Sure, I'd buy KH3 if it ever came out, but other than that...it's not really doing much for me anymore. What happened to me?
Note: In reply to Ryan's question during the Bombcast, yes there are a bunch of memorable tracks from the KH OSTs.
@Cloudenvy said:
Well, what happened is that they got so caught up in their own incredibly stupid fiction!
Yeah. I'd still totally buy KH3 if it came out.
They need to just reboot the whole damn thing at this point. The plot and universe is a clusterfuck of the highest order. It is a shame, Kingdom Hearts was one of my favorite experiences the last console generation.
Kingdom Hearts 1, BBS, and 2 is what KH's is to me. On that note I'm still totally interested in KH3.
I'll never forget the masterpiece that is Kingdom Hearts 1. That game on expert with slow leveling is one of the most difficult and rewarding experiences I've had playing games.
@Cloudenvy said:
Well, what happened is that they got so caught up in their own incredibly stupid fiction!
Dude, yes. An action RPG where you go around and meet all your favorite Disney characters? Stop right there, that is AWESOME. Why'd they have to push it?
@SpunkyHePanda said:
@Cloudenvy said:
Well, what happened is that they got so caught up in their own incredibly stupid fiction!
Dude, yes. An action RPG where you go around and meet all your favorite Disney characters? Stop right there, that is AWESOME. Why'd they have to push it?
My sentiments exactly.
@xaLieNxGrEyx said:
Kingdom Hearts 1, BBS, and 2 is what KH's is to me. On that note I'm still totally interested in KH3.
I'll never forget the masterpiece that is Kingdom Hearts 1. That game on expert with slow leveling is one of the most difficult and rewarding experiences I've had playing games.
KH 1 was awesome. It was the first game I ever beat and holds a special place in my heart (no pun intended).
KH1 is really good. It hints at a further fiction, but that's all it really does and that's all it really needs to do in order to set up a big bad guy for you to go defeat at the end of it all.
KH2 makes the gameplay a lot better but falters in the story department a bit. It's still fun but it starts trying to explore a deeper fiction that rivals Resident Evil in how convoluted it has become.
Birth By Sleep has the best combat, so it gets a pass.
...and that's why you don't care about Kingdom Hearts anymore. All of the other games are boring or just too downright confusing to care about.
I remember Kingdom Hearts was one of those games my brother borrowed from a friend and I happened to try it out and love it. I wasn't huge on anything RPG at the time, I didn't really even know what the game was about, and I thought the game looked a little bit too much kid-ish and Japanese for my tastes, but I fell in love with the majority of it, and then two came out, I pretty much beat that whole game in two sittings, and I really enjoyed that one too.
Ever since then though, it was just kind of meh, and I feel like the time has passed. I too will want to play Kingdom Hearts 3, but they just kind of got out of control in my opinion with the games I don't care to play. Now, if it goes into the third one, I don't know if I'll even be able to understand all that's going on since I haven't been keeping up with them. Although realistically, it wasn't that long ago that we all played those games, I feel like that was part of my child-hood in a sense, and my interests lie elsewhere.
The story is so disjointed and confusing and the cannon is spread over so many different platforms it's hard to keep track. Even if I still wanted to I don't think I would know what was going on if they made a KH3.
I'm pretty much the same. I freaking loved the first two games, and maybe that was because I was a certain age when I played them, but I haven't touched any of the games in the series since.
Ya, I don't blame you. The fiction got kind of ridiculous. They didn't need to go all crazy with it.
I just played it for the nostalgia, they really didn't need to push it past that for me.
I never played the DS games, just the PS2 ones, but KH2 was already kind of going there.
I'd still check out another one, but it doesn't hype me as much as it did when it was a new franchise now.
Considering the crazy amount of mythology they have to reconcile for people who have only played KH 1+2, I can't imagine what KH3 will look like.
That said, there was a time of my life I'd buy a PS3 just for KH3. Long gone now.
I really enjoyed both 1 and 2 but haven't touched any of the handheld versions. At this point I don't even know if I would be excited if they finally announced 3.
The story is hot trash and needlessly convoluted.
@NapTimeSleeper said:
I really enjoyed both 1 and 2 but haven't touched any of the handheld versions. At this point I don't even know if I would be excited if they finally announced 3.
Samesies.
As a series, I do not like KH. I see the appeal of it, but I have not played or cared for any of those games since KH2. The story never interested me and the gameplay isn't the best. I would not buy KH3.
That being said, I am not sure this matters by the end of the day. Maybe Square is pulling a pokemon and just targeting a younger crowd with the whole disney angle and I outgrew it. Maybe its just another version of the "final fantasy" effect where people will buy it on brand alone. Regardkess, as long as the target audience gets what they want out of that series, that's all that matters.
I actually just replayed the first two recently, really like parts of the story but overall the fiction is so overwhelming and stupid after a point that it's almost impossible to have a grip on the complete story/mythology. The 2nd game dealt with a lot of stuff that made no sense, I thought originally that it was because I didn't play the GBA game but it goes far deeper than that. All I hear during the cutscenes is light, dark, hearts, nobodies, darkness, heartless, dark, light, etc. It didn't make sense when I was 14 and it doesn't make sense now that I'm 20. Whatever.
I'd still totally play a 3rd game though. I feel like I have enough of a grasp on the story that I'd know what's going on, and that's enough for me. I still feel moderately attached to the characters since it was the first RPG I ever played, and want to see what happens, but the way they branched the story out in 2 was a turn off. I'm looking forward to the 3rd game and I'll probably borrow my brother's 3DS to play this new one too.
@Dagbiker:
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The first game is probably my favorite PS2 game after FFX. Disney was a large part of my childhood and I really enjoyed the concept of visiting different worlds/the overlying theme of friendship. I understand very little of what happened beyond the first game, though. I finished II and attempted Chain of Memories...haven't bothered since those. A well made numeric installment with actual new worlds/characters would probably interest me enough to return though. As long as it was the end of the series.
I personally play Kingdom Hearts for the same reason I play something like Diablo; You hit a bunch of stuff as you watch their lifebars go down, and then they explode into rewards like some kind of living pinata.
As someone who has kept up with the series (and played all but 1 of the games) I'm still looking forward to playing Triple D later this month. Now the thing about Kingdom Hearts is that it has pretty basic gameplay, so once I'm done playing through a game I'm also pretty done with its mechanics. Yet the time it takes for the next game to be released is enough for me to be up for more. Yeah, the story is convoluted as shit, but having followed it for so many years I can't help feeling a bit invested.
Not since the Metal Gear series have I followed a videogame narrative that spanned across so many games and years, and there's a certain appeal to doing just that.
I liked KH 1 and 2, would probably buy a 3 if they released it. I do not care at all about their side story stuff though.
I didn't like the combat in the first one so I never finished it. The idea seemed cool, but the combat was too simplistic. So maybe you're gravitating towards more complex gameplay?
I only see 4 as in the Kingdom Hearts Series the rest are spin offs and/or not necessary/worthless. The 4 are: Kingdom Hearts, Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories, Kingdom Hearts 2, and Birth By Sleep.
I would buy 3d Drop Distance if it were on PS3 or PSP cause it may be worth it. I will buy Kingdom Hearts 3 when it comes out.
They pretty much fucked themselves in the ass at this point. The chances of anyone having actually played all of the six handheld games as well as the PS2 games are so slim that any story they could put in a third game would be complete nonsense to basically everyone.
I really loved the first two games, but by the time even the second game came along they were already way too far up their own asses with the story. Now, it's pretty much too late for any story in this universe to make sense, and I'm not confident Square would actually be able to pull off a reboot game as good as the first. It's funny how there are a lot of game companies that are trying to stay afloat in this economy, while Square seems to be actively trying to kill itself and all of its IP.
@Cloudenvy said:
Well, what happened is that they got so caught up in their own incredibly stupid fiction!
Pretty much.
@Phatmac said:
You grew up. Now go play a good rpg.
Yeah going to have to quote this one. Kingdom Hearts was never a "great game" it was just a really weird cross over that had some heart and a little ambition at first. The various spinoff's since have long since flushed said heart and ambition down the toilet.
I feel like i'm the only one who likes the ridiculous Kingdom Hearts story. Whats so hard to follow? I wouldn't mind playing Birth By Sleep but I don't own a psp.
@Karkarov: I don't know, I'd say the gameplay is a pretty fun action RPG. Maybe they could do things to make it a little deeper. Also maybe make the environments a little more lively.
I think those people that have played all the games up to this point are the ones who can understand this complex storyline. Somehow I did end up having all the systems for the games, but I still need to use a wiki to undertand some plot holes.
But I agree that a lot of people would lose interest in the franchise if they don't keep up with it.
KH is always a franchise that baffled me at how successful it was. But I guess a lot of people like FFVII and Disney movies of which I am not one.
Haven't played one since Kingdom Hearts II where the true allure of the franchise was made clear to me (reliving disney films), and where Square-enix started to go the opposite direction with the nonsensical original plot elements.
Though I've been on a JRPG buying binge recently, and seeing that I can get most of the handheld games for about fifteen to twenty dollars is really tempting.
@SpunkyHePanda said:
@Cloudenvy said:
Well, what happened is that they got so caught up in their own incredibly stupid fiction!
Dude, yes. An action RPG where you go around and meet all your favorite Disney characters? Stop right there, that is AWESOME. Why'd they have to push it?
I totally agree, but I think they had to push it because it became more and more difficult to secure more rights to other Disney properties. In KH 2 you end up visiting many of the same worlds, and BBS is the same way. As the series went on, we stopped seeing more Disney or FF characters and started seeing more and more KH characters, but that's not so bad right? I mean who doesn't love Roxas....anyone?
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