For the love of GOD can we stop with End-Game Torso Boss Fights?

The last two games I've completed have ended with me fighting a giant monster torso. There's of course only so much you can do with that scenario; shootin arms, head it explodes- credits. Still, it would have been funny if Apocalypse rose up and I had to kill his arm, oldskool style.

Which games are you talking about?

are you talking about FEAR 3?

Maybe boos fights, in general, are a thing of the past. Too many game do them poorly.

@the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG said:

are you talking about FEAR 3?

Ok, three games i've beaten in a row have had torso boss fights. The others are *Spoilers I guess*

Hunted and Dungeon Siege III.

Yea i would say something needs to be different to the end boss. Hell, i would be ok with just a cut scene with a brutal kill.

Boss fights were best when they had signature music like in the olden days.

Nothin beats the boss fights in God of War 3 

Is this a concept yet? I love it.

Mass effect and MVC3 srping to mind!

boss fights are awesome. more games need boss fights. they need to do them better in a way.

@the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG said:

are you talking about FEAR 3?

Ok, three games i've beaten in a row have had torso boss fights. The others are *Spoilers I guess*

Hunted and Dungeon Siege III.

Too many of these type of boss fights in general, not only in the end of games. Just beat Batman: Arkham Asylum there was one there. The God of War and Zelda series come to mind as well. Oh, looks like I gotta hit a weak point and then he'll lean his head in and then I hit that for critical damage huh? I agree this should totally be a concept if it isn't already.

Boss fights are a lazy ass fucking way to bring closure to a story thread. Especially ones which entail glowing body parts.

You're right, that is a fucking lame trope. I'm not inherently against the idea of a boss fight, but lazy ones like those suck.

what is a recent game (let's say past 3 years) that has had a good final boss fight?

At least in Mass Effect 2 the thing had an excuse for not using it's lower body.  In Ninety Nine Nights 2 you fight a goddamn huge dragon's upper torso.  What the hell, why are you swinging your arms at me every 10 seconds?  Just fly up here and lay down on top of me and I'd be fucked...

@HerbieBug said:

@mrangryface said:

@the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG said:

are you talking about FEAR 3?

Ok, three games i've beaten in a row have had torso boss fights. The others are *Spoilers I guess*

Hunted and Dungeon Siege III.

You should fire up Mass Effect 2. Keep this roll going. :D

Hah, I DID do a second playthrough earlier this year. I think the fact that the last 3 torso fights I experienced were in such mediocre games shows that its definitely some indication that a game is probably not great (ME2 aside)- of course you dont see this indicator until its too late; too late for any of us.

First one of those I fought was in Smash TV

Boss fights are pretty much only good in games in which you have a sword, or Metal Gear Solid. 
 
I mean, Zelda, SotC, Chrono Trigger, Dragon Age, and the Final Fantasy series all have great boss fights, and they all have swords. 

Too many bosses in games try and make things be too epic or crazy, but it's like the whole Star Wars prequel thing. Even though the fight scenes had better choreography and special effects than those in the original movie, they were nowhere near as entertaining or meaningful because you didn't care about what was happening. The fight in Mass Effect against Saren was great because you had been tracking down this guy the whole entire time, and seeing the horrible things he had done. On the other hand, the final boss battle in Mass Effect 2 was completely meaningless, as you were just introduced to this enemy, and honestly didn't care about him. 

Game designers can sometimes throw the baby out with the bath water. In their effort to make something epic, they make it too different from the rest of the game.

As for Dungeon Siege 3 specifically, forget the boss, the only thing I wanted at the end of that game was an apology. There's no way a game of that shallow depth should be released for $60 in 2011.

@the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG said:

are you talking about FEAR 3?

Ok, three games i've beaten in a row have had torso boss fights. The others are *Spoilers I guess*

Hunted and Dungeon Siege III.

@Floppypants said:

Game designers can sometimes throw the baby out with the bath water. In their effort to make something epic, they make it too different from the rest of the game.

As for Dungeon Siege 3 specifically, forget the boss, the only thing I wanted at the end of that game was an apology. There's no way a game of that shallow depth should be released for $60 in 2011.

I liked the game, but the ending was bunk. They never even fully explained who the fuck the radiant youth is. BAHHH

A torso boss fight? Oh the humanity!

Best boss fight ever...
 
  

Best boss fight ever...
 
  

@harinosho: A good end-boss fight should challenge the player by forcing them to bring everything they've learned to the table either by introducing them to variations of encounters from earlier in the game or challenge them even more with something completely new. Again, imo a torso end-boss fight is kind of a sign that the rest of the game was probably not that great- since its a good indication that the developers are admiting that the players learned nothing- that the developer doesn't have the potential player experiences in their toolkit to make the experience richer.

Fuck cannon enemy fodder fights.

The last fight in Dungeon Siege 3 was great.  You could farm the enemies to get the max level and it wasn't a cheap fight.  And on the other side is Metro 2033 where you just run down a stupid little maze thing.

@Pyrgz: BAYONETTA.

You know what was awesome? 
The Boss in MGS3. 
100 times better than fighting any unimaginative lame torso-boss.

Stick on Lost planet 1 & 2 and you get to do it with almost EVERY enemy. Yay?

Diablo 2....Duriel, i hated every f***ing pixel of that bastard, lesser evil my ass.

Well would you rather fight just the legs?

Boss Fights themselves should go away.

play demon's souls

Well would you rather fight just the legs?

@Pyrgz: PixelJunk Shooter 2 has awesome boss fights.

@BombKareshi said:

Boss fights were best when they had signature music like in the olden days.

I'm a big fan of Persona 4's boss music.

Worst boss fight moment for me was in P3 when the final boss mind controlled MC, who just happened to have Titania out and it full healed itself fuuuuuuuuuu

I loved that Halo didn't feel the need to have a last boss or any other kind of silly giant monster appear that you'd have to fight and still managed to have an amazing final act.

Of course they messed it up with the sequel, but at the time I appreciated it a lot.

Reach's ending ruled

I would take a million torso bosses over a COD mudercycle with respawning enemies.

anybody remember the last boss in Super Smash Brothers for the gameboy?  such a hard boss...

I can't think of an action game that DOESN'T have a giant torso boss fight. Ocarina of Time, Arkham Asylum, Witcher 2, Deep Space, Borderlands, Hunted, Mass Effect, and Gears of War 2 all have giant torso boss fights at some point.
 
WTB giant torso boss fight wiki page.

Boss fights are pretty much only good in games in which you have a sword, or Metal Gear Solid.  I mean, Zelda, SotC, Chrono Trigger, Dragon Age, and the Final Fantasy series all have great boss fights, and they all have swords.