Net Neutrality is dead

Internet providers will not be subjected to so-called "Net neutrality" rules and may experiment with tiered, usage-based pricing and "network management" practices, according to new rules being considered by the Federal Communications Commission this month.

Advocates of Net neutrality had hoped the regulatory agency would mandate Internet service providers treat all traffic equally: one of the Web's founding principles.

Instead, the FCC's Internet regulations adopts many proposals by search and telecom giants Google and Verizon, with the caveat that wireless telephone providers not block competing voice applications.

Terrible news.
 
But to be fair, you can't expect IPs to actually come up with fair and intelligent ways to maintain their ungodly profits can you?
I mean, sure everyone's cancelling cable and in lieu of services like Netflix, but you don't really think IPs are to blame just because they offer archaic, overpriced services do you?

GG time to start the internet again

I really don't know why you think net neutrality is a liberal owned issue. It falls outside of party lines, mostly because both sides are too out of touch to fully understand it.

Wonder how 4chan will react to this... 'Tis a sad day for the internets :'(

This may honestly be my greatest fear come to life.

And Google has instantly undone anything good they've ever done for the internet.

I'd be fine with this if the major providers actually GAVE US FAST INTERNET FOR A DECENT PRICE. 
 
But they don't, and now they're going to stack charges on top of that. 
 

ENGAGE THE DARKNET  

DIVE DIVE DIVE

It looks like I'll make my trip to Japan permanent instead of just a visit.

You know it's funny. The entire constitutional right of Americans to bear arms is so that the people can overthrow their corrupt government if need be. The problem is that Americans never utilize this right in the proper way, instead they whine about it at a recreational level instead of at a fundamental level. Combined with the fact that America is so dumbed down, the country is pretty much a prime example of why democracy isn't only a failure in a country where the majority is composed of half-retards, but that democracy in such a nation is downright dangerous. If this shit get's exported to other countries (I can see this happening in Canada with the US-dick suckers we have in government right now) I will be very pissed at you America. Very pissed indeed.

• So... I came to this thread and I was going to try to argue the other side of it.  But I wanted to have my ducks in a row.  I know that Comcast (my current provider) already has a bandwidth usage limit in effect of 250gb.  I got into my account info to see if I could track down my recent bandwidth usage.  Sure enough, I was able to find it.... and it wasn't as good as I thought it would be.....

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My girlfriend and I were just talking last night about how for a bunch of companies that provide us with one of the biggest advancements in communications tech in the last century, they sure don't understand anything about what they're doing (or at least that's how it appears to me as a consumer, based on the way my IP treats me)

They're still considering this right? It's not been decided on? Is there still hope?

" You know it's funny. The entire constitutional right of Americans to bear arms is so that the people can overthrow their corrupt government if need be. The problem is that Americans never utilize this right in the proper way, instead they whine about it at a recreational level instead of at a fundamental level. Combined with the fact that America is so dumbed down, the country is pretty much a prime example of why democracy isn't only a failure in a country where the majority is composed of half-retards, but that democracy in such a nation is downright dangerous. If this shit get's exported to other countries (I can see this happening in Canada with the US-dick suckers we have in government right now) I will be very pissed at you America. Very pissed indeed. "

Obama again displays his incomprehensible superpower of being on the wrong side of every single issue. 

They blocked websites and now this!?! 
It's time to find a new internet

" @RsistncE said:

" You know it's funny. The entire constitutional right of Americans to bear arms is so that the people can overthrow their corrupt government if need be. The problem is that Americans never utilize this right in the proper way, instead they whine about it at a recreational level instead of at a fundamental level. Combined with the fact that America is so dumbed down, the country is pretty much a prime example of why democracy isn't only a failure in a country where the majority is composed of half-retards, but that democracy in such a nation is downright dangerous. If this shit get's exported to other countries (I can see this happening in Canada with the US-dick suckers we have in government right now) I will be very pissed at you America. Very pissed indeed. "

And of course, if it happens in Canada, it won't be the fault of Canadian citizens so much as these cocksucking leaders. But every individual in America is responsible for this happening here. You're a real dullard you know that. I suppose every war Canada's helped America in they were "dragged into" by cock-sucking politicians as well. How nice for you, having a bogeyman to the south that relinquishes any kind of personal responsibility you have for your nation's state. "

The first article mentions these new laws are being 'considered' by the FCC. Is there any indication as to how likely they are to approve these proposed laws?

And they're hoping to do the same in the uk. Shit.

" Obama again displays his incomprehensible superpower of being on the wrong side of every single issue.  "

In your first month of presidency, you're shown secret papers that reveal a reality capable of turning you on every issue. 

" @ryanwho said:

" @RsistncE said:

" You know it's funny. The entire constitutional right of Americans to bear arms is so that the people can overthrow their corrupt government if need be. The problem is that Americans never utilize this right in the proper way, instead they whine about it at a recreational level instead of at a fundamental level. Combined with the fact that America is so dumbed down, the country is pretty much a prime example of why democracy isn't only a failure in a country where the majority is composed of half-retards, but that democracy in such a nation is downright dangerous. If this shit get's exported to other countries (I can see this happening in Canada with the US-dick suckers we have in government right now) I will be very pissed at you America. Very pissed indeed. "

And of course, if it happens in Canada, it won't be the fault of Canadian citizens so much as these cocksucking leaders. But every individual in America is responsible for this happening here. You're a real dullard you know that. I suppose every war Canada's helped America in they were "dragged into" by cock-sucking politicians as well. How nice for you, having a bogeyman to the south that relinquishes any kind of personal responsibility you have for your nation's state. "

Canadian citizens can't stop their officials from getting "ideas". I'm saying that I don't even want this shit to be considered in my country because it is outright fucking wrong in every way imaginable. Reality much? "

" @RsistncE: I forget sometimes you guys still have a monarch on your money. Then someone like you comes by and makes it obvious how uncomfortable you are with the idea of Canada being responsible for its own actions. "

" I really don't know why you think net neutrality is a liberal owned issue. It falls outside of party lines, mostly because both sides are too out of touch to fully understand it. "

"   Unsurprising considering that Obama has turned out to be another Democrat in name only, and is far too willing to side with Republicans rather than his own party.  "

" @ninjakiller said:

"   Unsurprising considering that Obama has turned out to be another Democrat in name only, and is far too willing to side with Republicans rather than his own party.  "

What?  Under what facts have you come to this result? "

" The first article mentions these new laws are being 'considered' by the FCC. Is there any indication as to how likely they are to approve these proposed laws? "

" @ninjakiller said:

"   Unsurprising considering that Obama has turned out to be another Democrat in name only, and is far too willing to side with Republicans rather than his own party.  "

What?  Under what facts have you come to this result? "

" @ryanwho said:

" @RsistncE: I forget sometimes you guys still have a monarch on your money. Then someone like you comes by and makes it obvious how uncomfortable you are with the idea of Canada being responsible for its own actions. "

I'm not even sure what to say to this. The sheer level of rhetoric in that statement makes me want to stab myself repeatedly in the face. Why do you even reply with one liners that no one can actually respond to in any civil manner? I mean, it's obvious enough that Canada is a fully sovereign nation (I imagine they DO teach you that at least in your geography courses...even if you can't point out most major countries on a map), so is it even really anything that needs to be brought up? Probably not, it's just that you choose to aggravate people instead of actually try to rebut the original statement in the first place and that was that the US stands in a position where it heavily influences the domestic and foreign policy of other countries. Pretty much fact. 
 
@Th3_James:                        o_O  Fucking brilliant, I never even thought about it that way. BRB. "

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE6B00AB20101201  
 
This is a less biased view of the entire situation for those interested in a less extremist view. 

" http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE6B00AB20101201   This is a less biased view of the entire situation for those interested in a less extremist view.  "

The proposal bars the operators of broadband lines into homes from blocking Web sites, applications or any devices that attach to their networks. It would also prevent carriers from “unreasonable discrimination” that would, for example, serve up Comcast’s Internet video service Xfinity faster and at better quality than that of rival Netflix.

For wireless networks, the rules are weaker. Mobile carriers such as Sprint Nextel, AT&T and T-Mobile would be prohibited from blocking competing voice and video applications such as Skype, Google Voice or Slingplayer. But wireless providers wouldn’t have the same rules against prioritizing certain applications and sites on their networks like cable and telecom firms.

" @ryanwho said:

" I really don't know why you think net neutrality is a liberal owned issue. It falls outside of party lines, mostly because both sides are too out of touch to fully understand it. "

Oh bullshit.  Back when Obama actually stood for real Network Neutrality Republicans brayed loudly for their corporate interests.   "

Can someone tell me what this actually means? If it's just that people/companies can see what you look at, what's the big deal?

Luckily this hasn't effected me yet, It would be a nightmare in this house, we've got 3 dudes playing WoW full time, 5 dudes contributing with all the porn that gets downloaded, not to mention the parents.

" Can someone tell me what this actually means? If it's just that people/companies can see what you look at, what's the big deal? "

This is yet another complex issue because it delves into a "necessary" product arena. Access to the internet has become as critical a part of everyday life as vehicular or aeronautical transportation. 
 
I believe that companies should have the freedom to provide the services, and at such prices, as they deem appropriate. That is integrated into the foundation of America. Freedom of speech, press, business. Just as a corporation is free to set exorbitant prices, so we are free to shop elsewhere. Demand drives prices, and prices drive demand; the basis of capitalism. The problem appears when a select few control the entire market, and there is no outside price pressure. Such is the case with the oil, airline, and ISP industries. Now, bringing in governmental "iron fist" tactics is the usual method of breaking down this hint of communism, but this is simply a case of market control being handed from the business to the government. 
 
The only way to truly combat this issue is for new competition to be introduced into the market, and for consumers to take action. Wal-Mart falls when people stop merely complaining about it, and actually start shopping elsewhere.

" @Wes899 said:

" Can someone tell me what this actually means? If it's just that people/companies can see what you look at, what's the big deal? "

I think it's about the pricing so that they could make your costs scale by how much you download.  Maybe I'm reading it wrong? I'm in Sweden anyway we already have Ubernet 2.0 "

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• So... I came to this thread and I was going to try to argue the other side of it.  But I wanted to have my ducks in a row.  I know that Comcast (my current provider) already has a bandwidth usage limit in effect of 250gb.  I got into my account info to see if I could track down my recent bandwidth usage.  Sure enough, I was able to find it.... and it wasn't as good as I thought it would be.....

      

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 Guess I ought to start worrying about this.            I blame patching WoW. "

HEY! PEOPLE! The voting isn't until December 21st. This hasn't happened yet. Chill out. 
 
 http://www.informationweek.com/news/government/policy/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=228500086&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All

ouch

I'm not the protesting kind, but if they touched my neutral internet here in the UK I would be leading the riots. 

Within 50 years the internet will be divided by countries and walled garden set top boxes and handhelds anyways.  These last decades were the wild west era of the internet.  Surely you see how the powers that be cannot let this thing slide.