Who dropped the ball most???

Of all three console manufacturers this generation, who do you feel has had the most major ball droppage? To show you where they have dropped the ball, I have a short list:

Xbox: RRoD, of course. The disc drive problem and a lack of XBL servers also have been faults.
PS3: 600 bucks at launch, difficult development, large amounts of delays on games.
Wii: Motion control imprecision at launch,  E3 2008,  "abandonment of the hardcore."

What do you think? I won't post my opinions, because I want the general tone of the article to be neutral. No flaming of one another, and correct grammar is a plus.

Well I know most of the Xbox people have not had any sort of ball droppage.

wii, because when it comes down to it the games are all that matter, and the wii definatly doesn't have those.  Even the new third party games everyone is talking about like the conduit don't look very good.

Oh god, Nintendo all the way.

"wii, because when it comes down to it the games are all that matter, and the wii definatly doesn't have those.  Even the new third party games everyone is talking about like the conduit don't look very good."

Nintendo. What the hell happened?

PS3 delayed launch and lack of games, but its improving. The wii for being all casual.

RROD or the launch of the PS3.

Third party support for the Wii.

The whole casual thing is bogus because Nintendo is still releasing core games on a schedule like they did with their other consoles such as the GC. Just because they release Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Fit, Wii Music and the Brain Ages series some people seem to think that Nintendo is only focusing on the casual which is just not true. They focus on both.

Nintendo has lost focus on third party support though IMO. Hopefully they gain some ground with WiiWare.

"ArchScabby said:

"wii, because when it comes down to it the games are all that matter, and the wii definatly doesn't have those.  Even the new third party games everyone is talking about like the conduit don't look very good."

"... games are all that matter, and the wii definatly doesn't have those"

Why no, the Wii hasn't come out with a game at all. People buy it, turn it on and do nothing.
Somehow they're selling well, although they had a problem for a while with not making enough Wii's to meet demand.

Anyways I'd say the Playstation's launch fiasco was the worst for dropping the ball. But at least they're recovering."

I believe Nintendo dropped the ball. It may not show in the number, but personally I feel the system is a joke and that WiiMotion+ is worse than the 360's RROD. I know that most everyone will not agree with me at all, but that is just my opinion.

"I believe Nintendo dropped the ball. It may not show in the number, but personally I feel the system is a joke and that WiiMotion+ is worse than the 360's RROD. I know that most everyone will not agree with me at all, but that is just my opinion."

"Kush said:

"I believe Nintendo dropped the ball. It may not show in the number, but personally I feel the system is a joke and that WiiMotion+ is worse than the 360's RROD. I know that most everyone will not agree with me at all, but that is just my opinion."

What do you mean by Wii Motion+ being like RRoD? How do they compare?"

"What do you mean by Wii Motion+ being like RRoD? How do they compare?"

One of the main arguments supporting Wii Motion+ not coming at launch was that it would have made the system more expensive than it should have been, therefore not catering to the appeal of some. I think it should have been at launch, but I understand their reasoning for it not being at launch. I could in no way compare it to RRoD. That's like comparing Hitler to Kurt Kobain because they both supposedly committed suicide.

Saying my comparison between between MS/RROD and Nintendo/WiiMotion+ is like comparing Hitler and Kurt Kobain because they both supposedly committed suicide is just disgusting and sick. I'm sorry that everyone here loves to hate the RROD so much. How about this: The 360/RROD is as bad as the PS2 and it's orignal design. Oh, wait...the PS2 was a great system and any hardware issue they had is ok because it's Sony. Whatever, I just hate the way people accept all the crap Nintendo does...

"Giantkitty said:

"ArchScabby said:

"wii, because when it comes down to it the games are all that matter, and the wii definatly doesn't have those.  Even the new third party games everyone is talking about like the conduit don't look very good."

"... games are all that matter, and the wii definatly doesn't have those"

Why no, the Wii hasn't come out with a game at all. People buy it, turn it on and do nothing.
Somehow they're selling well, although they had a problem for a while with not making enough Wii's to meet demand.

Anyways I'd say the Playstation's launch fiasco was the worst for dropping the ball. But at least they're recovering."

don't take things so literal, you know what I mean when I say the wii doesn't have games.  Also the wii doesn't sell games very well, yeah a lot of people are buying it, but they just play wii sports for a month and then it goes in the storage closet."

Sony. No question.

800$ launch, terrible online in till now, a shit-ton of SKUs, axing BC, axing flash card readers, axing SACD support, poor amount of downloadable games, no XMB or trophies at launch, delaying Home and Life a ton, alienating third and first party developers, being too damn cheap to bother with exclusives.

Nintendo

Nintendo.

Well, the Wii just doesn't cater well enough for all people.

"ArchScabby said:

"Giantkitty said:

"ArchScabby said:

"wii, because when it comes down to it the games are all that matter, and the wii definatly doesn't have those.  Even the new third party games everyone is talking about like the conduit don't look very good."

"... games are all that matter, and the wii definatly doesn't have those"

Why no, the Wii hasn't come out with a game at all. People buy it, turn it on and do nothing.
Somehow they're selling well, although they had a problem for a while with not making enough Wii's to meet demand.

Anyways I'd say the Playstation's launch fiasco was the worst for dropping the ball. But at least they're recovering."

don't take things so literal, you know what I mean when I say the wii doesn't have games.  Also the wii doesn't sell games very well, yeah a lot of people are buying it, but they just play wii sports for a month and then it goes in the storage closet."

No I don't know what you mean. It doesn't have enough games? The games suck? Not enough hardcore games? You can only do those exercise things on it? If you don't want to be lampooned, don't make such vague statements. I'm not playing guessing games as to what you could mean. All I got from you is "I'm a Wii hater"

As to the games not selling well, just go to Wikipedia - Mario Galaxy  has sold over 6 million copies, for instance."

"Saying my comparison between between MS/RROD and Nintendo/WiiMotion+ is like comparing Hitler and Kurt Kobain because they both supposedly committed suicide is just disgusting and sick.

I'd go with the Wii, because as much as I wanted to love it. It all felt to much like a gimic in the end. XBOX 360 as been solid enough with good online services and I have never had any RROD Problems *touch wood*. I also like the PS3 a lot and think its had a solid start.

But the Wii was way way overhyped. I'll happily admit I hardly play it now and have little care for games coming out for the system.

nintendo. xbox hardware problems are slowly going away, and ps3s library is getting better. also i heard that ps online is getting better. nintendos real 3 pillars are now wii sports, wii fit, and wii music. seriously, why did they screw over their real fans? casual fans may not be back the next generation, and hardcore fans have moved on.

Nintendo messed up so bad. This is like the downfall. I rarely play me Wii now because there are no good games except Smash right now... and that is pretty much it.

Nintendo. Wii was OK the first year around. after i got a 360 last christmas, wii = dust collector. I brush it off every few months to play smash bros brawl....for an hour tops. After watching E3 2008, im contemplating on whether to sell it, keep it, or just beat the living shit out of it with a sledge hammer and take pics. Thats how angry I am at nintendo.

ok, Nintendo, they drop something, it not the ball but it hardcore fan base. Let face it, were no longer there tagger costumer. It look like Nintendo is doing a switch from making games to software to help you organize your life. Just look the software on DS, Brain Age, Brain Academy, Nintendog, the map of Tokyo or the cooking book, can you even call them game anymore.

"ok, Nintendo, they drop something, it not the ball but it hardcore fan base. Let face it, were no longer there tagger costumer. It look like Nintendo is doing a switch from making games to software to help you organize your life. Just look the software on DS, Brain Age, Brain Academy, Nintendog, the map of Tokyo or the cooking book, can you even call them game anymore."

This thread might as well be renamed "which console do you hate the most, 360 fanboys, ps3 fanboys, and wii fanboys".

The 360 fans will say the PS3
The PS3 fans will say the 360
The Wii fans will say the 360 and the PS3

"This thread might as well be renamed "which console do you hate the most, 360 fanboys, ps3 fanboys, and wii fanboys".

The 360 fans will say the PS3
The PS3 fans will say the 360
The Wii fans will say the 360 and the PS3"

nintendo...(sigh) i regret ever buying the wii what a fail console

I guess it depends.  Hardcore gamers will say Nintendo dropped the ball by going ultra-casual... that is not going to change for quite some time.  I can see why people are saying that now, especially since Nintendo has nothing really lined up for the core base, except for maybe Animal Crossing: City Folk.

However from a business standpoint, both Microsoft and Sony dropped the ball.  The Red Ring of Death snafu cost Microsoft way too much money, which is a shame because they have been solid on most fronts.  Sony simply released something that was too ahead of its time... sure Blu-ray won the format war, but it cost Sony way too much money and their casual base.  $600 for a launch console is a lot and $400 is still too much for many.  Nintendo, on the other hand, is swimming in cash thanks to their cheaper hardware and crazy-high 1st party sales.  Nintendo made billions while Sony and Microsoft have lost billions.

"This thread might as well be renamed "which console do you hate the most, 360 fanboys, ps3 fanboys, and wii fanboys".

The 360 fans will say the PS3
The PS3 fans will say the 360
The Wii fans will say the 360 and the PS3"

"Well I know most of the Xbox people have not had any sort of ball droppage."

The Wii. I like my Wii but I've been really disappointed with it.