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    Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

    Game » consists of 21 releases. Released Jun 12, 2008

    In 2014, war has become so routine that it is at the core of the global economy. A rapidly aging Solid Snake picks up his gun and embarks upon his final mission in this epic tale of tactical espionage action -- the conclusion to the Solid Snake saga.

    David Hayter on snakes 'suicide scene'

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    #1  Edited By OmegaPirate

    This was covered on 1up a while ago apparently but i have only just stumbled across it - a fan asking David if there were any disagreements on what he had to say/do in the metal gear maes, and after Davids quite detailed

    (and i quite agree with)
    Comeback, the guys is obviously quite eager to sit the fuck back down

      

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    #2  Edited By Exlutonian

    Couldn't agree more.

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    #3  Edited By BiggerBomb

    Jesus, I thought you said David Hayter committed suicide in the title.

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    #4  Edited By OmegaPirate
    BiggerBomb said:
    "Jesus, I thought you said David Hayter committed suicide in the title."
    Lol ; i would be incredibly sad if that actually occured - David is incredibly talented
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    #5  Edited By Shawn

    Not that I care much, but isn't that a spoiler in the title itself?

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    #6  Edited By OmegaPirate
    Shawn said:
    "Not that I care much, but isn't that a spoiler in the title itself?"
    Nah - like 3 years ago there were vids of snake putting a gun in his mouth and shaking 
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    #7  Edited By Systech
    OmegaPirate said:
    "Shawn said:
    "Not that I care much, but isn't that a spoiler in the title itself?"
    Nah - like 3 years ago there were vids of snake putting a gun in his mouth and shaking "
    I'm pretty sure that this is about Metal Gear Solid 4, though.
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    #8  Edited By OmegaPirate
    systech said:
    "OmegaPirate said:
    "Shawn said:
    "Not that I care much, but isn't that a spoiler in the title itself?"
    Nah - like 3 years ago there were vids of snake putting a gun in his mouth and shaking "
    I'm pretty sure that this is about Metal Gear Solid 4, though."
    Sorry :) allow me to elaborate
    About 3 years ago there were preview videos of MGS4 and they showed old snake sat on a barrell putting a gun in his mouth and hesitating
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    #9  Edited By Systech
    OmegaPirate said:
    "systech said:
    "OmegaPirate said:
    "Shawn said:
    "Not that I care much, but isn't that a spoiler in the title itself?"
    Nah - like 3 years ago there were vids of snake putting a gun in his mouth and shaking "
    I'm pretty sure that this is about Metal Gear Solid 4, though."
    Sorry :) allow me to elaborate
    About 3 years ago there were preview videos of MGS4 and they showed old snake sat on a barrell putting a gun in his mouth and hesitating
    "
    Oh, I still don't get it, but... Okay, whatever.
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    #10  Edited By clubsandwich

    thanks for the fucking spoilers with the topic name, asshole...

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    #11  Edited By OmegaPirate
    clubsandwich said:
    "thanks for the fucking spoilers with the topic name, asshole..."
    I would hardly call it a spoiler if its been shown in at least 6 different types of video over the past few years - half of which didnt even appear in the game and were promo - And to be honest it was talked about in a public press conference -and - im not going to go on , people will complain for the sake of complaining nowadays i swear.... 
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    #12  Edited By Pibo47
    clubsandwich said:
    "thanks for the fucking spoilers with the topic name, asshole..."
    Guys, this shit is years old. Dick.
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    #13  Edited By Exlutonian

    I concur. Not a spoiler.

    I was looking for the trailer to back this up but its been drowned out by all the more recent ones.

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    #14  Edited By OmegaPirate

    Come on guys lets not be mean ^_^ it was just showing an insight onto the input voice and character actors have over the game as a final product and the emotional attatchment that they go through - and then to discuss it -no need to cuss each other out <3 we all friends here 

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    #15  Edited By brukaoru

    This is old and not a spoiler. The scene depicted in that trailer does not appear in the game.

    Anyway, I agree with David that Snake shouldn't hesitate to kill himself. Just based on Solid Snake's personality in the first few games, he has that sort of attitude that when if he was faced with death, he wouldn't really care. So seeing that hesitation in the trailer seemed a little odd to me too.

    Found the trailer, near the ending (10 minutes in) is the faux-suicide scene:

      

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    #16  Edited By Balls

    Woah, isn't the topic title a spoiler?

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    #17  Edited By Milkman
    YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T READ THIS POST IF YOU DIDN'T BEAT METAL GEAR SOLID 4

    I agree with him completely. Not only do I think he's right, on that but I think Snake should have actually went through with the god damn suicide. It should have been *gun in mouth* *BANG* *credits*. Not *gun in mouth* *BANG* *fake credits* *Big Boss bullshit* The cut scene at the end with Big Boss and Snake was the only cut scene in the game where I was like "Come on...is this over yet?" I thought the whole scene was fan service and just completely ridiculous. The series should have ended with Snake committing suicide. Like Hayter said, Snake should know when it is time.
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    #18  Edited By BiggerBomb

    "Some stories can't be told by words"- LOL

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    #19  Edited By WilliamRLBaker

    Agreed Kojima is really losing his abbilty to tell the snake story he needs to stop.

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    #20  Edited By agent_lost
    systech said:
    "OmegaPirate said:
    "systech said:
    "OmegaPirate said:
    "Shawn said:
    "Not that I care much, but isn't that a spoiler in the title itself?"
    Nah - like 3 years ago there were vids of snake putting a gun in his mouth and shaking "
    I'm pretty sure that this is about Metal Gear Solid 4, though."
    Sorry :) allow me to elaborate
    About 3 years ago there were preview videos of MGS4 and they showed old snake sat on a barrell putting a gun in his mouth and hesitating
    "
    Oh, I still don't get it, but... Okay, whatever."
    oh yea, I remember that trailer, is was back went Sony was pimping out the PS3, then they show the MGS4 trailer people only care about 2 thing, the fact that snake is old and that his had a gun in his mouth. Everyone was going nut then they remember that the graphic was amazing.
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    #21  Edited By Cube
    WilliamRLBaker said:
    "Agreed Kojima is really losing his abbilty to tell the snake story he needs to stop."
    ...

    It's pretty much over...


    At least Kojima can create an immersive story, that stuff is clearly on its way out.
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    #22  Edited By Lemegeton
    Milkman said:
    "YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T READ THIS POST IF YOU DIDN'T BEAT METAL GEAR SOLID 4

    I agree with him completely. Not only do I think he's right, on that but I think Snake should have actually went through with the god damn suicide. It should have been *gun in mouth* *BANG* *credits*. Not *gun in mouth* *BANG* *fake credits* *Big Boss bullshit* The cut scene at the end with Big Boss and Snake was the only cut scene in the game where I was like "Come on...is this over yet?" I thought the whole scene was fan service and just completely ridiculous. The series should have ended with Snake committing suicide. Like Hayter said, Snake should know when it is time."
    agreed. the scene where sunny asks otacon where snake is and he says he is resting, he deserves his rest and the screen went black i thought that was the end and it would have been a very poignant and perfect note to end on. the rest of the stuff that followed was ok but when it did eventually end it didnt have the same impact
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    #23  Edited By WilliamRLBaker
    Cube said:
    "WilliamRLBaker said:
    "Agreed Kojima is really losing his abbilty to tell the snake story he needs to stop."
    ...

    It's pretty much over...


    At least Kojima can create an immersive story, that stuff is clearly on its way out."
    didn't he say that the last 2 times? that it would be the last game?
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    #24  Edited By get2sammyb
    Cube said:
    "WilliamRLBaker said:
    "Agreed Kojima is really losing his abbilty to tell the snake story he needs to stop."
    ...

    It's pretty much over...


    At least Kojima can create an immersive story, that stuff is clearly on its way out."
    Sadly yes :( I doubt will ever see a game so rich on story as Metal Gear Solid 4 was for a while, if ever.

    I agree with what David said but - I dunno... just because he has killed people doesn't mean he would neccessarily not be scared to do it to himself. That does show him to be weak like he says but, I dunno.

    Yeah I suppose he's right.
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    #25  Edited By eccentrix
    @get2sammyb said:
    " I agree with what David said but - I dunno... just because he has killed people doesn't mean he would neccessarily not be scared to do it to himself. That does show him to be weak like he says but, I dunno.Yeah I suppose he's right. "
    It sounded more like he was saying because he has killed people he doesn't have the right to be scared to kill himself.
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    #26  Edited By The_Laughing_Man
    @eccentrix said:

    " @get2sammyb said:

    " I agree with what David said but - I dunno... just because he has killed people doesn't mean he would neccessarily not be scared to do it to himself. That does show him to be weak like he says but, I dunno.Yeah I suppose he's right. "
    It sounded more like he was saying because he has killed people he doesn't have the right to be scared to kill himself. "
    Why are you dragging up a year old thread? 
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    #27  Edited By eccentrix

     @The_Laughing_Man:  Either I didn't realise how old it was, or thought it didn't matter because there couldn't be that many threads in the MGS4 forum, maybe both.

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    #28  Edited By Tornac

    I totally agree with the suicide scene. I felt the exact same way.

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    #29  Edited By ryanwho

    Kojima has been doing what makes for the most dramatic scene as opposed to what makes the most sense for what the character does since the beginning. He did what he did because its more dramatic than what Snake would "actually" do.

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