" Yeah, same thing with Amnesia. That game would have been tons better with competitive multiplayer. "

An outrageous FPS like Bulletstorm just can't really work with competitive multiplayer.

 @Enigma777 said:

" I'll take an FPS with no MP that focused solely on the SP than one with a tacked on MP that brings the whole experience down. Just look at Bioshock!  "

Bioshock 2 was great. Same cool world(which is what the fist game was all about) and the gameplay was improved.  Maybe the story wasn't as good, one could argue that the first didn't have that great of a story, but that's about the only thing you could argue against it.   "  

" I clicked on this thread, thinking that there was actually a problem with the game. "

"  Not competitive multiplayer.. seriusly!?      In theory you can make plenty of good intelligent arguments on why this shouldn´t matter..in practice the market has spoken... a 2011 FPS with no competitive multiplayer seems more like a joke to me.   "

Because we all know that most competitive multi-player experiences are long-lasting, engrossing, and well-worth the time and effort developers put into them. 
 
Clearly, you, sir, are a sage, and your wisdom will resonate through the ages.

I always pictured this game to have leaderboards comparing everyones score for a particular stage. I also don't know how you get bullet time, which happens a plenty in th single player, into the multiplayer. If you remove that and the combos that come with it you end up with essentially another unreal first person shooter frag match. But with a leaderboard system, you get something a little different to seperate it from other popular first person shooters on the market. 

" It does have competitive multiplayer its just not at the same time, you know, like pacman

It comes with the Gears 3 beta so i'm happy,.

" I clicked on this thread, thinking that there was actually a problem with the game. "

And yes Competitive and Co-Op its almost a basic feature nowadays you can´t let the standard go down, would you buy a laptop without wireless nowadays?    

They would need to get rid of the leash and/or the temporal gravity thing in order for it even to be moderately fair/skill-based.  Unless you want all but one person to be floating through space for most of the game, unable to do anything.  Also, most of the "corralling" or inst-kill weapons or weapon abilities (flail gun, screamer alt-fire, PMC alt-fire) would need to be toned down.
 
Basically, in order to make competitive work, you'd need to get rid of everything that makes the game unique.  Go play Gears or BLOPS instead.

This game doesn't need competitive multiplayer.  It's a waste of resources.  If i want to play multiplayer i already have tons of games for that.  They don't need to waste money throwing in some generic-after-thought-death-match mode.  besides, this game wouldnt even make sense with multiplayer.  it would just be a huge clusterfuck.

" You're right. All games should be the same. "

I don't expect all FPS games to have multiplayer. I don't think I want all FPS games to have multiplayer.

" @HandsomeDead said:

" You're right. All games should be the same. "  

yes people love to kill each other online that´s why they buy fps nowadays.   still  i think they missed an oportunity to make a fresh competitive experience with the so call "kill with skill super powers combo system"   "

hard@captain_clayman said:

" it would just be a huge clusterfuck. "

i think the lack of MP is a good thing.. otherwise, the online community would die out like the rest of the half-assed MP games.. i would personally like it if less games had MP, and let the ones that do, do it right..

the problem with this  game is that it's geared towards idiot kids that think curse words make a game cool and mature

If they made an extremley interesting, long, fun single player experience, then it's worth not having multiplayer.

I approve this thread.

" well, you guys have been brain wash by dumb activision, EA FPS. then you have prejudice by yourself. so if other games are different from what you think, they are so wrong? what a typical numb nut. before playing it, you never know.  "

" Nothing is going to beat Black Ops, so why try, just concentrate on a better Single player experince "

" @DonPixel: Its these kind of arguments that Ken Levine talked about in the interview he did with Jeff. "

Hey you guys want to play some ODST later?

I think it could be a problem for an average BLOPS gamer, but again, these 13 year olds are propably going to buy the game anyways after the whole FOX story and the overall "humor" in the game.

Ken Levine is quite a brilliant game designer. System Shock 2 is a masterpiece.

" Because we all know that most competitive multi-player experiences are long-lasting, engrossing, and well-worth the time and effort developers put into them.  Clearly, you, sir, are a sage, and your wisdom will resonate through the ages. "

I was pretty stoked on Bulletstorm.
 
Didn't know or cared if it had competitive multiplayer.
 
Read this topic and now I'm way happier knowing that People Can Fly and Epic are confident enough to release it that way.

" @Brodehouse said:

" @DonPixel: Its these kind of arguments that Ken Levine talked about in the interview he did with Jeff. "

I saw that interview, and I respecfully beg to differ with Ken Levine  I actually think he´s an overrated game designer in the line with David Jaffe.  "

" Right, because people played Bioshock for the multiplayer.  Of course.  Bulletstorm isn't about K/D ratios, it's about amassing scores based on creative killing.  Unless the competitive multiplayer were to have players gunning down AI characters in ridiculous ways, there wouldn't be any point to such an option.  It's not a game built for deathmatches. "

Makes no sense that it doesn't have it, but I wouldn't buy it either way so I don't care.

Thank god you aren't a game designer or some sort of executive at a publisher. Not every game needs competitive multiplayer.

" If anything, less games need to have competitive multiplayer. "

I didn't know that, but thanks. Now I'm even more interested in this one.

"You're right. All games should be the same. "

This game has competitive multiplayer the same way as The Club or PDZ's through the campaign. Though I don't think it would be terrible for Bulletstorm to have co-op, especially if enemies are cannon fodder to be used as being for nothing other then skillshots. Also I don't think you can call it co-op if you're playing with a friend to see who get's the most points. You're working against each other which is pretty competitive and not so much cooperative.  
 
I'm not interested so much in this game. Mostly I just don't like the entire, "Oh look you scored x points for doing this" while playing it. I like it at the end of a level or stage, just not so much during as it distracts me from shooting mans. Also, earlier in this thread someone mentioned multiplayer Amnesia. I would throw money at people and do questionable things for that.

" I clicked on this thread, thinking that there was actually a problem with the game. "

" @DonPixel said:

" @Brodehouse said:

" @DonPixel: Its these kind of arguments that Ken Levine talked about in the interview he did with Jeff. "

I saw that interview, and I respecfully beg to differ with Ken Levine  I actually think he´s an overrated game designer in the line with David Jaffe.  "

Irrelevant, Levine has already proven you don't need competitive multiplayer in a shooter to work.  Good day, have fun with your Call of Duty. It's obviously the better game than Bioshock and Bulletstorm already since it has a deathmatch right? "

" the problem with this  game is that it's geared towards idiot kids that think curse words make a game cool and mature "