I hope BioWare can return to form. They released some of my favourite games, but have gone downhill after DA: Origins.

@Vitor said:

Would you rather they use their awful in house stuff or UE3 again? DA2 looked dated and plain compared to the Witcher 2. Frostbit might actually bring it up to par again.

I'd rather it looked like BG/IWD/PST and played like BG/IWD/PST. See, the problem with DA2 wasn't how it LOOKED, the problem was with how it PLAYED.

Either using FB2 is good because they can spend less time on engine tech and more on the content that MATTERS.

Oooorrr... they're just going to spend a shit load of time on fancy shaders, particle effects, cinematics, fucking up the {ui, camera, inventory, party} system trying to cram a CRPG into an engine not designed for CRPGs.

You know, and all the tasks they're prone to that take time away from the shit that MATTERS in a CRPG.

Here is my gratis tip to Bioware: Set up several smaller teams to work on smaller projects. Perhaps there's someone there who'd like to work on a smaller CRPG title which isn't a 30 month, 200 devs operation with DLC planned out from day 12.

I don't want to throw Dragon Age 2 under the bus anymore but I will say that Dragon Age: Origins was a game I greatly enjoyed and Dragon Age 2 simply was not. I don't have any expectations one way or another for this title instead I guess I'll just wait and see.

@Tennmuerti said:

@StarvingGamer said:

I can't wait. DA2 and ME3 were great games, despite what the sheeple might try to tell you.

Nah they were both terrible despite what blind Bioware fanboys might try to tell you.

Terrible and not liking them are two completely different things.

I'll reserve judgement until screenshots, and first game play news comes out, Hopefully they'll return to the roaming aspect of Origins.

@WilliamHenry said:

@Tennmuerti said:

@StarvingGamer said:

I can't wait. DA2 and ME3 were great games, despite what the sheeple might try to tell you.

Nah they were both terrible despite what blind Bioware fanboys might try to tell you.

Terrible and not liking them are two completely different things.

As is them being great and liking them. (also read the text in the spoiler block it's fairly important)

@BigSteve1983: You are the first smart person in the thread, and yes that includes myself.

@Humanity said:

Well to put things in perspective, when they were promising that Mass Effect 3 will be a better balance of action and RPG than ME2 was it turned out to be even more action and even less RPG so who knows how Dragon Age 3 will turn out.

Yeah. Fuckin' Bioware of old man, they will be missed. Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect are still my two favorite games (Dragon Age being the big number 1 for me) But DA2 and ME2/3... :(

@StarvingGamer said:

I can't wait. DA2 and ME3 were great games, despite what the sheeple might try to tell you.

It had high production values, told a good story and the core mechanics were solid. But it was also rushed, sloppy and for lack of a better term, dumbed down for mass consumption, removing many of the features and aspects that people wanted from a series that was supposed to be about returning to the roots of PC RPG's. It's really not surprising people treated the game so harshly.

ME3 I can agree with more and I don't think it would get so much hate if it weren't for the ending, which in fairness, screamed of the writers not knowing how to wrap things up and quickly rushing together whatever.

I hope its Origins with Frostbite graphics cause that is a game I will play the shit out of.

The last three BioWare games have all been mediocre to bad, so I doubt this will be any different.

Faith is very low for this project. DA2 had huge first week sales because of Dragon: Age Origins. This isn't going to have that. They need to impress their fans, and stop insulting them when they don't give their games 100% approval.

Frostbite 2 is really starting to make the rounds. I have no interest in the game, but I'm interested to see what they do with the engine.

should I get the day one DLC, online pass and "will it have a better ending DLC" topics out of the way or wait till then?

Just leave this series in the grave where it belongs. Dragon Age 1 was such a great game, but the sequel salted the earth and killed all the puppies in your house.

DA2 was not well received well, so actually perhaps the lowered expectations will be good for the game. I'd rather see Dragon Age to just shed all its RPG tropes and make a full transition into action adventure, focusing on combat solely with a tighter story and segments in which choices give flavor outcomes to the proceedings.

“We’ve been poring over player feedback from past games and connecting directly with our fans.”

Isn't this what they said with Mass Effect 3...?

Interested to see what DA3 can deliver. Hopefully it's a nice combination of both DA2 and DAO ideals.

As long as it's Bioware making the game and not "Bioware", "Bioware" or "Bioware", and they get more than eight months making the actual game parts of it.

@gringbot: and DA2.

I really hope they don't screw this up

I'm one of the backwards people who liked 2 and beat it, but never got more than six or seven hours into 1. It'll be interesting to see if they flip it right back to what they had originally, if they combine the two styles, or they leave it as is.

This time as a result of listening to fans DA3'll include bestiality and a little mechanical gnome race as possible paths of romantic interest.

@Nomin said:

DA2 was not well received well, so actually perhaps the lowered expectations will be good for the game. I'd rather see Dragon Age to just shed all its RPG tropes and make a full transition into action adventure, focusing on combat solely with a tighter story and segments in which choices give flavor outcomes to the proceedings.

Gross.

@almolo said:

I really hope they don't screw this up

I remember hearing this for ME3 too...

@GenocidalKitten said:

@WilliamHenry said:

@Tennmuerti said:

@StarvingGamer said:

I can't wait. DA2 and ME3 were great games, despite what the sheeple might try to tell you.

Nah they were both terrible despite what blind Bioware fanboys might try to tell you.

Terrible and not liking them are two completely different things.

Great games and liking them are two completely different things.

Bubble gum and spiders are two completely different things.

biowares last shot at quelling the fans rage.

mass effect 3 was a good game, but the ending soured me on the rest of this franchise.

and only 2/3 of dragon age 2 was ok, last 1/3 of that game maybe the stupidest thing ive ever played. felt really bummed that that anders emo-ness is the whole reason for the conflict thats gonna be carried over.

its especially annoying because, right before that point, you were just about to quell the 2 factions conflicts.

@Landon said:

@GenocidalKitten said:

@WilliamHenry said:

@Tennmuerti said:

@StarvingGamer said:

I can't wait. DA2 and ME3 were great games, despite what the sheeple might try to tell you.

Nah they were both terrible despite what blind Bioware fanboys might try to tell you.

Terrible and not liking them are two completely different things.

Great games and liking them are two completely different things.

Bubble gum and spiders are two completely different things.

Clearly you are chewing the wrong kinds of gum.

@Landon said:

Bubble gum and spiders are two completely different things.

Box quote of the year right there.

Strange how two years ago I would have been excited for anything BioWare was doing. Now, just, eh...

I loved DA2. Yeah, the lack of different environments wasn't great but I didn't feel like the mechanics were significantly watered-down from the original. I had a lot of fun with the gameplay and I thought Bioware crafted some great characters and did some really interesting things with narrative that you don't see in many other games. Kirkwall may be the only place you go in that game, but by the end of it, it's not the same city.

@StarvingGamer said:

@Landon said:

@GenocidalKitten said:

@WilliamHenry said:

@Tennmuerti said:

@StarvingGamer said:

I can't wait. DA2 and ME3 were great games, despite what the sheeple might try to tell you.

Nah they were both terrible despite what blind Bioware fanboys might try to tell you.

Terrible and not liking them are two completely different things.

Great games and liking them are two completely different things.

Bubble gum and spiders are two completely different things.

Clearly you are chewing the wrong kinds of gum.

What is going on!!!

@triviaman09 said:

I loved DA2. Yeah, the lack of different environments wasn't great but I didn't feel like the mechanics were significantly watered-down from the original. I had a lot of fun with the gameplay and I thought Bioware crafted some great characters and did some really interesting things with narrative that you don't see in many other games. Kirkwall may be the only place you go in that game, but by the end of it, it's not the same city.

I don't recall Kirkwall changing in any significant way at all.

Here is a tip throw every thing from dragon age 2 out lol.

@Donkeycow said:

@StarvingGamer said:

@Landon said:

@GenocidalKitten said:

@WilliamHenry said:

@Tennmuerti said:

@StarvingGamer said:

I can't wait. DA2 and ME3 were great games, despite what the sheeple might try to tell you.

Nah they were both terrible despite what blind Bioware fanboys might try to tell you.

Terrible and not liking them are two completely different things.

Great games and liking them are two completely different things.

Bubble gum and spiders are two completely different things.

Clearly you are chewing the wrong kinds of gum.

What is going on!!!

What we are trying to say here is that spider bubblegum clearly rocks while bubblegum spiders are disgusting.

Well, Frostbite 2 is good at least...

No one suspects the inquisition subtitle.

@DharmaBum: They're working on Battlefield 4, is that Frostbite 2 as well?

I'm really looking forward to this. I didn't think Dragon Age 2 was bad. It just didn't live up to its predecessor, probably because they rushed it out. This time it looks like they took their time (2+ years already and more than another year to go), so I really suspect it will be good. Besides, maybe I'm in the minority on this, but I still have faith in Bioware's ability to make a damn good game.

They're going to bring the indoctrination theory into it.

@BigChief said:

@triviaman09 said:

I loved DA2. Yeah, the lack of different environments wasn't great but I didn't feel like the mechanics were significantly watered-down from the original. I had a lot of fun with the gameplay and I thought Bioware crafted some great characters and did some really interesting things with narrative that you don't see in many other games. Kirkwall may be the only place you go in that game, but by the end of it, it's not the same city.

I don't recall Kirkwall changing in any significant way at all.

There was even one area where you would go there at day or night and the sun was STILL SHINING. The underground sewery section of the city. Night or day, it was always lit up.

Clearly this guy is talking about how the "mood" of Kirkwall changed, plotwise, but the layout, the look, the people, all of that was pretty much static over ten years. Characters didn't age, things didn't move, the same damn street people were in the same spot, for 10 years.

Nobody expects it.

@triviaman09 said:

I loved DA2. Yeah, the lack of different environments wasn't great but I didn't feel like the mechanics were significantly watered-down from the original. I had a lot of fun with the gameplay and I thought Bioware crafted some great characters and did some really interesting things with narrative that you don't see in many other games. Kirkwall may be the only place you go in that game, but by the end of it, it's not the same city.

Kirkwall didn't change in a single noticeable way.

At all.

Oh god BioWare news. The gaming community is going to be fucking insufferable for the next few days. I'll definitely pick this up despite my disappointment in DA2 because I really enjoy the DA story and setting.

@StarvingGamer said:

@Landon said:

@GenocidalKitten said:

@WilliamHenry said:

@Tennmuerti said:

@StarvingGamer said:

I can't wait. DA2 and ME3 were great games, despite what the sheeple might try to tell you.

Nah they were both terrible despite what blind Bioware fanboys might try to tell you.

Terrible and not liking them are two completely different things.

Great games and liking them are two completely different things.

Bubble gum and spiders are two completely different things.

Clearly you are chewing the wrong kinds of gum.

Freedom is the right of ALL sentient beings.

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Oh god, the DA2 memories... I'll be extremely cautious about this.