Great M+KB alternative for all you Living Room PC Duders.

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#1 Posted by hwy_61 (1046 posts) -
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#2 Posted by Ravenlight (8057 posts) -

What's with all the lines over the trackpad? Do they light up?

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#3 Posted by Superfriend (1702 posts) -

I don´t know about the touchpad on the right. Well and good for browsing the web with your living room PC.. but for playing games? Nah. I´d rather screw an oversized solid mousepad to the right side of a wireless keyboard :P

BTW: A real livingroom PC for games/non work only seems like a super cool idea. I just recently found out that Windows 8 has no native controller support, so I guess I can´t go that route, but I still want that PC next to my TV!

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#4 Posted by Branthog (5773 posts) -

@Superfriend said:

I don´t know about the touchpad on the right. Well and good for browsing the web with your living room PC.. but for playing games? Nah. I´d rather screw an oversized solid mousepad to the right side of a wireless keyboard :P

BTW: A real livingroom PC for games/non work only seems like a super cool idea. I just recently found out that Windows 8 has no native controller support, so I guess I can´t go that route, but I still want that PC next to my TV!

The problem is this precludes you using your PC for anything else. :/

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#5 Posted by hwy_61 (1046 posts) -
@Ravenlight That would be awesome, but, no.
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#6 Posted by Jams (3043 posts) -

@Ravenlight said:

What's with all the lines over the trackpad? Do they light up?

Eddie Van Halen designed it

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#7 Posted by obcdexter (894 posts) -

I have that thing, never use it though.

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#8 Posted by Justin258 (13893 posts) -

That looks like a handy solution if you need to browse the web, change options, etc., but it doesn't seem any good for actual gaming. You might be able to play Dragon Age Origins on it if you pause all the time, albeit it would be clunky, or maybe X-Com. But something like a shooter or anything that needs quick precision? No.

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#9 Posted by Bell_End (1234 posts) -

i use an apple wireless keyboard, the aluminum one. its very small and light weight and a logitect mouse.

and i have one of those trays with a cushion on oneside. works great.

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#10 Posted by hwy_61 (1046 posts) -

I should've been clearer. When I say Living Room Duders, I mean those that are using a game pad.

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#11 Posted by djou (895 posts) -

I bought and use one of these after Ryan talked about his HTPC build. Its an okay device but feels really cheap. The keys are too mushy and the key caps feel flimsy. I constantly mistap the touchpad, doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me that they allow the touch pad to register taps and include two buttons underneath. There is also no way to configure the touchpad sensitivity and the scrolling is not fast. I had to buy a wireless mouse to supplement since I found it impossible to do long stretches of web browser on the K400. This is a unique item and good for the price but for people who are thinking about buying it, see if you can live with a regular keyboard and mouse first.

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#12 Posted by hwy_61 (1046 posts) -
@djou You can disable the tap gestures by holding fn and hitting left click.
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#13 Posted by djou (895 posts) -

@hwy_61: Ah, thanks this is very helpful. I'll do it tonight. I wish this were a bit more clear and I didn't need someone on a forum to tell me this.

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#14 Edited by OfficeGamer (1120 posts) -

I honestly don't get why this is so complicated. You don't need that keyboard, you can simply lay your gaming keyboard (which are usually light) on your thighs and have your mouse on a small smooth wooden pad next to you.

A touch pad can't replace the joy of holding a fat mouse :)

Why is this so hard to do? K on legs, M on small pad. Been doing it for years.
Why is this so hard to do? K on legs, M on small pad. Been doing it for years.
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#15 Posted by hwy_61 (1046 posts) -
@djou Yeah, all the disable options are on the get started fold out that comes with it. You should be able to find it on Logitech's support page if you threw it out.
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#16 Edited by inkerman (1492 posts) -

@OfficeGamer: Your setup is particularly close, so the wires reach, for most people that would be a problem. But you know, wireless would totally work, I don't get the issue, but then again, I don't game in front of my tv.

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#17 Posted by oraknabo (1708 posts) -

I'd rather have one with a trackball than a pad.

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#18 Posted by OfficeGamer (1120 posts) -

@Inkerman said:

@OfficeGamer: Your setup is particularly close, so the wires reach, for most people that would be a problem. But you know, wireless would totally work, I don't get the issue, but then again, I don't game in front of my tv.

Actually I do this in the living room a lot. All you need is 2-4 USB extension cords based on how far you are. USB cords are pretty easy and quick to handle, connect and disconnect.

Or as you said you can go wireless if that's your thing. Personally I think wireless is a hassle because of the charging/batteries as well as their notoriety when it comes to lag. But different strokes!

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#19 Posted by JoeyRavn (5185 posts) -

@hwy_61 said:

I should've been clearer. When I say Living Room Duders, I mean those that are using a game pad.

But do you use it as a replacement for your gamepad? Or as the keyboard you could need from time to time to navigate the computer? Because I would never forsake a gamepad to play a game with that keyboard and, especially, a trackpad.

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#20 Posted by Superfriend (1702 posts) -

@Branthog said:

@Superfriend said:

I don´t know about the touchpad on the right. Well and good for browsing the web with your living room PC.. but for playing games? Nah. I´d rather screw an oversized solid mousepad to the right side of a wireless keyboard :P

BTW: A real livingroom PC for games/non work only seems like a super cool idea. I just recently found out that Windows 8 has no native controller support, so I guess I can´t go that route, but I still want that PC next to my TV!

The problem is this precludes you using your PC for anything else. :/

Well, in my case it´s more like a second PC that I assembled from all the older parts that got thrown out while upgrading. Still a pretty decent machine, a core 2 with a gtx 460. But yeah, I have to say I wouldn´t want to hook up the only PC in the house exclusively to the TV.

And I love the idea of ruining a keyboard by attaching a solid surface to it. Gotta love destroying things home improvement style.

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#21 Posted by MikkaQ (10296 posts) -

Someone needs to make a good wireless mechanical keyboard with a trackpad.

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#22 Posted by hwy_61 (1046 posts) -
@JoeyRavn The second one.
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#23 Posted by Saethir (360 posts) -

I use this same keyboard with a living room PC that I built specifically for media streaming and playing games with a game pad, and I think it suits this use almost perfectly. It's just simpler than having a regular mouse and keyboard hanging around in there, and since the mouse is only used for launching things 90% of the time, it's fine. I could see if it was your only PC you would want a regular setup, but then hooking up your main PC to your living room TV isn't exactly a regular setup anyway.

It's a very niche use, to be sure, but I think it works well for what it's meant for.

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#24 Posted by hwy_61 (1046 posts) -
@Saethir

I use this same keyboard with a living room PC that I built specifically for media streaming and playing games with a game pad, and I think it suits this use almost perfectly. It's just simpler than having a regular mouse and keyboard hanging around in there, and since the mouse is only used for launching things 90% of the time, it's fine. I could see if it was your only PC you would want a regular setup, but then hooking up your main PC to your living room TV isn't exactly a regular setup anyway.

It's a very niche use, to be sure, but I think it works well for what it's meant for.

This guy gets it.
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#25 Posted by Lysergica33 (601 posts) -

@OfficeGamer said:

I honestly don't get why this is so complicated. You don't need that keyboard, you can simply lay your gaming keyboard (which are usually light) on your thighs and have your mouse on a small smooth wooden pad next to you.

A touch pad can't replace the joy of holding a fat mouse :)

Why is this so hard to do? K on legs, M on small pad. Been doing it for years.
Why is this so hard to do? K on legs, M on small pad. Been doing it for years.

The problem with this though, is that it's bad for prolonged sessions. The way you have to kind of slump down to get your arm at a comfortable angle to the mouse when you're sat like that does your back and neck no good at all. I ended up with all kinds of fucked up knots in my neck from doing this so, be careful man.

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