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    Battlefield 3

    Game » consists of 15 releases. Released Oct 25, 2011

    Battlefield 3 is DICE's third numerical installment in the Battlefield franchise. It features a single player and co-operative campaign, as well as an extensive multiplayer component.

    Battlefield 3 will have only two factions, again.. (US vs. RUS)

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    #1  Edited By AhmadMetallic

    from the new Battleblog: 

    SPECACT Kit Upgrade
    What it is: A set of 8 multiplayer skins, one for each class and side in Battlefield 3.
     
    Instead of empowering the feel of the big maps and the all-out war with at least 3 different sides in the conflict, where you'd see two different opposing armies every time you play, they're going the Bad Company way and having two factions only. 
    Not only that, but the two factions are the SAME as the Bad Company ones (was announced before).. I was eager to see new factions with their unique weapons and vehicles and languages and faces, but we're back to americans and russians.. 
     
    To those who don't understand how this matters: Sure, it's not a deal breaker, but not everything has to be a deal breaker for it to be bad. The diversity of factions empowers the over-all feel of the game, and if you can't feel that shit, we can't feel it for you. 
     
      

    Yes, BF3 is already feeling new and different.  
    Yes, BF3 is already feeling new and different.  
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    #2  Edited By MrKlorox

    There's never been any reason for more than two factions since they haven't ever had 1v1v1 combat. There is no room for innovation in this port.

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    #3  Edited By Cows_R_Crunk

    I'm going to take a wild guess and say the two main weapons will be an M16 variant and an AK variant.

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    #4  Edited By TheHBK

    So no terrorists or Chinese?  Dumb.  I want some racist voice overs damn it!

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    #5  Edited By Subjugation

    You mean no Chinese or Arab faction? Time to slap someone on the hand.

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    Wasn't BF2 the last BF game with more than 2 factions? It's not exactly shocking.

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    #7  Edited By scarace360

    i wanted to see Australia vs Canada :(

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    #8  Edited By PeasantAbuse
    @MrKlorox said:

    There's never been any reason for more than two factions since they haven't ever had 1v1v1 combat. There is no room for innovation in this port.


    A 1v1v1 Battlefield could be quite awesome though.
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    #9  Edited By MrKlorox

    @PeasantAbuse: I totally agree. I loved the 3 and 4 team maps in Team Fortress Classic.

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    #10  Edited By PhatSeeJay

    I found the 3 factions in BF2 to be dumb, since it was more or less USA vs Everyone else. The Chinese and Arab forces never fought each other.

    Sure they could have gone for a completely new faction, but I don't care that much. Just hope there will be faction specific weapons this time, unlike BC2.

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    #11  Edited By Sin4profit

    That's what DLC is for.

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    #12  Edited By ZeroCast

    Say what?
     
    To be honest, this isn't something that I would "miss" but surely enough the difference of appeal for each faction in Battlefield 2 was an addition that differentiated the atmosphere of each map.  Was it more work to be done by DiCE to achieve such a thing? Probably, but if my knowledge doesn't deceive me, there is an Iraq/Iranian enemy in the game, why not use that as an asset and work with it?

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    #13  Edited By AhmadMetallic
    @MrKlorox said:

    There's never been any reason for more than two factions since they haven't ever had 1v1v1 combat. There is no room for innovation in this port.

    Haha, you and your Battlefield wishes.. I know you wanna see 1v1v1, but just because they don't have it doesn't mean there should be only two factions. Playing as an Arab against US and vice versa, and Chinese against US and vice versa, helped me enjoy Battlefield 2 more and feel like there was an actual variety of armies fighting this war. Also it divided the maps into two unique groups based on faction, rather than the bunch of Bad Company 2 maps that all feel the same 
     
     
    @TheHBK said:
    So no terrorists or Chinese?  Dumb.  I want some racist voice overs damn it!
    Battlefield games never had terrorists.. what are you talking about? 
     
     
    @S0ndor said:
    Wasn't BF2 the last BF game with more than 2 factions? It's not exactly shocking.
    Actually it is, considering that the only Battlefield game that came out after BF2 was a sci-fi title, and that this game here is supposed to be a sequel to BF2
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    #14  Edited By SomeJerk

    To me it will be down to the maps. Does it makes sense to have russians here? Yeah, they're in desert camo gear. Make sense to have russians here? Well yeah it's a snowy winter landscape of Russia. How about here? Yep. Having black people in Resident Evil 5? Yes.

    In the end it's down to the old red vs blue, enemy and friend.

    ESKA PJESKA!

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    #15  Edited By FrankCanada97

    Even the first Bad Company had 3 factions.

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    @Ahmad_Metallic: There have been a total of 7 Battlefield games since then. All with 2 factions. The fact that they do not match the purist ideal of what a Battlefield game is supposed to be doesn't change that.  
     
    So again, not shocking at all.
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    #17  Edited By citizenkane

    At least one of the factions isn't "Opposition Forces".

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    #18  Edited By CaptainObvious

    It's shaping up to be a... 
     
    MODERN MILITARY SHOOTER :O

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    #19  Edited By Agent47
    @Ahmad_Metallic: Aw shit I was really hoping for a middle eastern faction.I love hearing arabic.
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    #20  Edited By BeachThunder

    I want to see Greeks vs. Potatoes =(

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    #21  Edited By warxsnake

    Until maps are built large enough to support 3-way warfare, there's no point in my opinion.

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    To me, thats a smart move.

    To the average casual fps player this might sound lame, cause apparently more=better, but i like the idea of only two factions. limiting the number of silhouettes and character models you have to make out, in a frantic and fast moment only benefits the gameplay. You dont have 3 different factions where you have to constant be guessing which one is my team mate and which one is my enemy. Having fewer models and factions, makes it easier to extinguish which one is the one to shoot at and which one not to shoot at. nothing is worse, than shooting a teammate or getting shot before you could shoot the guy aiming at you, cause you couldnt figure out if he was an ally or an enemy. Having easily reconizable and only the vital characters in the game can have a huge effect on the gameplay.....

    But godfuckingdamnit i want my European/Scandinavian Psuedo army faction!

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    #23  Edited By Scooper
    @scarace360 said:
    i wanted to see Australia vs Canada :(
    You probably couldn't have 2 less likely opposed countries lol.
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    #24  Edited By FilipHolm

    Who Cares?

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    #25  Edited By spartanlolz92

    idont know how that can be in the single player tralier they showed you fighting an iranian para military force.  usually they add those factions in the multiplayer
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    #26  Edited By UnrealDP

    Its not like the chinese have mechs or something, it doesnt matter whos fighting and a good developer adds things no matter who the faction is. You're being a huge pesimist and you know the game will at least be fine. Besides a 1v1v1 game would be rather hectic and just because there are only 2 facions doesn't mean theres less value like you're saying. Im no developer, but it seems like they're doing a fine job and your just being annoying.

    1v1v1 would be fun i guess, but no other game has done it, so you can't just put it as a standard and say "I don't like it cause it doesn't have this feature thats never exsisted!". Its fine to want new things, but don't be an ass because a game isn't a revoloution for the shooter.

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    #27  Edited By Spoonman671

    Trivial.

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    #28  Edited By scarace360
    @Scooper said:
    @scarace360 said:
    i wanted to see Australia vs Canada :(
    You probably couldn't have 2 less likely opposed countries lol.
    but wouldnt it have been awsome!
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    #29  Edited By TheDudeOfGaming

    I wonder when the whole USA vs Russia thing will end, communism in Russia has been dead since 1991, so is the Cold War.

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    #30  Edited By daiphyer
    @S0ndor: Bad Company 1 had 3 factions. BF2 had around 4 factions if I remember right.
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    #31  Edited By MrKlorox

    @Daiphyer said:

    @S0ndor: Bad Company 1 had 3 factions. BF2 had around 4 factions if I remember right.

    BF2 started with 3 factions, then the European Union faction was added with the booster packs. It was included into the regular BF2 game with the 1.5 patch that made the booster maps free tor everybody.

    And then there's the Expansion pack (not to be confused with the Boosters) which had 6 factions (US Navy Seals, British SAS, Russian Spetsnaz, MEC Special Forces, insurgents, and Chechnian rebels.

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    Wait your telling me that their are two factions in a video game!

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    #33  Edited By Yanngc33

    Who cares, it's still (great) multiplayer that I can't wait to play

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    #34  Edited By mikemcn

    Since weapons are not based on factions in Battlefield 3, this doesn't mean much of anything. Its not like in 2 where only the MEC got Ak47s

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    #35  Edited By AhmadMetallic
    @Sin4profit said:

    That's what DLC is for.

    Exactly.. i hope the BF3 DLC will include new factions on new maps for the core game, and not new factions in a standalone DLC like Vietnam >_> 
    Still, even if we wanna tolerate this DLC-based money grabbing policy, we shouldn't tolerate this AMERICA VS. RUSSIA bullshit in such a new "all our war" groundbreaking shooter... 
     
     
    @Agent47 said:
    @Ahmad_Metallic: Aw shit I was really hoping for a middle eastern faction.I love hearing arabic.
    Me too, especially that i speak the language.. that made BF2 way more awesome to me 
     
     
    @S0ndor said:
    @Ahmad_Metallic: There have been a total of 7 Battlefield games since then. All with 2 factions. The fact that they do not match the purist ideal of what a Battlefield game is supposed to be doesn't change that.   So again, not shocking at all.
    Those aren't main-series games, they're spin offs and downloadables, they don't really count when talking Battlefield 3 don't you think ? 
      

     
    @somejerk said:

    To me it will be down to the maps. Does it makes sense to have russians here? Yeah, they're in desert camo gear. Make sense to have russians here? Well yeah it's a snowy winter landscape of Russia. How about here? Yep. Having black people in Resident Evil 5? Yes.

    In the end it's down to the old red vs blue, enemy and friend.

    ESKA PJESKA!

    Well the game is supposed to take place in many locations including Paris and Tehran, so i dunno how the Russians are gonna fit there >_>
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    @Ahmad_Metallic said:

    @S0ndor said:
    @Ahmad_Metallic: There have been a total of 7 Battlefield games since then. All with 2 factions. The fact that they do not match the purist ideal of what a Battlefield game is supposed to be doesn't change that.   So again, not shocking at all.
    Those aren't main-series games, they're spin offs and downloadables, they don't really count when talking Battlefield 3 don't you think ? 
      
    DICE worked on (almost) all of those games. You can't realistically expect them to ignore 6 years of experience just because those were not "true" Battlefield games. I expect to find plenty of elements from those other games in the final version of BF3, most notably destructible environments, of course. 
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    #37  Edited By MooseyMcMan

    It seems odd to me that the campaign stuff they've shown is against "fake Taliban" but the multiplayer is against Russians.  
     
    I don't mind though, Russians make great villains. 

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    #38  Edited By ericdrum

    It would be nice to have more, but it's not a big deal to me.

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    #39  Edited By Whitestripes09

    could be worse, it could be.... ALIENS VS SPACE MARINES.

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    #40  Edited By Gabriel

    Russians are the new Nazis.

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    #41  Edited By Evilmetal

    I wonder if they are running out of time and felt it necessary to make content cuts in order to make the deadline. In BF2 the US, MEC and Chinese each had different vehicles and weapons. There was a lot of variety and it felt like a 'large' scale environment.  I wonder if they, or marketing or ass kissers, will use the excuse that "hey they are also including a single player campaign". I thought they said SP wouldn't affect the quality of the MP.  SP is to accommodate the console user base.
     
    If anything, China should still be in the game. China has all the factories making cloths and foods and electronics. They could pull off some economic problems to western countries in reality. The whole Russia thing is just an extension of the cold war era. How could they claim "Modern" when they are touching on cold war situations. The times of today all point to China as the economic power house. All the money they get from western countries buying various electronics from Apple products to hard drives to motherboards to food stuffs, clothing, etc... a lot of the profit from our purchases goes to their weapons programs.

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    #42  Edited By withateethuh

    is this really something were complaining about now?

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    #43  Edited By Solemn

    This is EXACTLY like the thing that happened in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005......Germans vs. Americans. The U.S vs. Russia thingy is boring.

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    @Gabriel said:

    Russians are the new Nazis.

    except russians are badass enemies

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    #45  Edited By Clonedzero

    i dont mind this at all. i dont see the big deal?
    hell they could be  "generic team A vs. generic team B" as long as the gameplay was fun i wouldnt care.

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    #46  Edited By Rolyatkcinmai

    That's disappointing as I felt the three army setup in BF2 (as well as the introduction of SAS, Spetsnaz, EU, etc) were just plain awesome. Playing as insurgents on one map, then playing as SAS defending against Spetsnaz on the next map, then playing as the European Union against China.... It was really exciting.

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    #47  Edited By Nadafinga

    I can't think of something dumber to complain about.

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    #48  Edited By krisgebis

    Would have been sooo cool if they had spiced it up with 1v1v1 battles. That would really be some significant modification to the fomula.

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    #49  Edited By Sarkhan

    3 would be good, just in the feeling of a "wider" war. But im ok with this. I'll play the russians(GRU unit wohoo!) anyday ;)

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    #50  Edited By scarace360

    Why no Africa?

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