavd

3013

Forum Posts

245

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

Edited By Dixavd

@insanejedi said:

Above apparently did not read...

"OH BUT SANDY HOOK SHOOTING. IT'S SO DISRESPECTFUL!"

And a week before that it wasn't? What's so wrong with it right now that it was okay a month ago? It's such a childish notion to censor stuff because of recent events, but it's okay after a several months or a year after it has happened.

If you are also one of those people who think that crossing the threshold between real life guns and video games, then I suppose we shouldn't have name brand guns in video games as well because THAT'S crossing the line between real life and video games.

And someone apparently did not open the link which was an article that attacked EA for promoting an M rated game with real life firearm and edged tool advertising in light of the shooting.

There is no further opinion which Patrick gave other than EA was being indecent and linked to this article. There are two most likely things That Patrick believes in by bringing up that article.

A: That EA shouldn't be crossing the line between real life and games

B: That EA shouldn't be crossing this line in light of the recent shootings

Both of which I conclude are childish notions and morally inconsistent, when we have games with real life weapons, and we have games that fictionalize important historical events where many people tragically die.

Above apparently did not read...

@Dixavd said:

@insanejedi: This has nothing to do with a shooting. All of these arguments were brought up when the advertising was first brought up. You can criticise anyone from making those arguments about them crossing a line but saying that people only care because of a shooting is absurd - it was talked about for great length when it was first mentioned and people cared then. The recent events have meerly made people out more scrutiny in it and now people are saying "hey guys, remember this - we never resolved before; it is worth discussing again". It isn't that people didn't care before; it is just these are things that people who want toblame video games will latch on to so we have to bring it up again due to recent events.

Don't insult the people bringing up this topic by implying that they only care because of what is in the news. If you have a problem with what they are saying then just say the second half of your comment actually criticising their arguement.

And don't take this as me simply criticising you due to me not liking your opinion - I personally don't know what to think as being in the UK where guns are illegal (well at least to the point where there aren't stores that people can go to and impulse-buy a gun from), it is hard for me to figure out what my opinion would be if that wasn't the case.

... Where I clearly stated that the second half of your comment, where you said you disagreed with the sentiment that it is immoral for a company to blur the line between fictional weaponry and real life weaponry, was a totally valid arguement but it is the only valid arguement you have. I clearly told you that this topic was brought up before and cared about before the shooting and that it is being brought up now after the shooting not because people suddenly care but because it needs to be discussed and people trying to blame all of this on videogames will bring it up anyway (so it must be tackled and mentioned no matter what anyones individual opinion of it was.

Avatar image for ripelivejam
ripelivejam

13572

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By ripelivejam

@EnduranceFun said:

@ripelivejam said:

i think every post of yours i've seen is just following patrick around complaining about him.

you have a blog functionality: put together your own Worth Reading type article and be the improvement you want to see. otherwise stop complaining and stop reading patrick's articles; it's not constructive in the slightest.

I'm not complaining about the Worth Reading. Try reading my post instead of grouping them up with the other 'bashing my idol' comments you never try to understand.

well everything you said in your post was a negative jibe at patrick, so it was hard to construe you had no problem with the worth reading articles (which i'm pretty sure is bullshit too). worth reading articles aren't entirely news anyway, more videogame/human interest pieces and editorial, mixed with blog, so i don't understand how that gets a pass from you if what you're desiring from patrick is news only. scratch that, i believe you just want to have him sequestered to one place so he's easier to avoid and not offend your delicate sensibilities. i think you and others are also overestimating patrick's role as the only news guy; he's one guy, he's not going to be able to report on everything. if you don't think he's doing a good job then be fucking constructive about it, and don't harp on it and obsess over every single little flaw like it's physically harming you or something. maybe try to add some praise on what you like. that's called feedback. you call him out, berate him, and fling petty insults his way all the time. if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all? or maybe more to the point: better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak out and remove all doubt. go ahead and unsubscribe as you're adding nothing of benefit to this site as far as i can see besides petty, childish complaints.

Avatar image for mjhealy
MjHealy

2009

Forum Posts

17432

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 15

Edited By MjHealy

Oh Patrick you linked to that "mid-core" article on Gamasutra, didn't you? I could not roll my eyes any harder at that piece. I think I hate "mid-core" more than Triple A, which believe me says a whole lot.

Avatar image for endurancefun
EnduranceFun

1116

Forum Posts

223

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By EnduranceFun

@ripelivejam said:

i think every post of yours i've seen is just following patrick around complaining about him.

you have a blog functionality: put together your own Worth Reading type article and be the improvement you want to see. otherwise stop complaining and stop reading patrick's articles; it's not constructive in the slightest.

I'm not complaining about the Worth Reading. Try reading my post instead of grouping them up with the other 'bashing my idol' comments you never try to understand.

Avatar image for karkarov
Karkarov

3385

Forum Posts

3096

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Karkarov

Hmm wonder why that same dude wrote basically the same story for two different places? Duhamel also has basically the same article posted to Kotaku. Of course Patrick did link the superior article since that one (while being basically the same) comes sans Kotaku users and their inane moronic comments.

Avatar image for nidzumi
nidzumi

117

Forum Posts

50

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

Edited By nidzumi

@hughesman: I think it's more because they laugh directly at the audience they appear to be targeting. I can see both points of view even though I don't care for that show.

Avatar image for bigbootyhoe
BigBootyHoe

7

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By BigBootyHoe

Ohhh god nooooo! Stick to news please please please. You are very good at news and very bad at everything else. You state completely incorrect things as fact and suck the funny out of the room faster than an AIDS diagnosis. PLEASE just stick to news.

Avatar image for insanejedi
insanejedi

781

Forum Posts

777

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 14

User Lists: 0

Edited By insanejedi

@Dixavd said:

@insanejedi: This has nothing to do with a shooting. All of these arguments were brought up when the advertising was first brought up. You can criticise anyone from making those arguments about them crossing a line but saying that people only care because of a shooting is absurd - it was talked about for great length when it was first mentioned and people cared then. The recent events have meerly made people out more scrutiny in it and now people are saying "hey guys, remember this - we never resolved before; it is worth discussing again". It isn't that people didn't care before; it is just these are things that people who want toblame video games will latch on to so we have to bring it up again due to recent events.

Don't insult the people bringing up this topic by implying that they only care because of what is in the news. If you have a problem with what they are saying then just say the second half of your comment actually criticising their arguement.

And don't take this as me simply criticising you due to me not liking your opinion - I personally don't know what to think as being in the UK where guns are illegal (well at least to the point where there aren't stores that people can go to and impulse-buy a gun from), it is hard for me to figure out what my opinion would be if that wasn't the case.

Above apparently did not read...

"OH BUT SANDY HOOK SHOOTING. IT'S SO DISRESPECTFUL!"

And a week before that it wasn't? What's so wrong with it right now that it was okay a month ago? It's such a childish notion to censor stuff because of recent events, but it's okay after a several months or a year after it has happened.

If you are also one of those people who think that crossing the threshold between real life guns and video games, then I suppose we shouldn't have name brand guns in video games as well because THAT'S crossing the line between real life and video games.

And someone apparently did not open the link which was an article that attacked EA for promoting an M rated game with real life firearm and edged tool advertising in light of the shooting.

There is no further opinion which Patrick gave other than EA was being indecent and linked to this article. There are two most likely things That Patrick believes in by bringing up that article.

A: That EA shouldn't be crossing the line between real life and games

B: That EA shouldn't be crossing this line in light of the recent shootings

Both of which I conclude are childish notions and morally inconsistent, when we have games with real life weapons, and we have games that fictionalize important historical events where many people tragically die.

Avatar image for ripelivejam
ripelivejam

13572

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By ripelivejam

@EnduranceFun said:

So basically Patrick is writing less news and appearing in more videos, and they're paying for a replacement to do the old news job? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Like, that may be the very worst thing I've ever heard, I think? I only ever supported Patrick at all because he facilitated the unwanted news guy role. If he's now full on 'member of the crew' a la Ryan when he's awful at videos and the podcast, that's pretty atrocious. I know plenty of you guys just love how he runs around in circles in quick looks, states incorrect factoids far more than anyone else in videos and talks over everyone else with his inane blabber... but if they're really giving him even less of a real job then I can see myself unsubscribing, as I don't know if I can take more of his entitled bullshit. I'll wait and see but this really cuts the mustard.

Also still waiting on a reply to the 3,200 baited comments, Klepek.

@Xeirus said:

It always cracks me up when people do this, who cares...

Who cares if the editor knows how to write English. Not like that's a requirement for being a journalist, pshaw.

i think every post of yours i've seen is just following patrick around complaining about him.

you have a blog functionality: put together your own Worth Reading type article and be the improvement you want to see. otherwise stop complaining and stop reading patrick's articles; it's not constructive in the slightest.