Why does the President of USA have to be publicly Christian?

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#201  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@nackbagger said:

" @HitmanAgent47:  What religion if any do you follow? "


That's a great question, however I hope it's not used to discredit me. The way I see it, religion isn't the most important thing, or what secret society these presidents are part of. If you belive and submit to the creator god in heaven that one main god, then that's a good thing. Just not the other so called god satan like how these secret societie freemasons and illuminati are subscribing to as world leaders. 
 
also lol kabbalah didn't create christianity, christ walking the earth and his disciples did. Then again god was around way before that too. Anyone who deals with mysticism is bad news. These are occult rituals, rituals = bad and evil. 
 
To a later post, I disputed that there are any real christians as presidents that didn't convert to other secret societies religions worshipping the devil with their satanic rituals. That's my point you clearly missed. Yes I agree with you that it will get the christian vote, however these world leaders laugh and roll their eyes when they are around other christians. Also I find it funny how you think presidents aren't appointed, rather they win elections.
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#202  Edited By SethPhotopoulos
@trophyhunter said:
" @SethPhotopoulos said:
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" @trophyhunter: It was seen more as the restoration of an old religion.  It was more like their point of view was more like Christians and Jews got what God said wrong.  Only extremists and bigots interpret it as they should hate. "
Yeah, we got it so wrong we have to die for it apparently. "
Cause Most Muslims obviously think that way.  Most Christians obviously hate Jews.  "
And It seems that you love everyone "
Your just a bigot. 
(AGH Muslims are evil!!!) 
Why do you hate them so damn much.
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#203  Edited By trophyhunter
@SethPhotopoulos said:
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" @trophyhunter: The muslim statement is a stereotype and is not true.  "
No, it's not all that far off. "
Prove it please. "
prove that it is not true. "
Thats a lazy out. "
and so is that "
Prove your damn point and I'll state my case. "
I already did
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#204  Edited By nackbagger
@trophyhunter said:
" @SethPhotopoulos said:
" @trophyhunter: It was seen more as the restoration of an old religion.  It was more like their point of view was more like Christians and Jews got what God said wrong.  Only extremists and bigots interpret it as they should hate. "
Yeah, we got it so wrong we have to die for it apparently. "
It happens with religion. Christians did it to Muslims and Jews during the Crusades.
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#205  Edited By SethPhotopoulos
@trophyhunter said:
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" @trophyhunter: The muslim statement is a stereotype and is not true.  "
No, it's not all that far off. "
Prove it please. "
prove that it is not true. "
Thats a lazy out. "
and so is that "
Prove your damn point and I'll state my case. "
I already did "
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#206  Edited By bacongames

Going from first to last pages are always amusing.  First page we see a pretty coherent but not perfect discussion about the topic at hand.  By page 10, it's a mad house of horrible shit-spewing.  Both antagonistic arguing and conspiracy theories being just left out to fester.  I like my own intelligence too much to read the rest and see how this gore beast from the depths of nether hell evolved.
 
Anyway back on topic, the reason most Presidents have to Christian is that in a primarily Christian nation it's the least path of resistance.  Given the age requirement and public background of most if not all presidents means they're likely Christian anyway.  However to become president one must obviously play themselves up tremendously to get votes.  It's America's most important popularity contest and the Christian vote is HUGE.  It's more of generation gap thing and it's going to take at least two for a man of legal age to run who also happens to be atheist let alone get elected.

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#207  Edited By trophyhunter
@SethPhotopoulos said:
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" @trophyhunter: It was seen more as the restoration of an old religion.  It was more like their point of view was more like Christians and Jews got what God said wrong.  Only extremists and bigots interpret it as they should hate. "
Yeah, we got it so wrong we have to die for it apparently. "
Cause Most Muslims obviously think that way.  Most Christians obviously hate Jews.  "
And It seems that you love everyone "
Your just a bigot. (AGH Muslims are evil!!!) Why do you hate them so damn much. "
Well yeah, to dumbasses like you I am. I bet you don't think illegal aliens are illegal too. 
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#208  Edited By trophyhunter
@nackbagger said:
" @trophyhunter said:
" @SethPhotopoulos said:
" @trophyhunter: It was seen more as the restoration of an old religion.  It was more like their point of view was more like Christians and Jews got what God said wrong.  Only extremists and bigots interpret it as they should hate. "
Yeah, we got it so wrong we have to die for it apparently. "
It happens with religion. Christians did it to Muslims and Jews during the Crusades. "
Well I guess we are even then.
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#209  Edited By nackbagger
@HitmanAgent47: Last time I checked there is plenty of mysticism in both testaments of the bible. What do you have to say to that?
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#210  Edited By SethPhotopoulos
@trophyhunter said:
" @SethPhotopoulos said:
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" @trophyhunter: It was seen more as the restoration of an old religion.  It was more like their point of view was more like Christians and Jews got what God said wrong.  Only extremists and bigots interpret it as they should hate. "
Yeah, we got it so wrong we have to die for it apparently. "
Cause Most Muslims obviously think that way.  Most Christians obviously hate Jews.  "
And It seems that you love everyone "
Your just a bigot. (AGH Muslims are evil!!!) Why do you hate them so damn much. "
Well yeah, to dumbasses like you I am. I bet you don't think illegal aliens are illegal too.  "
No.  I'm saying most muslims aren't like the ones your describing. 
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#211  Edited By trophyhunter
@SethPhotopoulos said:
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" @trophyhunter: It was seen more as the restoration of an old religion.  It was more like their point of view was more like Christians and Jews got what God said wrong.  Only extremists and bigots interpret it as they should hate. "
Yeah, we got it so wrong we have to die for it apparently. "
Cause Most Muslims obviously think that way.  Most Christians obviously hate Jews.  "
And It seems that you love everyone "
Your just a bigot. (AGH Muslims are evil!!!) Why do you hate them so damn much. "
Well yeah, to dumbasses like you I am. I bet you don't think illegal aliens are illegal too.  "
No.  I'm saying most muslims aren't like the ones your describing.  "
and?
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#212  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@nackbagger: Show me the verses that these ppl does satanic rituals in the bible. I say that's false and your misreading it, I mean doing stuff like sarcrifice or mock sacrifice which is done alot with world leaders and former presidents for rituals. Also I don't know of any christians that does rituals, that's occult (you know stuff like voodoo, witchcraft or other types of rituals which are not good) I need to study kaballah more and research it, however I don't think it's good as christianity since it's just a book, not a religion and keeps you away from god. I'm researching how it relates to freemasonary, however I don't trust that belif system. Jesus was not a kaballist. I know madonna is part of kaballah, however she keeps wearing clothes with illuminati symbols, I take that as being evil. Those ppl deals in black magic.
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#213  Edited By SethPhotopoulos
@trophyhunter said:
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" @trophyhunter: It was seen more as the restoration of an old religion.  It was more like their point of view was more like Christians and Jews got what God said wrong.  Only extremists and bigots interpret it as they should hate. "
Yeah, we got it so wrong we have to die for it apparently. "
Cause Most Muslims obviously think that way.  Most Christians obviously hate Jews.  "
And It seems that you love everyone "
Your just a bigot. (AGH Muslims are evil!!!) Why do you hate them so damn much. "
Well yeah, to dumbasses like you I am. I bet you don't think illegal aliens are illegal too.  "
No.  I'm saying most muslims aren't like the ones your describing.  "
and? "
Your looking at a small group within the religion then saying that is obviously what the religion is about.
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#214  Edited By MrCandleguy
@trophyhunter: honestly dude, i think NO ONE here knows wtf ur on about.
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#215  Edited By trophyhunter
@AmonHouston said:
" @trophyhunter: honestly dude, i think NO ONE here knows wtf ur on about. "
I'm fucking with that extreme liberal guy, because he's nuts.
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#216  Edited By MrCandleguy
@trophyhunter said:
" @AmonHouston said:
" @trophyhunter: honestly dude, i think NO ONE here knows wtf ur on about. "
I'm fucking with that extreme liberal guy, because he's nuts. "
Sorry man, but i think im on the guy that is nuts side.
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#217  Edited By nackbagger
@HitmanAgent47 said:
" @nackbagger: Show me the verses that these ppl does satanic rituals in the bible. I say that's false and your misreading it, I mean doing stuff like sarcrifice or mock sacrifice which is done alot with world leaders and former presidents for rituals. Also I don't know of any christians that does rituals, that's occult (you know stuff like voodoo, witchcraft or other types of rituals which are not good) I need to study kaballah more and research it, however I don't think it's good as christianity. I know madonna is part of kaballah, however she keeps wearing clothes with illuminati symbols, I take that as being evil. Those ppl deals in black magic. "
May I say your grammar is excellent my good sir.  Lets see Abraham was commanded by GOD to sacrifice his own son...
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#218  Edited By trophyhunter

 @SethPhotopoulos said:

" @trophyhunter said:

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" @trophyhunter: It was seen more as the restoration of an old religion.  It was more like their point of view was more like Christians and Jews got what God said wrong.  Only extremists and bigots interpret it as they should hate. "
Yeah, we got it so wrong we have to die for it apparently. "
Cause Most Muslims obviously think that way.  Most Christians obviously hate Jews.  "
And It seems that you love everyone "
Your just a bigot. (AGH Muslims are evil!!!) Why do you hate them so damn much. "
Well yeah, to dumbasses like you I am. I bet you don't think illegal aliens are illegal too.  "
No.  I'm saying most muslims aren't like the ones your describing.  "
and? "
Your looking at a small group within the religion then saying that is obviously what the religion is about. "
 Everybody's got a price,
Everybody's gonna pay
Cuz the Million dollar Man,
Always gets his way
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha
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#219  Edited By Mighty

I thought Obama was Muslim! 
 
(JK, I was ripping on FOX news)
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#220  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@nackbagger: He never did, god said to him don't, god just wanted to see his faith. No one was sacrificed, therefore it's not a ritual or occult. That's what the bible said anyways since in the bible, god constantly test your faith. He might of just sacrificed a goat walking around instead, that's what it said on wiki. To answer your question.
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#222  Edited By trophyhunter
@AmonHouston said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" @AmonHouston said:
" @trophyhunter: honestly dude, i think NO ONE here knows wtf ur on about. "
I'm fucking with that extreme liberal guy, because he's nuts. "
Sorry man, but i think im on the guy that is nuts side. "
 if your not down with dat we got two words for you 
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#223  Edited By SethPhotopoulos
@trophyhunter said:
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" @trophyhunter: It was seen more as the restoration of an old religion.  It was more like their point of view was more like Christians and Jews got what God said wrong.  Only extremists and bigots interpret it as they should hate. "
Yeah, we got it so wrong we have to die for it apparently. "
Cause Most Muslims obviously think that way.  Most Christians obviously hate Jews.  "
And It seems that you love everyone "
Your just a bigot. (AGH Muslims are evil!!!) Why do you hate them so damn much. "
Well yeah, to dumbasses like you I am. I bet you don't think illegal aliens are illegal too.  "
No.  I'm saying most muslims aren't like the ones your describing.  "
and? "
Your looking at a small group within the religion then saying that is obviously what the religion is about. "
 Everybody's got a price, Everybody's gonna pay Cuz the Million dollar Man, Always gets his way Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha "
NO. 
My weakness.
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#224  Edited By trophyhunter
@SethPhotopoulos said:
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" @trophyhunter: It was seen more as the restoration of an old religion.  It was more like their point of view was more like Christians and Jews got what God said wrong.  Only extremists and bigots interpret it as they should hate. "
Yeah, we got it so wrong we have to die for it apparently. "
Cause Most Muslims obviously think that way.  Most Christians obviously hate Jews.  "
And It seems that you love everyone "
Your just a bigot. (AGH Muslims are evil!!!) Why do you hate them so damn much. "
Well yeah, to dumbasses like you I am. I bet you don't think illegal aliens are illegal too.  "
No.  I'm saying most muslims aren't like the ones your describing.  "
and? "
Your looking at a small group within the religion then saying that is obviously what the religion is about. "
 Everybody's got a price, Everybody's gonna pay Cuz the Million dollar Man, Always gets his way Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha "
NO. My weakness. "

Oh you liked that?
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#225  Edited By nackbagger
@HitmanAgent47: Point taken. I remembered that right after I posted. Also, Kaballah is part of Judaism not just a book. 
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#226  Edited By GregariousGreg
@trophyhunter: Don't you have some Klan rally you have to attend or something
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#227  Edited By SethPhotopoulos
@trophyhunter: Not if its killing me.
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#228  Edited By nackbagger
@trophyhunter said:
" @AmonHouston said:
" @trophyhunter: honestly dude, i think NO ONE here knows wtf ur on about. "
I'm fucking with that extreme liberal guy, because he's nuts. "
You have no proof that he is an "extreme liberal". He is just not as biased as you. Glenn Beck is probably;y your favorite news anchor, right?
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#229  Edited By trophyhunter
@FizzleNizzleBear said:
" @trophyhunter: Don't you have some Klan rally you have to attend or something "
Nah white not my color, plus the burring stuff. it's hot enough outside already.
Also those guys are creepy as hell and all that jazz.
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#230  Edited By trophyhunter
@SethPhotopoulos said:

" @trophyhunter: Not if its killing me. "

The million dollar man Ted Dibiase is a Muslim? Holy shit, him and the iron sheik should have been a tag team.
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#231  Edited By SethPhotopoulos
@trophyhunter said:
" @SethPhotopoulos said:

" @trophyhunter: Not if its killing me. "

The million dollar man Ted Dibiase is a Muslim? Holy shit, him and the iron sheik should have been a tag team. "
That made me laugh.
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#232  Edited By trophyhunter
@SethPhotopoulos said:
" @trophyhunter said:
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" @trophyhunter: Not if its killing me. "

The million dollar man Ted Dibiase is a Muslim? Holy shit, him and the iron sheik should have been a tag team. "
That made me laugh. "
See it's not all bad.
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#233  Edited By SethPhotopoulos
@HitmanAgent47 said:
" @nackbagger: Show me the verses that these ppl does satanic rituals in the bible. I say that's false and your misreading it, I mean doing stuff like sarcrifice or mock sacrifice which is done alot with world leaders and former presidents for rituals. Also I don't know of any christians that does rituals, that's occult (you know stuff like voodoo, witchcraft or other types of rituals which are not good) I need to study kaballah more and research it, however I don't think it's good as christianity since it's just a book, not a religion and keeps you away from god. I'm researching how it relates to freemasonary, however I don't trust that belif system. Jesus was not a kaballist. I know madonna is part of kaballah, however she keeps wearing clothes with illuminati symbols, I take that as being evil. Those ppl deals in black magic. "
Most Christian holidays were based off of pagan rituals. 
 
Easter was formed from the pagan spring equinox. 
Christmas came from winter solstice and a feast happened on DEC 25 for the goddess of nature.  
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#234  Edited By HitmanAgent47
@SethPhotopoulos: perfect way to discredit christ I suppose since he was born on that day and easter he rised from the dead. Yet we have some guy in a red suit called santan claus is suppose to be part of christ birthday and some easter bunnies are part of jesus's resurrection as a distraction. However I want to talk about presidents, or maybe I should go play a pc game instead. Talk among yourselves, if I find a reply interesting I will reply. Honestly it was nice talking about all of this stuff so far and I still belive there are not many christian presidents, they either converted to other secret societies because they are not christians anymore and they belive in the devil. I stand by those points I made earlier, if we pretend to be a christian nation before being a president, evidence shows it's completely false from what I understand.
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#235  Edited By nackbagger
@HitmanAgent47: Thank you for the laughs you have given me dude
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#236  Edited By GregariousGreg
@HitmanAgent47: 
1) Santa (no n) is derived from Saint NIcholas
2) Christ probably wasn't born on December 25, due to biblical description it implies that he was born during the summer
 
What is your opinion on the backwards cross
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#237  Edited By MrCandleguy
@trophyhunter said:
" @AmonHouston said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" @AmonHouston said:
" @trophyhunter: honestly dude, i think NO ONE here knows wtf ur on about. "
I'm fucking with that extreme liberal guy, because he's nuts. "
Sorry man, but i think im on the guy that is nuts side. "
 if your not down with dat we got two words for you  "
Are those words: Your awesome?
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#238  Edited By BraveToaster
@Junkerman said:
" @Axxol:  He's obviously joking, no one would be dumb enough to believe that. "
I don't understand why he hasn't replied to my comment. It's been like 3 hours.
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#239  Edited By CRAzYKiLL3R93
@ManMadeGod said:

" @CRAzYKiLL3R93 said:

" Because its America, they seem to still be in the "religion matters times". They pride themselves on having religious freedom ect, but religious freedom in America basically means as long as you're Christian you're pretty much good. If you're some other religion then the whole "religious freedom" part of the constitution doesnt count anymore and you're not allowed to build a cultural centre in New York. It puzzles me that the people who are calling for that thing to go are usually the ones who criticise the President for not up-holding the constitution. There's only one openly atheist member of congress. Contrast that with Britain, where Her Majesty the Queen is the head of our state religion the Church of England and Bishops have seats given to them in our upper house of Parliament and somehow we manage to be more secular. Most of former Prime Minister Gordon Brown's cabinet were atheist or agnostic and a persons religious beliefs aren't even part of the campaign. If you went around wearing religion on your sleeve you would do WORSE then if you just stayed quiet.  "
I have no idea what you are talking about. "religion matters times"? What the fuck is that? The vast majority of the world is religious and there is nothing wrong with that. And there is religious freedom in America. There is no law against the cultural center in NY. People find it in bad taste and don't want it built. That's completely different from taking away their rights because they are Muslim. It's no surprise that you are from England: your image of America is warped, distorted, and completely wrong.  "
Yeah, most of the world as in un-industrilized countries like Sudan and Iran. Im talking about other industrialized nations and free countries like Sweden, France, Germany and the UK which are all becoming increasingly non-religious. And there have been protests about mosques being built all over the country, I'm pretty sure mosques in California are far enough from ground zero. I'm not saying its a law, but people should respect their cherished old piece of paper and not protest it being built.
 
And I although I was born in the UK and live here now, I did live in the US for 9 years and do have US citizenship. I only left the country 2 years ago, so I do know what I'm talking about. 
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#240  Edited By captain_clayman

that's how he got the midwestern vote. 
had he not been publicly christian they woulda thought he's a dirty a-rab turrrorist 
 
EDIT: well, more of one, that is.

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#241  Edited By Grimjim8000

this thread is amazing....please continue to amuse me puppets! muahahaha

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#242  Edited By MrCandleguy

Damn there thread has gone all over the place haha. Its great!

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#243  Edited By mosdl
@FizzleNizzleBear said:
" @HitmanAgent47:  1) Santa (no n) is derived from Saint NIcholas 2) Christ probably wasn't born on December 25, due to biblical description it implies that he was born during the summer  What is your opinion on the backwards cross "
Regarding 2 I've read that it couldn't have been December as it would have been to cold to fit the biblical description :)
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#244  Edited By ape_dosmil
@ManMadeGod said:

I have no idea what you are talking about. "religion matters times"? What the fuck is that? The vast majority of the world is religious and there is nothing wrong with that. And there is religious freedom in America. There is no law against the cultural center in NY. People find it in bad taste and don't want it built. That's completely different from taking away their rights because they are Muslim. It's no surprise that you are from England: your image of America is warped, distorted, and completely wrong.  "

But why do people find the building of the cultural centre in bad taste? It seems to me it's like opposing the building of a catholic church in Omagh because a fringe group of catholic nationalist terrorists (the Real IRA) bombed the town. They didn't represent mainstream catholics in Omagh. From the outside looking in, it is a worry that supposedly mainstream politicians and certain media outlets in America seem to equate all muslims with islamic extremists.
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#245  Edited By Bruce
@AmonHouston:  
 
It's called getting votes of those who live in the South, sir.
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#246  Edited By NoDeath

I'd just like to say that HitmanAgent47 is my new favorite person ever.

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#247  Edited By FlyingRat

 @HitmanAgent47:  I always knew you were an asshole, but i have to say, i did not expect the batshit insanity. It explains a lot though.

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#248  Edited By Lukeweizer

Gotta appeal to the majority audience. And Christians are kind of the whiniest. If he didn't say he was Christian, they'd all flip out.

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#249  Edited By korwin
@HitmanAgent47: 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh2Nu2aTPP0
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#250  Edited By jeffgoldblum

It sucks, but it doesn't look like it's going away any time soon.