" You guys bashing the OP for his opinion is embarrassing. I see the 'upgraded' graphics and it doesn't look all that great. Surely they could've pumped more out with a brand new engine? I mean, aren't they like the biggest IP in the world?  Like others have said, I'm starting to get extremely bored with the Halo franchise, and adding these small little things aren't really wetting my appetite. The game still plays like an advanced version of Halo 2. I used to play COD2 all the time, and absolutely loved it. Since then, COD4 has changed the game, then MW2 has changed it even more. Sure the actual shooting is the same, but you can really tell there are big changes from all 3 games.   Halo: Reach is going to be great due to the campaign/co-op. I just hope they do something to freshen up the game online. "

It will be interesting to see whether or not Bungie supports Reach in the long term now that they are under contract with Activision.

I was just round my friends and they were playing the Beta. It looked exceptionally Halo to me... and they were like "Yeah well it IS Halo innit"... 
 
I don't think they understand or realized what I meant...

I like the beta, ive had a lot more fun with it than I did with Halo 3, the controls seem sharper although that's probably just me, the graphics are better,  there are more weapons that I enjoy using i.e. the pistol, DMR, Needler Rifle and Grenade Launcher, the inclusion of different abilities for Spartans/Elites is cool (nothing like dodging a grenade as an Elite) but having said that there are a few problems like AL being too overpowered as well as grenades (i wont go into it because that argument is going nowhare). 
 
Even though the game has made improvements over Halo 3 I still feel they should have went in a completely different route to Halo 3 and previous Halo's. This is afterall the last game in the series and after all the rumors about it being in 3rd/first person, cover/squad mechanics etc it is a little disappointing it ended up feeling very similar to past Halo's.

" You guys bashing the OP for his opinion is embarrassing. I see the 'upgraded' graphics and it doesn't look all that great. Surely they could've pumped more out with a brand new engine? I mean, aren't they like the biggest IP in the world?  Like others have said, I'm starting to get extremely bored with the Halo franchise, and adding these small little things aren't really wetting my appetite. The game still plays like an advanced version of Halo 2. I used to play COD2 all the time, and absolutely loved it. Since then, COD4 has changed the game, then MW2 has changed it even more. Sure the actual shooting is the same, but you can really tell there are big changes from all 3 games.   Halo: Reach is going to be great due to the campaign/co-op. I just hope they do something to freshen up the game online. "

" It's just more Halo. if you really thought that it would be different, you are sorely mistaken.   And I hate grenade spam... "

" This thread = meh "

The gameplay is the same?! You don´t play a lot of shooters do you? Yes, the basic movement and controls are similar, but this game feels like a huge step in another direction for Halo. Play a Team Swat game in Halo 3 and then in the Reach Beta and you´ll see. The way those guns handle, the way everything seems to be geared towards accuracy and faster kills. It is a really striking difference. Not to mention the armor abilities and increased focus on grenades/infantry combat.

" @AnimalFather:   Yeah.  I'm buying Reach solely for the campaign/ co-op.  I could care less about the multiplayer. "

" the graphics arent better, the gameplay is the same. the level design is the same bore. you can fly now and turn into a kneeling statue hoptidooo. They could have done this with a patch for halo 3.    halo = rip. "