Demons souls and/or Dark Souls. They are japanese rpgs, but probably not in the way you mean.
Best JRPG of the current Generation?
@Colourful_Hippie said:
@Captain_Felafel said:
Persona 4: Golden, mother scratchers! I don't care that it's technically from the last generation, it came out during this one, so shut up.
The original was from the last gen and the remake is from the next gen. Nothing about that game is from the current gen.
Dark Souls is the best RPG from Japan this generation but I don't think that's what the OP meant by JRPG. I haven't played any games this generation that stand out as great in the old JRPG style. I've seen some of Neir and Xenoblade Chronicles but not enough to make a judgement either way.
Lost Odyssey is definitely at the top of my list and I'm hopeful, but also damn near positive that Ni No Kuni will be amazing. That one might surpass Lost Odyssey. Valkyria Chronicles is probably my favorite RPG of this generation, but it's not a JRPG sooooo......yea.
I'm going to take the heat and predict the future for saying that Ni No Kuni will be the best JRPG this generation. The team behind it will (hopefully) bring the magic of the movies to the table. I'm buying a PS3 solely for that damn game - so it better.
@BamurDeadd said:
So this generation has fallen flat on the JRPG front, save for a few gems and the DS library. What's your favorite JRPG that came out? Xbox, PS3, PC or otherwise?
Has to be Lost Odyssey for me! Great story telling and character development and a battlesystem that just invokes nostalgia in all the right places!
This could not be further from the truth, there have been a ton of great JRPGs this generation. I played so many good ones that it's impossible to pick a favorite.
I will throw a dishonorable mention to HD Square games and any abomination that Compile Hearts shit out.
@Canteu: Final Fantasy XIII is the source of much heated debate for myself and friends and I certainly understand the other side of the fence. But for me as a fan of the entire rest of the series I just felt that the 20+ hour tutorial then the world opening to a grind-fest just turned me right off. It remains the only Final Fantasy game in the series I have yet to complete. Even if the story is good (and it totally is) and the combat interesting (and it totally is) for me it becomes unplayable at a point and OMG THAT WHINY KID AAGAGGHGAHJKDSAHS!!
@Prismatic said:
Radiant Historia on the DS was my favourite.
Xenoblade was amazing too and is the best I played on home consoles.
These are both excellent games.
@Slay3r1583 said:
Unpopular opinion but I loved Hyperdimension Neptunia Mk2. I'm really looking forward to Victory.
I'm not counting counting Persona 4: Golden because that is mostly a remake of a last generation game.
Like you said it may be unpopular, but I loved HN Mk2 a whole lot. The game mechanics were solid, and the story was unexpectedly fun.
@NinjaBerd said:
@Slay3r1583 said:
Unpopular opinion but I loved Hyperdimension Neptunia Mk2. I'm really looking forward to Victory.
I'm not counting counting Persona 4: Golden because that is mostly a remake of a last generation game.
Like you said it may be unpopular, but I loved HN Mk2 a whole lot. The game mechanics were solid, and the story was unexpectedly fun.
Did either of you play the first game? Or rather, do you have to to play the second? I'm considering trying one but am still on the fence.
Infinite Undiscovery and Eternal Sonata
I skipped the first HN, mostly because I heard the battle mechanics were broken and boring. But as far as story context goes you do not need to have played HN to understand what's going on in Mk2.
I dont really even think HN is canon to Mk2, but regardless they give you a good understanding of what is going on in Mk2.
Also, I cannot wait for HN Victory!
Since I also wouldn't count P4:G, as much as I would like to, I would say Radiant Historia on handhelds and Xenoblade on consoles.
Skip HDN 1 and just play Mk2 if you are really interested. Mk2 is basically a complete reboot.
@Neurotic said:
Did either of you play the first game? Or rather, do you have to to play the second? I'm considering trying one but am still on the fence.
Seeing a weird amount of love for Lost Odyssey here. Guess I never really heard a lot about that game.
It's actually kind of weird. I chose to get a PS3 over a 360 back when MGS4 came out, partly for Metal Gear, but mostly for the flood of JRPGs that I was positive would never come to the XBox. At the very least, Final Fantasy XIII was sure to be a PS3 exclusive, right?
Thinking about it now makes me feel a little bit offended. Who would've thought that the 360 would have more and better JRPGs?
@Animasta said:
@Mesoian said:
It's still Lost Odyssey. It's the only RPG this gen I can think of that treats the player like an adult in terms of narrative.
what does that even mean?
Its story doesn't cut corners in order to appeal to the lowest common denominator. It tells the important bits well enough that you can accurately infer certain elements, and spends its time and effort focusing on emotional connections between the cast.
Compare it with Xenoblade that spends about 40% of it's story repeating the same thing over and over and over just in case you didn't get it the last 10 times, then oops! it's it wasn't important after all. Xenoblade has some of the most outrageous cases of "anime bullshit" weaved into the narrative that I've ever seen in a game period, forget about in RPG's.
@Mesoian said:
@Animasta said:
@Mesoian said:
It's still Lost Odyssey. It's the only RPG this gen I can think of that treats the player like an adult in terms of narrative.
what does that even mean?
It's story doesn't cut corners in order to appeal to the lowest common denominator. It tells the important bits well enough that you can accurately infer certain elements, and spends it's time and effort focusing on emotional connections between the cast.
Compare it with Xenoblade that spends about 40% of it's story repeating the same thing over and over and over just in case you didn't get it the last 10 times, then oops! it's it wasn't important after all. Xenoblade has some of the most outrageous cases of "anime bullshit" weaved into the narrative that I've ever seen in a game period, forget about in RPG's.
well I quit after being saddled with two of the most annoying children characters I've ever seen (also lol at the lowest common denominator remark, always love when people do that)
and really, the only really good parts were the memories, the main story was boring and the characters were lame.
I mean resonance of fate doesn't tell you anything either really, it makes you infer things from NPC dialogue and side quests for the most part.
I have to admit that my favorite genre of games has always been Western RPGs...
However, there are many JRPGs that I want to play, and this thread is very helpful!
I bought The Last Story and Xenoblade Chronicles, but I haven't started them yet. I will be playing Ni no Kuni right when it comes out, though!
If Persona 4: Golden can't win on a technicality. Then Valkyria Chronicles was my favorite (s)jrpg of this generation by far.
And if you're not letting me have srpgs... Tales of Vesperia.
@Animasta said:
@Mesoian said:
@Animasta said:
@Mesoian said:
It's still Lost Odyssey. It's the only RPG this gen I can think of that treats the player like an adult in terms of narrative.
what does that even mean?
It's story doesn't cut corners in order to appeal to the lowest common denominator. It tells the important bits well enough that you can accurately infer certain elements, and spends it's time and effort focusing on emotional connections between the cast.
Compare it with Xenoblade that spends about 40% of it's story repeating the same thing over and over and over just in case you didn't get it the last 10 times, then oops! it's it wasn't important after all. Xenoblade has some of the most outrageous cases of "anime bullshit" weaved into the narrative that I've ever seen in a game period, forget about in RPG's.
well I quit after being saddled with two of the most annoying children characters I've ever seen (also lol at the lowest common denominator remark, always love when people do that)
and really, the only really good parts were the memories, the main story was boring and the characters were lame.
I mean resonance of fate doesn't tell you anything either really, it makes you infer things from NPC dialogue and side quests for the most part.
Well if you quit after you got the kids, you quit like, 3 hours into the game...so you never got very far into the core narrative.
To be fair, I never played Resonance of Fate due to how terrible it's demo was (Ni No Kuni has the same problem, but I'm still pretty jazzed for that game).
@Mesoian said:
@Animasta said:
@Mesoian said:
@Animasta said:
@Mesoian said:
It's still Lost Odyssey. It's the only RPG this gen I can think of that treats the player like an adult in terms of narrative.
what does that even mean?
It's story doesn't cut corners in order to appeal to the lowest common denominator. It tells the important bits well enough that you can accurately infer certain elements, and spends it's time and effort focusing on emotional connections between the cast.
Compare it with Xenoblade that spends about 40% of it's story repeating the same thing over and over and over just in case you didn't get it the last 10 times, then oops! it's it wasn't important after all. Xenoblade has some of the most outrageous cases of "anime bullshit" weaved into the narrative that I've ever seen in a game period, forget about in RPG's.
well I quit after being saddled with two of the most annoying children characters I've ever seen (also lol at the lowest common denominator remark, always love when people do that)
and really, the only really good parts were the memories, the main story was boring and the characters were lame.
I mean resonance of fate doesn't tell you anything either really, it makes you infer things from NPC dialogue and side quests for the most part.
Well if you quit after you got the kids, you quit like, 3 hours into the game...so you never got very far into the core narrative.
To be fair, I never played Resonance of Fate due to how terrible it's demo was (Ni No Kuni has the same problem, but I'm still pretty jazzed for that game).
uh, I'm pretty sure the kids are in disc 2? I played that game for like 10-15 hours or something.
Word is still out on Ni No Kuni but I was really digging both Tales of Vesperia and Tales of Graces F artstyle. Probaby the Jrpg I put the most time in the last 5 years was Dragon Quest IX on DS.
@Mesoian said:
@Animasta: You switch back and forth between disc 1 and 2 a couple times that game.
well I quit after I made it to some village or something.
REGARDLESS, I hated pretty much all of the characters and didn't find any of the early story machinations interesting, and I know I played for about 10-15 hours.
Also LO has some of the slowest battling this side of FFIX.
@Animasta said:
@Mesoian said:
@Animasta: You switch back and forth between disc 1 and 2 a couple times that game.
well I quit after I made it to some village or something.
REGARDLESS, I hated pretty much all of the characters and didn't find any of the early story machinations interesting, and I know I played for about 10-15 hours.
Also LO has some of the slowest battling this side of FFIX.
I won't disagree with you there, most combat systems that revolve around the job system are pretty slow.
You should keep going with LO, it gets pretty interesting once the amnesia trope is cast off.
I'm in the Radient Historia camp with The World Ends With You as a close second. On I consoles I only played FFXIII and Disgaea 3 and 4. I really liked FFXIII so it wins on the console. But Disgaea 4 gets a special mention for Desco, the best character of the generation.
@Mesoian said:
@Animasta said:
@Mesoian said:
@Animasta: You switch back and forth between disc 1 and 2 a couple times that game.
well I quit after I made it to some village or something.
REGARDLESS, I hated pretty much all of the characters and didn't find any of the early story machinations interesting, and I know I played for about 10-15 hours.
Also LO has some of the slowest battling this side of FFIX.
I won't disagree with you there, most combat systems that revolve around the job system are pretty slow.
You should keep going with LO, it gets pretty interesting once the amnesia trope is cast off.
well I'm pretty sure one of my discs is cracked so I don't think that's going to happen (at least that's what the gamestop guy said when I tried to trade it in)
I'm going to go with Persona 4, because fuck it. It came out after Lost Odyssey anyway!
And people saying Vita is a next generation platform: What? It's on the market. That makes it current. It's even contemporary with Nintendo's handheld. You can't have devices out from all the major players and still call them next generation.
@Scrawnto said:
I'm going to go with Persona 4, because fuck it. It came out after Lost Odyssey anyway!
And people saying Vita is a next generation platform: What? It's on the market. That makes it current. It's even contemporary with Nintendo's handheld. You can't have devices out from all the major players and still call them next generation.
but then the DS and PSP don't count
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