WM has been sold.
When WM made bad management decisions (and honestly, the entire history of WM is riddled with stupid choices) we always had the ability to show our numbers and convince them to change. There was not some labyrinthine chain of corporate command when decisions came down from on high that affected us. We could be heard. You're right that GB has flirted with disaster before, but we got them out of it because the people in charge were not out of reach. When something goes bad going forward, I fear for how we solve the problem.
I'm also really scared about something I've been worried about for the last year already; I don't want Giant Bomb to lose it's identity. I fear that's a lost cause by now, however.
@mylifeforAiur said:
You guys seem to be forgetting the most important addition to the Giantbomb arsenal: Occasional visits from Kevin VanOrd. And maybe, just maybe, Giantbomb will improve Gamespot. Remain sanguine, duders.
Pshh. VanOrd is teensy potatocakes. Not thinking big enough dude...
Homer. Fucking. Rabara.
If you don't have faith in the crew now, then you never did, and your supposedly broken "loyalty" is a sham. If I realized anything about these guys, it's their honesty, transparency, and integrity.
I say congrats to the team, and hope you stay as awesome as always.
@Ragdrazi said:
@KROMEangel: There is nothing the team can do against CBS's shareholders demanding the site be monetized. There is no way they can maintain complete creative control over the wishes of CBS's board of directors. They are not omnipotent beings. I have faith in the crew. But not the sort of faith you have.
I assume that the site will be mostly the same. Changes will happen though. Maybe less cursing, less going off topic on the bombcast, and shorter podcasts (capped at 2 hours instead of 3). Video content will probably stay the same though.
The site will need to become not only profitiable but increasingly more profitable as it goes. There is no way to do that without making this site much more closely resemble Gamespot in terms of premium accounts and ad content.@Ragdrazi said:
@KROMEangel: There is nothing the team can do against CBS's shareholders demanding the site be monetized. There is no way they can maintain complete creative control over the wishes of CBS's board of directors. They are not omnipotent beings. I have faith in the crew. But not the sort of faith you have.I assume that the site will be mostly the same. Changes will happen though. Maybe less cursing, less going off topic on the bombcast, and shorter podcasts (capped at 2 hours instead of 3). Video content will probably stay the same though.
Well, i guess it's time to find a new gaming website...destructoid maybe? It's been real guys.
@courtney12490 said:
@pwnmachine said:
I have a feeling Sara had a lot more to do with this than we may think...
Why?
Because she's a woman, and we all know they are snakes, SNAKES IN THE GRASS!
I don't know how I feel about this. On the one hand, I'm crazy happy for the guys at Tested since they get to work with the Mythbusters and I'm pleased that Jeff and the Giant Bomb team have patched things up with Gamespot, but on the other hand the loss of this interconnected family of media information (games, comics, movies, tech) that allowed for crazy cross disciplinary interactions has now been disassembled. And I know all the talk about making sure that they keep in touch, but it still means that they aren't going to be all interacting together as a unit, and that is still somewhat depressing. Plus, what happens to Screened is still up in the air right now.
I don't know, man. I'm still probably net positive about the whole thing, but there are nagging elements of loss that keep coming back into the recesses of my mind, like a slow motion dancing Will Smith-in a penguin suit... of regret... I feel like this metaphor has imploded.
This whole situation is whatever, but it sucks there won't be a big live live show anymore..........
@kmg90 said:
@Ragdrazi said:
@Tebbit said:Anime Vice is so toast I can smell it from here.@LordXavierBritish said:
Why would somebody buy Anime Vice.The truest question of all.
Yeah, I don't see it lasting more 1 year maybe...
Maybe they bought it cause it has a big anime database. Someone send an email and ask.
@Mcfart: This is absolutely the sort of stuff that they explained would NOT change. Check Patrick's formspring for answers to a lot of the misconceptions in this thread.
I don't blame the owners for selling off the WM sites-building them up and selling them was the idea as far as I can tell. I hope the people involved made a lot of money. Good for them.
However, like many others have stated, I subscribed to support independent media, and by definition GB is no longer that. As long as the GB content stays awesome I'll keep consuming it. But subscribe and give money to CBS Interactive? No thanks.
I have a great deal of trouble believing that this won't change the content. Sorry, but this is business-money talks and bullshit walks. Some people are saying that CBS would not have bought the site if they planned to make changes. That to me seems to make the completely unwarranted assumption that businesses always make the right decisions. As others have said, sometime in the near future some CBS bean counter is going to ask whey they are spending so much money to maintain two video game websites, do a cost-benefit analysis, and that will be that.
I also don't put any faith in the fact that the GB people seem to optimistic about it. I mean seriously. Would you expect them to say otherwise? What are they going to say "Well, it wasn't working out and we had a chance to make a ton of money and we took it"? Again, I don't blame them, I would take a huge chunk of money in this case too. To think that nothing will change from this seems wildly optimistic, to say the least. I hope I am wrong, but I have difficulty not seeing this as the end of GB as we have known it.
@TenFootMonster: Giant Bomb got the good end of this deal, Comic Vine as well I guess. They have been so transparent about what they intend to do with these sites in the short term, and of course nobody except executives at CBSi know what their long term plans for the situation of having two competing video games sites are, and we can all see that it is a very precarious situation, but look at the 3 other sites that were bought. I haven't seen a peep from BermanBraun about what they're going to do with AnimeVice or Screened, which is code for they are getting shut down, and if you just load up Tested you can see how fucked up of a deal Will and Norm got. Just ride out this wave and see where its going, I think GB will be just fine.
@Miketorreza: I hope you're right. Like I said, I'll certainly give them a chance. As long as they continue to produce the content that I love I'll continue to visit the site. Not giving up on them by any means.
@Winternet said:
Hey, how are the duders at ComicVine handling this? I don't even know what this means to them.
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I'm mostly a Vine user, and I'm worried. What does Gamespot want with a comic book site? And of course, the wiki uses tech that got sold to a different firm. Converting it to MediaWiki will undoubtedly break a lot of stuff. I'd be gutted to lose the wiki database, especially all the uploaded comic book covers.
@Digifiend said:
@Winternet said:
Hey, how are the duders at ComicVine handling this? I don't even know what this means to them.
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I'm mostly a Vine user, and I'm worried. What does Gamespot want with a comic book site? And of course, the wiki uses tech that got sold to a different firm. Converting it to MediaWiki will undoubtedly break a lot of stuff. I'd be gutted to lose the wiki database, especially all the uploaded comic book covers.
Gamespot doesn't own Comicvine.
@Digifiend said:
@Winternet said:
Hey, how are the duders at ComicVine handling this? I don't even know what this means to them.
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I'm mostly a Vine user, and I'm worried. What does Gamespot want with a comic book site? And of course, the wiki uses tech that got sold to a different firm. Converting it to MediaWiki will undoubtedly break a lot of stuff. I'd be gutted to lose the wiki database, especially all the uploaded comic book covers.
Gamespot is owned by the folks who own Comic Vine, they do not own Comic Vine themselves. And it wouldn't be that odd, IGN covers comics and books and media in general. The CBSi family of sites seems pretty broad.
@Digifiend: Because they are similar sites, so the two are linked together. I expect eventually comic vine and giantbomb may be linked on gamespot eventually too. It's not a brand of ownership, it's just a link like Gamespot has links to the other sites. I believe they are also the only ones all in the same building so that's why they are so linked.
@VinceNotVance: Seperated. Screened/Anime Vice/Tested are over at BermanBraun. Tested is now the site of Jamie and Adam from the mythbusters but most articles and stuff are Will/Norm. Rorie left screend. ComicVine and Giantbomb are over at CBS interactive. Back at the same office where they were fired/quit from gamespot.
Yeahhh...imagine finding all this shit out day of. It was fucking bedlam!
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