people bashing mmorpg suck on console

people bashing mmorpg suck on console cause of the many abilities and icons and inputs. saying it is better on keybaord cause many button and inputs. well thats just stereotype.
 
and that is why dc universe getting negative view. that is stereotype that mmorpg suck on console.
 
ofcourse if a mmorpg is made for console, they will make it so that it will fit the platform. its like japanese anime, dub will always have extra tweaks to fit the line and english structure. sometimes dub must add something extra to fill the gap cause english and japanes is different language. dub will try best to be as near translation as japanese. same goes to mmorpg on console. some people just pee their pants before drinking 4 gallons of orange juice in a day.
 
plus dc universe is priorty on ps3 than pc. so dc universe is safe to say a full fledge console title mmorpg and everything is bult absolute for effectiveness on console .

Entirely friendly advice, I'd edit your post.

This post is giving me a headache.

This thread is sure going places

Suck my console.

Okay, here are my two favorite quotes:
 
"cause english and japanes is different language"
 
"some people just pee their pants before drinking 4 gallons of orange juice in a day."

This post almost makes no sense.

" Entirely friendly advice, I'd edit your post. "

Leave the dude alone, English probably isn't his first language. Stop being dicks, please.

" Okay, here are my two favorite quotes:  "cause english and japanes is different language"  "some people just pee their pants before drinking 4 gallons of orange juice in a day." "

 some people just pee their pants before drinking 4 gallons of orange juice in a day.   

" @AnnouncerGXZ said:

 some people just pee their pants before drinking 4 gallons of orange juice in a day.   

This "

" Leave the dude alone, English probably isn't his first language. Stop being dicks, please. "

" Suck my console. "

Hell yeah bro, preach!!!!

" Hell yeah bro, preach!!!! "

So this topic has turned into a bashing? I personally see your points but I must say I find an MMO easier to play with a mouse and keyboard.
 
I think the juice statement he is trying to make is like judging a book by its cover, well among those lines.
 
Also yes, his English is bad, but come on guys it's easy enough to read. If you can't read it without it blowing your mind then you need to go back to English class too.

You should all feel pretty good about alienating some dude because of some complex. Well done on being a bunch of dicks.
 
I think console MMO's are hard to work. The breadth of combat abilities pretty much demand multi key input that only a keyboard can give

To add to the OP I think console MMOs will be the future. It wouldn't be very hard at all as consoles already have a USB port, which means you could hook a keyboard to it. Thus eliminating any barrier between PC and consoles. 
 
Which is why I find it silly when an MMO developer says they'd have to program the game to run on a controller for consoles. No you don't, just tell us to get a USB keyboard and we'll be good to go. 
 
The technology exists now!

I don't think we've seen a proper MMO built with consoles in mind yet so it's difficult to say how enjoyable one might be.  Phantasy Star is more of a hub world game and FFXI was made for the PC first.  Sadly, Microsoft keeps killing or stalling all of its attempts at an MMO, but perhaps PS3 will succeed with FFIV, The Agency and the above mentioned DC Online.  Until one shows up, I can't say either way whether the adoption of the genre by consoles is effective.  The first thing a game designer would need to do is get rid of the EQ/WOW template for combat.  Go with something straight up action like Mass Effect 2, InFamous and Ninja Gaiden, all of which had some sort of leveling involved in their skill structure. 

I think we just need to see a MMO made for consoles (that doesn't suck) before it becomes a popular thing to do.

Ok fine, the DC mmo might have been designed specifically for the PS3, but if you play a MMO on a console you're still a fucking loser.  Be a man and play them on the pc like god and nature intended.  

I guess I should start with a warning stating that English isn't my first language, as dick-season seems to have started early this year.  
 
What I don't understand is how MMO's and keystrokes-per-minute became synonymous. It seems to stem from the days of D&D where spells where canceled with spells that would cancel the cancel-spells. All of this being translated directly to a keyboard making an MMO's gameplay feel like The Typing Of The Dead.  The MMO as a genre is one of the most stale and uninspired branches in the videogame industry. While seemingly more straightforward outlets like First Person Shooters have shown in this generation alone, what can be done in terms of immersion, storytelling and most importantly gameplay, the MMO drivels on with an army of PC gamers laughing at the console-gamers as they show of their constant hardware upgrading, yet playing the same goddamn games for the past 20 years which on their own could just as well be done with paper and pencil. (I still consider myself both a PC- and console gamer, again with the disclaimers on this site...) 
 
I've been playing quite a lot of Demon's Souls lately, with it's simple shield/sword = left button/right button configuration, it blew me away at how exhilarating the PvP was. I guess time will tell with games like Final Fantasy XIV how this generation of console will react to MMORPG's. But like I said earlier, I believe a breath of fresh air originality wise is what I'm craving for the most in the MMO industry. Perhaps a reenactment of a war for the next COD spanning over three years, I'm just throwing it out there.  

I can see someone making a console MMORPG that works sometime in the future. PS3 does have mouse and keyboard support?

I could never get into MMOs.  It's not even a PC vs. Console thing.

aren't most MMOs for consoles made for the PC first, then ported to the consoles?  
 
if i heard correctly, wasn't that new FFXIV PS3 MMO built for the PS3? in that case, there could be hope 

MMOs for PC is better in my opinion because all the abilities and things you have to do, then again if it was like AoC type fighting with combos instead of ability buttons that could work better. I guess if it was built up the right way it might work.

Unless you want your mmo to be the dumbest thing ever, aka having like 4 abilities, or just making combat extremely slow paced so that you can click thru a menu. (Which I don't see any Halo people doing) then no, controllers are not a good fit for MMO's atleast traditional ones.

Consoles simply don't have enough buttons to compensate for all the different abilities and skills a good MMO should have
Although you should try to edit your post, I got a headache trying to decipher what you wrote

I think I get what your trying to say. I would say that an MMO like some other genres are definitely suited to the PC rather then console. However that doesn't mean they can't work.

People are always negative about new things until someone proves that it can work. I don't know how anyone could make an MMO work on consoles, but I'm sure someone will figure it out eventually. 
 
Also, ignore the dicks making fun of your language skills. I bet almost none of them would even understand more than ten words of your language.

I think OP raises a valid point. The trick would (I guess) be to make an MMORPG exclusively for consoles, which plays to the strengths of the system it's released on. It's probably pretty difficult to make one that satisfies the demographic that plays them on PC, but maybe someone who mainly plays console games would be looking for a different experience anyway. I don't know much about the development of DC Universe Online though, and it seems like they could easily drop the ball on either platform by focusing on one or the other too much.  
 
As for the people bashing the guy, think about how difficult it would be for people who primarily speak English if Chinese had evolved as the main language of the internet. Food for thought.

I think a console MMO could work. If you make a big deal out of contextualized menus and such you can have a lot of functions assigned to each button. I. E. RB+B having different functions than RT+B and B, and even more functions when hovering over an object. But I know I would probably not buy one since MMO's have zero appeal to me.

" I guess I should start with a warning stating that English isn't my first language, as dick-season seems to have started early this year.  
 
What I don't understand is how MMO's and keystrokes-per-minute became synonymous. It seems to stem from the days of D&D where spells where canceled with spells that would cancel the cancel-spells. All of this being translated directly to a keyboard making an MMO's gameplay feel like The Typing Of The Dead.  The MMO as a genre is one of the most stale and uninspired branches in the videogame industry. While seemingly more straightforward outlets like First Person Shooters have shown in this generation alone, what can be done in terms of immersion, storytelling and most importantly gameplay, the MMO drivels on with an army of PC gamers laughing at the console-gamers as they show of their constant hardware upgrading, yet playing the same goddamn games for the past 20 years which on their own could just as well be done with paper and pencil. (I still consider myself both a PC- and console gamer, again with the disclaimers on this site...)  I've been playing quite a lot of Demon's Souls lately, with it's simple shield/sword = left button/right button configuration, it blew me away at how exhilarating the PvP was. I guess time will tell with games like Final Fantasy XIV how this generation of console will react to MMORPG's. But like I said earlier, I believe a breath of fresh air originality wise is what I'm craving for the most in the MMO industry. Perhaps a reenactment of a war for the next COD spanning over three years, I'm just throwing it out there.   "

a console mmo could work, but it would have to be developed purely for a console! 
if it was to be released on pc as well, the console input method would limit the mmo compared to other pc ones such as wow

 
 Oh, and yeah maybe this guys English isn't incredible but maybe you should question your own English skills if you can't work out what he is trying to get across.

" You should all feel pretty good about alienating some dude because of some complex. Well done on being a bunch of dicks.  I think console MMO's are hard to work. The breadth of combat abilities pretty much demand multi key input that only a keyboard can give "

" Also yes, his English is bad, but come on guys it's easy enough to read. If you can't read it without it blowing your mind then you need to go back to English class too. "

Just make it so people play it with a keyboard...  USB keyboards already work on PS3 and 360, and MMOs or semi-MMOs have come out that support them.
 
Make it so you have to go through 3 menus on a gamepad but it's a single button on a keyboard.  It's not so hard.  Maybe even support the chatpad on 360...

I always look forward to your latest threads, Announcer. ^^

I've never played a console MMORPG. DC Universe or FFXIV may be the exception; however, I am not going to do anything with a monthly subscription.

" Leave the dude alone, English probably isn't his first language. Stop being dicks, please. "

" To add to the OP I think console MMOs will be the future. It wouldn't be very hard at all as consoles already have a USB port, which means you could hook a keyboard to it. Thus eliminating any barrier between PC and consoles.   Which is why I find it silly when an MMO developer says they'd have to program the game to run on a controller for consoles. No you don't, just tell us to get a USB keyboard and we'll be good to go.   The technology exists now! "

  
 you should question your own English skills if you can't work out what he is trying to get across.
 

" Suck my console. "

" @Erzs said:

  
 you should question your own English skills if you can't work out what he is trying to get across.
 

Exactly what I said :) "