Men with Higher Voices Have Higher Sperm Counts

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#1  Edited By Alfie_Parker

I found this article the other day and thought I'd share it with you here at Giantbomb because I found it pretty interesting. It's funny because people generally get the impression that men with deeper, baritone voices are more manly than men with naturally high pitched voices. With that, people tie in the more "manly" sounding men as having greater male virility than the less masculine sounding men. But this study actually says the opposite is true!  
 
"Evolutionary psychologists argue that when we find certain traits sexually attractive in others it may be because they signal reproductive fitness.  It goes something like this: People who have been sexually attracted to traits that tell the “truth” about genetic superiority have been more likely to choose mates with superior genetics and, therefore, have been more likely to produce healthy offspring that live to an age where they, in turn, can reproduce themselves.  Accordingly, nature has selected for individuals attracted to people who display signs of genetic excellence

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Culture throws a wrench in this theory because human can create their own systems of meaning, collectively convincing each other that certain traits are desirable regardless of the relationship between the trait and reproductive fitness.  The thinness ideal for women is an excellent example.  Judging by pop culture, heterosexual men have a strong preference for very thin women.  In fact, however, the weight idealized in mass media is not conducive to reproductive fitness; women won’t ovulate or menstruate below a certain weight because their body recognizes that it can’t support a pregnancy.
 

A new study by Leigh Simmons, Marianne Peters, and Gillian Rhodes — offers another tantalizing piece of information regarding the relationship between attractiveness and reproductive fitness. Pre-existing research shows that men with lower voices are judged more sexually attractive, so the authors decided to measure one indicator of their reproductive fitness, sperm count.

The results? Voice attractiveness is related  to sperm count, but in the opposite direction expected.  Men with higher voices, in fact, have higher sperm concentration, not lower.


The jury is still out about what this means, but it’s an intriguing addition to the ongoing conversation that social and biological scientists are having about how culture and nature interact to shape human experience."

 
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 Link to actual study: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0029271 
 
 Retrieved from: http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/
 
 
 I found this article pretty cool since my voice tended to be a bit lighter than the average guys' voice all throughout school and I'd get mocked for it every once in a while, but I guess the joke was on them! :D
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#2  Edited By TheWholeDamnShow

I don't like kids anyways.

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Poor Brad... I guess?

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#4  Edited By jking47

I don't get why most guys think having a higher sperm count is a good thing. It just means you are more likely to have kids. Which in my opinion seems like a bad thing.

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#5  Edited By Flawed_System

Wow, that's interesting.

I've been told I have a deep voice (I personally don't think it's very deep). That's a shame.

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#6  Edited By Sackmanjones

Neato

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#7  Edited By Animasta

fuck sperm

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#8  Edited By Dagbiker

@jking47 said:

I don't get why most guys think having a higher sperm count is a good thing. It just means you are more likely to have kids. Which in my opinion seems like a bad thing.

And sperm only works if you are having sex, if girls are making fun of you for having a high pitched voice then they probably wont turn around and have sex with you once you tell them you have a higher sperm count then the kids making fun of you.

But whatever makes you feel confident in yourself.

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#9  Edited By lockwoodx

Men with deeper voices get laid more often. STOP TAPPING US DRY LADIES!!!!

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#10  Edited By MikeGosot

I must have just one sperm then. Keep on surviving, bro. Keep on surviving.

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#11  Edited By JJOR64

SHIT

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#12  Edited By Toxeia

Only takes one to finish the job.

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#13  Edited By mikemcn

@TheVeteran13 said:

Poor Brad... I guess?

Dude gets to have all the fun with a lower risk of becoming a father. I don't see what there is to pity.

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#14  Edited By Video_Game_King

@TheVeteran13 said:

Poor Brad... I guess?

He doesn't seem to mind.
He doesn't seem to mind.
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#15  Edited By Example1013

Ok? I don't get how this is supposed to mean anything...

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#16  Edited By BonOrbitz

YER DAMN RIGHT I DO.

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#17  Edited By theguy

As far as I'm concerned there are two measurements for sperm count.

1.Have working sperm

2. Do not have working sperm

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#18  Edited By farmer

Concerned by the fairly low sample size combined with only 95% confidence of results.

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#19  Edited By Julmust

I've got all the sperm.

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#20  Edited By jimi

My voice can go high and be really deep, does that make me the best of both worlds?

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#21  Edited By spazmaster666

Since testosterone is the main reason why a man's voice gets deeper after puberty, a man with a deeper voice probably still has higher testosterone levels than a man with a higher voice, so you could still consider them more "manly" if testosterone levels are what you are going by.

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#22  Edited By Justin258

@lockwoodx said:

Men with deeper voices get laid more often. STOP TAPPING US DRY LADIES!!!!

Well, there's your answer folks. Deep-voiced men don't have as much sperm because they're too busy spending it.

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#23  Edited By MariachiMacabre

Oh man. The people going on the defensive over such a trivial thing are hilarious.

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#24  Edited By gamefreak9

I wish I did biology so I could have something really clever to say about castration and high pitch.

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#25  Edited By gamefreak9

@spazmaster666 said:

Since testosterone is the main reason why a man's voice gets deeper after puberty, a man with a deeper voice probably still has higher testosterone levels than a man with a higher voice, so you could still consider them more "manly" if testosterone levels are what you are going by.

what does testosterone do exactly?

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#26  Edited By hughesman

i have a fairly deep voice and i had no problem getting my wife pregnant so....in your face?

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#27  Edited By TEHMAXXORZ

It doesn't matter how much you have, they could all be defective and have like split tails or something. Quality > quantity.

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#28  Edited By Nux

Good, I didn't want kids anyway.

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#29  Edited By Animasta

@gamefreak9 said:

@spazmaster666 said:

Since testosterone is the main reason why a man's voice gets deeper after puberty, a man with a deeper voice probably still has higher testosterone levels than a man with a higher voice, so you could still consider them more "manly" if testosterone levels are what you are going by.

what does testosterone do exactly?

makes people masculine? is that a rhetorical question or something?

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#30  Edited By huser

@lockwoodx said:

Men with deeper voices get laid more often. STOP TAPPING US DRY LADIES!!!!

That was actually controlled for. Was it rigorous enough is the question.

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#31  Edited By huser

@Farmer said:

Concerned by the fairly low sample size combined with only 95% confidence of results.

95% is the bread and butter of science. Sample size, and throwing out their own (admittedly conservative) standard for significance p<.006 definitely hurts the power of their findings.

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#32  Edited By musubi
@TheWholeDamnShow All the better to bukkake with.
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#33  Edited By spazmaster666

@gamefreak9 said:

what does testosterone do exactly?

It's an androgen that has many, many effects on development, especially in pubertal males. These include libido, muscle growth, deepening of voice, Adam's apple development, sperm production, etc.

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#34  Edited By Harkat

That's very interesting. I tend to think people overestimate societal impact and underestimate genetics, but this seems very legit.

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#35  Edited By lockwoodx
@Harkat said:

I tend to think people overestimate societal impact and underestimate genetics, but this seems very legit.

Well I could give you a sample size of my voice, but your ears might get wet. Barry white 'aint got shit on me.
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#36  Edited By superfriend

*squeaky voice teen-voice* YEEEEEEHAAAAAAW!

Well, still funny how science is fucking obsessed with dicks. Literally. There´s a new study about stuff like that coming out every few days it seems.

I worked at a hospital once and even then they would test male enhancement drugs on my co-workers. Dudes are obsessed with dicks I guess.

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#37  Edited By gamefreak9

@spazmaster666 said:

@gamefreak9 said:

what does testosterone do exactly?

It's an androgen that has many, many effects on development, especially in pubertal males. These include libido, muscle growth, deepening of voice, Adam's apple development, sperm production, etc.

So I'm glad you filled it in for me... cause I was only aware of Libido and sperm as being directly related to testosterone... though I guess sperm is debatable now... ? I thought stats usually back up biology...

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#38  Edited By InternetCrab

This is the best thread ever. DAAAAAMN SON

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#39  Edited By gamer_152  Moderator

I'm not convinced by this study. The sample size seems pretty small (45 men) and an arguably biased sampling method was used ("participants were recruited by advertisement from the campus of the University of Western Australia").

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#40  Edited By scalpel

Now you can feel good about your girly voice. Good on you.

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#41  Edited By Subjugation

Anyone who knows anything about statistics would be skeptical of a small sample size. The grouping of the results isn't particularly tight either so it makes it harder to imply correlation. They should do the study again with at least a few hundred men before I place any confidence in it.

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#42  Edited By AlexanderSheen

I haven't heard any complaints.

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#43  Edited By Still_I_Cry

I would rather hold onto my romanticized version of love. Thank you.

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#44  Edited By Phatmac

@Animasta said:

fuck sperm

^ THIS

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#45  Edited By Scrawnto

It seems like this is only useful information if you're a woman who wants to get pregnant, or you have some creepy sperm count fetish. If you're a man, it's not like you can start speaking in a higher register to boost your count, so it's pretty much useless to know.

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#46  Edited By damnboyadvance

Hmm, 54 men were involved in the study? Good enough! I mean, that's a good sample size, right?

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That's not many dots up there. I'm assuming that a dot represents one person, if so, the sample isn't big enough to make an accurate conclusion. There's a lot of room for statistical discrepancy.

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#48  Edited By Hot_Karl

I also hear that the bigger the feet, the bigger the something.

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#49  Edited By TheWholeDamnShow

@Demoskinos said:

@TheWholeDamnShow All the better to bukkake with.

haha Gross... I think... what?

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#50  Edited By TheWholeDamnShow

@AlexanderSheen said:

I haven't heard any complaints.

That's only because hookers don't care.