It only bothers me when use of the discs is nonsensical. That is, some older games have you go from Disc 1 to 3 to 4 to 2 then back to 4 then to 1 because different areas are on different discs. Build the game chronologically and I'm fine with it. Otherwise it's just bad design.
Does more than one disc for a game bother you?
" Only in certain cases. Tales of Symphonia was a game with one unobtrusive switch, and that was fine. Mass Effect 2 was a wily one that popped up at random even when you had the game installed (I know, it's for security purposes...). It was so random that for awhile I was convinced that installing the game made it so that you didn't have to switch discs. A lot of older PC games which used as many as 6 CDs at least had workarounds so that you didn't have to switch discs (and I'm not talking about only NoCD cracks). On the console, it's a bit different. "The ME2 disk switch was easily predictable. As soon as you ended the linear part at the beginning and set out into the galaxy, 1st disk switch for all the non-story exploration and missions. Then right before the suicide mission (again, linear) 1 more disk switch.
I don't care about disk switches. It worries me though that if people are going to bitch about having to get up after a 10+ hour gaming marathon what hope to Move and Kinect have?
" Snake, you need to change to DISK TWO. Oh wait, this is a blu-ray. Glad I have a PS3. "
It depends on how it's implemented. If you change each disk once and that's caused by the main storyline, I'm alright with it. If it is where some locations are on one disk and other location are on the other, and there is a reason to backtrack between these locations? Ugh, no thanks.
I am in the camp of how it is implemented. If it makes the game more frustrating then no thanks, Mass Effect 2 is the best example of a recent game that did this because you would arbitrarily be switchinghing disks and you didn't know why. On the other hand Lost Odyssey (4 disks btw) was fine because i only had to switch disks at certain points of the game just like old school RPG's. It doesn't break a game or make it unplayable for me, but honestly i feel like at this point we are far enough in the future that either A. you should only have to switch disks at certain points ala Lost Odyssey. or B allow me to install all the disks to my system and then use the first disk as the check and i don't have to switch disks at all. Again not a game breaker and i will switch a disk if i have to, but it is frustrating to constantly be switching a disk when we are in an age of development where that has become archaic.
It really doesn't bother me at all... the only game I have that is multiple disc's is Mass Effect 2. When ME:2 tells you to change discs, it's only that one time and you'll never need to swap again until you do another playthrough.
Having said that though, I'm not saying I don't think that should be improved/streamlined in future consoles. I do envy the PS3's capability of never needing to swap discs. Just that it really isn't a big deal for now.
Lol, I still have some of my old computers setup from time to time... uhmmm I know this is a more modern era but try remembering back the eighties/early ninties and floppy disks. I still have memories of loading exile on my acorn electron with a cassette recorder (Still got it) and my brother turned the power off from the fuse box just after it had loaded LOL. That hurt!
Changing a cd... yea should be a thing of the past ... I mean how bad really is it??? Ur going to lose your horizontal position for about 10 seconds?? Jeez!! Sounds like whiney lazy kids to me... in the words of Eric Cartman "MUUUUMMMM TOILET"
I remember a game with 8 diskettes I think it was. Good times." I quite like multi disk games. Feels old school. "
Black Dahlia. (Atleast I think it was that game..)
" No but it can limit the player under certain circumstances. In Mass Effect 2, this meant that once you made the transition to the 2nd disc, you couldn't go back to any of the places you visited during the first part of the game. For better or for worse, all those zones no longer existed in the universe because of the 2 disc requirement. Obviously, the same thing was true on the PC version, but the game was designed with being on a console primarily. "There was no disk swapping on the PC version.
" Snake, you need to change to DISK TWO. Oh wait, this is a blu-ray. Glad I have a PS3. "Oh the irony of using MGS4 as an example of the PS3 not having disc changes being better than other consoles.
I would rather have had the game on multiple discs than sit though the lengthly repeated installs for each chapter. Changing a disc is far faster than waiting for a game to install itself multiple times. on the other hand it did give time for making dinner or writing a small novel while waiting to... "play" the game.
I dont think its really needed at this point to have changing discs as forza 3 illustrated with the option to install the second disc's content straight onto the HDD. More games should make this an option. simply make the second disc none playable without putting the first disc in to boot from for people without hard drives... actually dont bother. you dont have a hard drive at this point why bother having the console in the first place. thats like not having the internet and owning a ps3 or 360, just dumb.
I find it weird to see it these days.
Mass Effect 2 on the PC never told me to pop in Disc 2 though on the 360. It's like Disc 1, then Disc 1, and then Disc 1 again.
I don't care how Old School it is, by now it's fucking dumb
I guess one thing would be with having to switch discs is that you know approximately where you are in the game-so if you finish disc 1 of 2, you know you should be around halfway. I like that when it is a long game-shows that I have someways to go-but it can work pretty badly if the game isn't as long as you think it would be due to its discs.
Does paying for a mediocre unreliable Microsoft product bother you?
green = no.
blue = yes.
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Im not really bothered. Unless its ones of those games where halfway through something it says *insert disc 2* then theres 10 minutes of loading then you piut disc 1 back and nothing has changed, then I guess its irritating. All in good fun when its a good game, its the only excercise some people get ;P
@ajamafalous: I know, I meant that the game was built a specific way with the console in mind and then those same limitations were applied to the PC version even though they didn't need to be for parity's sake.
Nope. It did when I only had a 20GB Xbox 360, because after saving the second disc for Forza 3, along with disc one, I only had enough space for a few demos! :(
If someone "hates" this, he needs to look at him/herself and GTFO.
There's more stuff to complain about then just the amount of discs the game is on.
I don't really mind. Hadn't experienced it before I played Mass Effect 2 but it wasn't much of a hassle. I sit maybe two meters from my xbox so it's just a matter of standing up and walking two steps forward. It only bothered me when I put the disc in, wanted to go to another region and had to get up just after sitting down. But in the end, it's not something I complain about
ONE disc bothers me. I hate dealing with fucking discs. Steam has spoiled me to the point where I view disc based media as about as ancient as floppies. Everything should be digital and stored on hard drives by now. Bring on the future.
" @metalhead87: Did you ever go back and try to find the place where you picked up "The Professor"? That whole section of the Omega station is closed off once you switch discs. Two guards now block you from re-entering.I'm pretty sure those kind of areas close off as soon as you finish them...not because you switched disc. All of the story levels are closed off after you finish 'em from what I remember. I'm working on another play through right now, so I'll have to try and remember to check it out.
It doesn't really matter to me if a game has more than one disc, I don't mind having to move a few feet to switch them. That being said, I buy a lot of my games for the PS3 so I haven't really had to deal with it since I played the first Metal Gear Solid a while back.
" @LiquidPrince: Or you could play it on Steam and have no discs at all :). Answering the question though yes it does annoy me, I've only ever had to do it for PC game installs and PS1 games but I found it was a real inconvenience and broke my gaming flow. "Nah, I like physically owning my things, and that will never change.
" @InfamousBIG: But then you have to sit and wait 5-7min for it to install a different chapter to the HDD. Hardly a substitute worth braggin about. Actually makes them look stupid for using that joke (they are taking longer then a disc swap would do). "Yo you get to watch Snake Smoke for 7 minutes quite complaining.
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