Any good recent RTS's with base building?

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#1  Edited By rbanke

I used to love RTS's back in the day, Warcraft 2 and the Stronghold series being my favorites. Once they started switching to 3d and micromanaging your units, and slowing getting rid of the focus on base building they lost me. I like my RTS's simple and slow. The last time I looked at one was the Red Alert 3 demo on the PS3 but i couldn't stand to even finish the demo. 
 
 So my question, Has there been any recent (PC) games fitting what I might like? I haven't heard of anything, but I also haven't payed a whole lot of attention to the genre. 

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Uh, Red Alert 3. On the PC. Good grief, man, PS3? What are you thinking? CNC 3 has base building too. 
 
 
And Warcraft 3 is still pretty great. RTS's these days have been sort of dumbing down base building, but Supreme Commander still has tons of that, if that's your cup of tea.

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#3  Edited By chewii101

Starcraft. Not the sequel I mean the original. Maybe Empire Total War for your "modern" needs? 

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#4  Edited By rbanke
@Keenblaze: Yea, on the ps3... The demo was right there, i cant be held responsible for my weakness! Anyway, I didn't bother trying it on the pc (mine had an overheating problem at the time) because I thought it had NO base building, if you are saying it does, I may try it out. 
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#5  Edited By Noodlearms

Starcraft 2 beta.

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#6  Edited By Vinchenzo

Just pre-order Starcraft II. The definition of premium base building. I love it.

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#7  Edited By rbanke
@Vinchenzo said:

" Just pre-order Starcraft II. The definition of premium base building. I love it. "

I got the itch now though :( 
 
Downloading the Red Alert 3 demo for pc, gonna give it a real try.
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#8  Edited By StarFoxA

I have Red Alert 3 on the 360. It's absolutely terrible. I need to get it for the PC.
 
But as for suggestions... you could always pick up Command & Conquer: The First Decade for some nostalgia?

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@rbanke: Oh, yeah, RA3 is one of the most recent RTS's that actually has base building. Walls and everything. I don't know how badly the PS3 version killed it, but I enjoyed it on the PC. Good rock-paper-scissors balance, I thought. That's probably my #1 recommendation for traditional RTS style in a fairly recent game.
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#10  Edited By Astras
@rbanke: 
I have been playing through Warcraft 3 again at th moment.. if you havn't gone all the way through to Frozen throne.. I REALLY recommend it.
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#11  Edited By shirogane

Yeah, RA3 was pretty awesome. I especially liked the commander's challenge in the standalone expansion. 
 
As for base building, RA3 relies on buildings and stuff more than the other recent RTS games. Especially the Rising Sun faction. Each faction also has slightly different building rules. 
 
Havn't tried console versions but, seriously, there hasn't been an RTS on consoles that's been good. 
While you're at it, pre-order SC2.
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#12  Edited By Seedofpower
@rbanke said:
" @Vinchenzo said:

" Just pre-order Starcraft II. The definition of premium base building. I love it. "

I got the itch now though :(  Downloading the Red Alert 3 demo for pc, gonna give it a real try. "
Beta it.
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#14  Edited By h0lgr
@NekuSakuraba: No, you must construct additional pylons.
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#15  Edited By Jimbo

Stronghold was the one that was half city-builder, half RTS, right?  If you want a couple of recent examples similar to that, I would suggest Anno 1404 or Grand Ages: Rome.

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#16  Edited By Lazyaza

Supreme Commander 2 is what you want, game is freaking awesome and 70% of the gameplay is base building.  The ai is highly adjustable with many custom settings, even ones labeled turtle if you want a nice slow match.
 
My co-op buddy and I have good fun setting up crazy defenses and rows of artillery then just laughing as the enemy gets pelted while we build up massive armies of giant robots.

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#17  Edited By Semition

I recommend Age of Empires 3, Warcraft 3, and the Starcraft 2 Beta.

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#18  Edited By harris

I'd pre-order SC2 and play in the beta. It's the best RTS around, in my experience.

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#19  Edited By Corpsegrinder

I agree with Lazyaza. I highly recommend Supreme Commander 2. Tons of base building. Another fantastic RTS is Company of Heroes. That doesn't have much base building in it though. The main focus in that game is the combat.

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#20  Edited By ColMirage

I'd go for SupCom & Forged Alliance over SupCom2.

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Umm.. why are people recommending Starcraft 2? It doesn't seem like what he wants at all...

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#22  Edited By ShaneDev

Who needs recent games, just play Red Alert 2 again. 

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#23  Edited By Murray
@Khann: 
Maybe they only read the name of the topic, and not the post?
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#24  Edited By babblinmule

As others have said, get Red alert 3 on PC. I tried playing it on 360 beforehand and passionatley hated it - i then bought it for PC and utterly love it.

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#25  Edited By SoylentGreen
@h0lgr said:
" @NekuSakuraba: No, you must construct additional pylons. "
WE REQUIRE MORE VESPENE GAS
 
On topic, though, I recently played through Dawn of War (the first one, mind you) and most of it's expansions. Every mission's path to success was the same; turtle up, build up to the population cap, swarm enemy. Great game, too.
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#26  Edited By Bobdaman18
@Lazyaza said:
"Supreme Commander 2 is what you want, game is freaking awesome and 70% of the gameplay is base building.  The ai is highly adjustable with many custom settings, even ones labeled turtle if you want a nice slow match.  My co-op buddy and I have good fun setting up crazy defenses and rows of artillery then just laughing as the enemy gets pelted while we build up massive armies of giant robots. "

I agree, supreme commander 2 is the first rts i've played in a while that i really like.  Turtling is actually a viable strategy in this game.
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#27  Edited By Rowr

supcom 2 is a decent game despite what fans of the first might say. Definitely a tighter better rounded experience.

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#28  Edited By JokerSmilez

I would not recommend Starcraft 2 if you want "simple and slow". Starcraft has never been either of those things.

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#29  Edited By Astras
@Rowr said:
" supcom 2 is a decent game despite what fans of the first might say. Definitely a tighter better rounded experience. "
OMG... how can you even say that.. Have you even played the first Supreme Commander?
 
I can't even begin to start arguing about what you just said.. all i'm going to say is go and take a long look in the mirror, say out loud what you have just written. If you dont have a really shamefull look on your face of realization of just how stupid a comment this was, then just headbutt the mirror repeatadly,.
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#30  Edited By Corpsegrinder

Wow. You're kind of an asshole. Seriously you need to chill the fuck out man. I agree that Supreme Commander 2 is a tighter and better rounded experience. There isn't so much micromanagement or 3 tiers of building. It's all unlocked through research.

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#31  Edited By Lamashtu


Red Alert 3 is probably the only RTS of recent memory that followed the fomula of RTSes of old, that and the Starcraft 2 beta (if you're willing to put down 5 dollars for a pre-order at Gamestop). 
 
I recently finally came around to getting Sins of a Solar Empire and that has some base building. But, I will tell you that game is hideously complex (though in my book in a good way).

 

Company of Heroes technically does have base-building, granted in most games you're only going to be building two or three.

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#32  Edited By Jeust
@rbanke:  
 
  • Warcraft 3
  • Starcraft
  • Perimeter
  • Perimeter 2
  • Supreme Commander
  • Supreme Commander 2
  • Rise of Nations
  • Stronghold Legends
  • Age of Empires 1,2 and 3
  • Star Wars Galatic Battleground
  • Populous: The Beginning
 
There are plenty of games like that... you just have to dig a little bit.
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#33  Edited By mrfizzy
@rbanke: this in no way helps you but i just wanted to say, fuck me Stronghold and Stronghold Crusader were good. 
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#34  Edited By Mono_Listo

Man I tell you, for me, no RTS has ever matched the first Total Annihilation base building. I find myself disappointed with every RTS to follow. I never played the first Star Craft (*gasp from the crowd*), so maybe I'll give part duex a shot.

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#35  Edited By schizogony

This may seem out of left field, but you might want to check out Age of Booty.