Now granted laptop's aren't the prime choice when it comes to PC gaming but i would like some recommendations on some good gaming Laptop's. I'm not striving for crysis perfection but would like to play,

Empire Total War, Civ 4, Warhammer Dawn of War 2, Team Fortress just to name a few

Everyone is going to tell you to get a desktop

*Bump* Anyone?

You can plug mice into laptops y'know.

Not necessarily. I don't even game much on this laptop and I use a mouse all the time, mostly because using a touchpad is an utter pain in the arse.

I have a "gaming" laptop and it serves me well.  It is a bit more expensive than buying a desktop but if you want the luxary of mobility then i would reccommend the one i picked up:   http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9172511&st=gateway+FX&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1218043606827 
 
If you can deal with the obnoxious and lame back art, it's pretty damn good.  Get a wireless mouse and you should be set for some PC gaming.

Well in all seriousness how much would it cost to build a decent gaming desktop?

Macbook Pro 13".
 
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I know people will say buy a desktop, but I don't pc game much so  a laptop works better for me.  And if I do occasionally want to play a game, I like to have a laptop that can.  
 
I just bout this one a couple weeks ago, and so far it's pretty good.

I know what you mean by wanting a gaming laptop. That way you can sit somewhere comfortable, like in bed, on a couch, you can take it if you're going somewhere. I got mine 2 years ago from a company called Asus - an extremely high-respected company in the computer world. They actually make motherboards for most desktop computers that you see today, so even that there says something. Anyway, they have a series of laptops called G1's, and man they're good. I'm not sure what their best model is right now, but when I got mine two years ago (which was only half as good as their best gaming laptop), the G1 was one of the greatest laptops. The reason why many people don't own Asus is because they aren't mass produced and sold in stores like most others... you have to call them and order it, or get it from an online store. If you really want a gaming laptop, I highly advise looking into the higher-end Asus gaming laptops. This one i'm using now is 2 years old and I can run Prototype on it. I know that's not saying much (Prototype's graphics aren't the best) but the fact that a 2 year old laptop can run a new current gen console/pc game has to say something.

Well i looked at the ASUS website, which one is the most powerful gaming one they have?

It depends on the price perameters. Generally, Anything without an integrated graphics card will play  the games mentioned above (hell, even my Dell inspiron with an X3100 integrated will playe TF2 and DMC4!) It all depends on prices as you get more bang for your buck. Most people will tell you to go for alienware for the high end stuff but I would get something from rock direct if it's that high end (Alien ware is equally awesome and more flashy but generally £1000+). Otherwise, something like a dell XPS laptop or studio (Make sure it has dedicated graphics) XPS are usaully £700+ and Studios £500+. Price determines the power in the world of PC gaming. 
Also, You must remeber, that processors etc will be less powerful in laptops and they have only started putting in Quadcore's into recent laptops (really high end) let alone core i7.
Everyone will tell you to go for a desktop if your thinking of gaming constantly/main function, but if it's just for a few on the side, pick your options from above :)
 
Ultimately, for the same price you could build an awesome desktop that would knock all laptops on their feet for around £700 so it all depends on the price and what you need it for whether gaming or just a bit on the side along with the regular functions.
 

@KaosAngel

" Macbook Pro 13".  /thread "

I really appreciate your advice man, your the first person that actually gave me some useful info. Now based on your suggestion i have now turned my interest on actually building a Gaming Desktop since it should only cost $700 like you said but i haven't a clue where to start

" I really appreciate your advice man, your the first person that actually gave me some useful info. Now based on your suggestion i have now turned my interest on actually building a Gaming Desktop since it should only cost $700 like you said but i haven't a clue where to start "

I bought a Dell XPS M1710 about 2 years ago now. The gaming on it was great but then one day the Motherboard fried from overuse in unventilated conditions. Luckily I bought it with a 4 year warranty and they replaced it no prob for an updated model M1730, which is more sleeker and sexier. I can play all of my games on high setting (Fallout 3 mostly), but the problem you need to recognize when gaming on a Lappy is the incredible heat they produce when in full chugging o' energy mode. For the most part I can game on High settings in Fallout 3 or WoW (until I quit just recently) for about 3 hours, after which the performance will dip down considerably, and will become unplayable unless you turn the settings down. I have noticed considerable improvement since I switched from 32-bit XP and Vista to my 64-bit Windows 7 RC, BUT the overheating will always be a problem since there is so much heat production in such a small space.  
 
The idea of being mobile in my gaming and Programming assignments is great, but in hindsight, were I to have chosen again I would have definitely bought a small lappy for programming/classes and then kept my gaming exclusive to a Custom System with high-end ventilation solutions. If you are absolutely dead-set on leanring from your own experience, the Dell XPS M1730 is a great Lappy for gaming, and with a Military discount it cost me about 2k for a 3.5K system. But, if you have no access to such discounts or simply want it for gaming primarily, I would highly suggest you build your own Desktop via the YouTube instructional Vids and check Newegg.com and BensBargains.com for great deals. 
  
I am still quite content with my Lappy and seeing as how it is my only real computer in my place since my 5 year old desky has been turned into a media player in my rec room. I am not an avid Computer game player anymore, though. If you are on the bleeding-edge of technology, and dont just use it for Sam and Max type Adventure games on the fly, then definitely go a different route. Haha, essentially I am regurgitating all of Echoes221's advice, but the man certainly has all valid points. 

Please buy an alienware laptop. They cost much more less than other laptops.    http://www.alienware.com/products/notebook-computers.aspx I'd say the CrossFireX™ / Core™2 Quad

Well looks like after much consideration i'm gonna have to just opt for a gaming laptop, i appreciate everyone's advice even though im going against it by getting a lappy. Now my question to everyone is, is alienware customer service really that bad and can i get the same laptop specs they offer for a much cheaper price on a different brand?

" Well looks like after much consideration i'm gonna have to just opt for a gaming laptop, i appreciate everyone's advice even though im going against it by getting a lappy. Now my question to everyone is, is alienware customer service really that bad and can i get the same laptop specs they offer for a much cheaper price on a different brand? "

Would the mX-17 be worth spending the extra money on or could i still upgrade some parts on the mx-15 and still spend less than 1,700

Again, I quote some anonymous poster on this forum when I say:
 
Good. Gaming. Laptop.
 
Choose two.

" I know yes, but then it kind of detracts from the portability. "

If you don't mind, post back here and tell me how it goes. I'm looking to get a laptop for college next year, and I'd like to play games on it. 

Could someone with actual advice please answer my question as stated above, and no problem Player1 i will let you know how it goes

Anything from Alienware will run each and every one of the games you mention fine, and should play most if not all things to an acceptable degree for some time.
 
But in the end it all depends on what you have to spend.
 
HP have some good high end laptops, but again they are just as expensive as Alienware.
 
Most other vendors will have something to suit your needs, but will always be the top model in each range.
 
The 2 most important thing you need to look for (in my opinion of course) are the CPU and the Graphics chip.
 
Make sure the CPU is a top end one, ie core 2 duo rather than centrino or celeron, and the GPU needs to be a proper player too, if it has intel stay away, if its from either AMD(ATi) or nVidia, make sure its not one of their budget smaller chips, make sure its the fully flegde one that means business.
 
Other than that I dont think your gonne get anyone givin you anything better, seen as there are so many different laptop vendors and models, no one is gonna go away and research them all for you, youre gonna have to do it yourself, but at least you now may have a better idea of the things to look for when you do.

Thank you, i wasn't trying to be pushy or be lazy its just i plan to purchase the laptop in the next couple of weeks and am trying to gather as much info as i can as well as researching laptops on my own.