I haven't wrote a thread in a long time, but I have an important question to ask. Here is a fictional scenario. What if the u.s dollar isn't worth anything anymore next year. Oil prices are though the roof, the world stopped trading oil in u.s dollars, collapsing it. The federal reserve which prints more money all the time to counter inflation (higher prices of everyday items like food, gas, clothes, rent) wasn't allowed to print more money anymore because only the country with the world's reserve currency are only allowed to print money (which is true btw).
Then the u.s and the world was introduced a new world currency which is purely digital. They say everyone gets some credits to start with if they support this to jump start the economy. Let's say the u.s economy was in a depression at that time next year at 2012, no one can afford anything anymore. But of course there is always a catch. The catch is that in order to use this new money, you have to implant a small microchip called the RFID chip (radio frequency indentity chip). Will you go for the idea? It won't hurt after a few hours, they might know your location at all times, know your spending habits, but it will solve the dollar devaluation problem, even though they might of caused it to start this program. The program is sponsored by the united nations and if you show defiance, they will simply turn off the chip and you will starve to death. If you co-operate, it will fix half the economy. Will you go for it or resist it? and why?
(i'm betting 90% of americans will totally jump head first into this program)
What if paper money is going to go all digital? will u support it
Like I said, i'm still betting 90% of americans will jump head first into this fictional scenario. I mean if you wanted to buy a lady gaga or mortal kombat game, you would need to scan your RFID chip and it will take credit out of it instead of using money.
" @Enigma777: even if they were accelating the economic downwards spiral today in order to achieve it? Where they have to destroy the u.s economy from within to do this? Does the ends justify the means? That everyone has to be in a depression first starving to death inorder for this to take place where they place a microchip into your skin and big brother can track you even more than before having total control like a dictatorship that's unchallenged? You will still go for it? Like I said, i'm still betting 90% of americans will jump head first into this fictional scenario. "Yup.
Fuck yeah, but you could just put the chip in your cell phone or tablet, an implant isn't necessary. People have been toying with the idea of RFID checkout on phones and other devices for years. Imagine trying to shoplift something, and have it charge anyway when you leave the store with the product because you kept your cellphone on you. Crafty.
Not triangle, but let's say this has to go in your arm. They say it would only hurt for a few hours. The only thing that's a triangle is a tatoo barcode, but I forgot to mention that for the thread so it's not part of the scenario.
This chip will solve half of the world economy crisis, but at the same time this chip will track you and your spending habits.
" @XII_Sniper: in this scenario, this implanted chip has to be in your body only like in your arm. Can't use a credit card with this chip in it. You have to scan things though your arm instead. Of course you lose all your rights to privacy and the government can shut down your chip if you protest this. Everytime you work, they put in more credit to this chip in your arm. "Why though? It would make no sense, and be needlessly costly to implant every citizen. Plus people with certain health conditions wouldn't necessarily be eligible. Besides, shutting down a chip wouldn't guarantee anyone starving to death. Plus what would the government gain by removing someone's ability to hold and spend money? It wouldn't benefit the economy at all.
Those are the conditions or they throw you into a concentration camp, let's call these ficticious camps, FEMA camps until you implement the chip and connect to their digital currency network.
Is this the part of the weird internet documentary where you explain exactly why people would be moronic to go with this idea since it's just another avenue the illuminati could control you?
Then the next thing you know it's 1984 style government and we get harvested for organs and slave labor for the richest 1 percent?
By the way vote for Ron Paul 2012 END THE FED.
My sarcasm aside no, I'd actually be against unification for a grander government we'd have no real control over.
Americans need to stop getting freaked out about the USD not being the "anchor" currency anymore. Your dollar is in the shitter, deal with it for a while. China is strong as hell right now, christ, Brazil has the strongest currency in the world, and the Canadian dollar is at 1.05 USD. As long as world trade exsists and you have something another country wants you'll be fine. BTW if THE country with the reserve currency is the "only ones who can print money" why am I sitting on a bunch of $5 Canadian bills printed in 2008? There are dozens of reserve currency in the world. Also just a heads up, money is already digital, you think the banks keep hard copy ledgers of everybody's accounts? One bad turn of events and we're all poor. Now i just depressed myself.
" @Doctorchimp: it's just a test I suppose, I believe 90% of americans will like the idea, if they are told it solves most of the economic crisis problems. I won't say anything more about other kinds of stuff. But I do hint maybe of a 1984 type of control grid. No organ harvesting or anything like that. "No I know. It's definitely going that way. Not the next couple years, but soon.
It's also not about America no longer being the number 1 world power, I'd be perfectly content just being a country concerned over our own and getting out of foreign affairs period. Just worry about our people and give them more help and stop the government from pumping ridiculous amounts of cash in a war that isn't needed. Just so the Fed can dictate prices by pumping cash and skew bills passed through the government in favor of huge conglomerates.
(i'm not sure if most of you understand this paragraph, but mega banks has been lending you money non stop and they will approve of everything. They get reimbursted by the government, so they can't lose and you will futher putting us all in debt devaluing the economy)
Well I wouldn't blame it on Obama, for what the system is Obama genuinely tried to put more power to the people. He played the system right or tried to, it's the system that's the problem.
I'd actually put the blame on the Republican party. It's unbelievable how the corporations clearly pull their strings and they dance without fail time and time again.
Let's say both parties, the federal reserve bank, planed this for years, they simply want more control. They are devaluing the dollars though middle east uprisings and also oil prices dollar devaluation, hypothetically. But this is their endgame, their final plan for overall control. I'm only saying, hypothetically, this thread is just a ficticious scenario. I put the blame on privatized federal reserve banks and the american ppl for continuing to vote for democrates and republicans not realising they both work for the same party and has the same agenda.
Maybe I should of made a poll. But still it's a good discussion.
No,because I'm a bit of a conspiracy theorist.
Also, I'm all for a hippie like commune with no currency what so ever, I've got the hair and the beard down, all i need now is some sandals and I'm good to go.
" Fuck yeah, but you could just put the chip in your cell phone or tablet, an implant isn't necessary. People have been toying with the idea of RFID checkout on phones and other devices for years. Imagine trying to shoplift something, and have it charge anyway when you leave the store with the product because you kept your cellphone on you. Crafty.This is a future I'd be A-OK with.Then it'll REALLY be the future.Plus if you wanted to buy drugs or illegal DVDs or something you'd just be obligated to use the barter system. "Hey duuude, I'll trade you these 5 burned Wii games for a gram of weed" "Naw man, prices are inflating, I need at least 6 wii games, and a mos-def mixtape" "Damn bro, you're bleeding me here" "Friend prices, friend prices""
" I mean if you wanted to buy a lady gaga or mortal kombat game, you would need to scan your RFID chip and it will take credit out of it instead of using money. "Where can I find this lady gaga game?
" @HitmanAgent47 said:Poker" I mean if you wanted to buy a lady gaga or mortal kombat game, you would need to scan your RFID chip and it will take credit out of it instead of using money. "Where can I find this lady gaga game? "
" @FunExplosions: well you have to sign up to our prestigious program, they will set an appointment for you in the hospital where they will implant an RFID chip right into your arm. You will be given local anethetic, but once it's online with data universal, you will be registered into the system and given a bit of credit where you can use right away with local businesses and bank machines with the use of your RFID chip, possibly eyescanner. "That's actually not what I meant, but thanks for the well articulated answer, anyway.
We have natural resources.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/42032196/Obama_Says_Prepared_to_Tap_US_Oil_Reserves_If_Needed
" @example1013: how much are these private companies going to charge you for using their oil reserves? Alot more than the middle east, double of the price, they are greedy. The uprising in the middle east might be designed for this very purpose, to open up the oil wells, but that's a whole discussion alltogether.Ever hear of the French Revolution? Do you want to know why that didn't happen in the US? It's because the merchants ran our last revolution. If the next one is run by working-class citizens, I guarantee you'll see shit go down like it did in France. But either way, the larger populace will come out on top.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/42032196/Obama_Says_Prepared_to_Tap_US_Oil_Reserves_If_Needed "
Besides like I mentioned in this thread, anyone who doesn't get with the RFID digital currency program gets thrown into FEMA camps or has their chip turned off until they learn to be obedient.
" @StaticFalconar: let's say this is a way to reduce robbery, crime, fraud, piracy, drugs. But in exchange you lose some of your human rights to privacy. They also will know where you eat, things you buy, where you are, everything. "If you put it simply like that then I would definitely be against it since I'm for drugs, and certain acts of piracy. I have a gun to reduce robbery and crimes that where to happen to me already so I don't see the benefit compared to what I have now.
" @example1013: french revolution was planned by templar knights, after being dissolved and captured by the french king. We call these templelars free masons today, but that's a different discussion alltogether "It doesn't matter who started the French Revolution. It went out of control really quickly, and it took years before things calmed down.
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