Are we on TGS or assume dead for Persona 5?

#1 Posted by slyspider (1037 posts) -

As much as it pains me to say it, with it missing E3, which I personally didn't expect it to be at, TGS 2013 seems like the last hope for the announcement of P5. If it doesn't show and no mention of it is made, are we safe to assume something happened in development and, while it will come out, it won't be coming out in any relative time frame of the next few years? It's been a LONG time since P4, and while after arena came out they claimed the P4 team was working exclusively on a new game, I can't help but feel like it will be 2016-17 before we see a release in japan. :'(

#2 Edited by believer258 (11044 posts) -

Wasn't Persona 4 one of Atlus's most profitable and most popular games? I doubt that they would simply abandon that series, especially since they're a fairly niche developer as far as I know.

EDIT: Then again, Nocturne was also a relatively popular SMT game from what I know - I think they reprinted it here in the West, which doesn't often happen to their games - and we're only just now getting a sequel to that.

#3 Posted by Hailinel (22712 posts) -

You have to remember that there was a large gap in time between Persona 2 and Persona 3. They cranked out Persona 4 relatively quickly because the engine and demon assets already existed. Atlus has said before that Persona 5 is in development, and I imagine that it'll probably be a super-late generation PS3 release, at the very least, if the pattern holds.

#4 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19158 posts) -

No. I also don't expect it to be at TGS.

Plus, Atlus/Index is in a bit of a bind right now so who knows how it's affecting the game's development.

#5 Edited by bigjeffrey (4160 posts) -

Persona 4 Arena 2 (2014) - VITA exclusive

Persona 5 (2015) - Playstation 3 and Xbox 360

Are ATLUS themselves doing the Persona 3 Movie or is that outsourced?

#6 Posted by Video_Game_King (34611 posts) -

We still need one more Persona 4 game. THE PATTERN MUST NOT BE BROKEN!

#7 Posted by slyspider (1037 posts) -

@video_game_king: p3p came out after 4, so Super Persona 4 Golden will be out after 5!

#8 Edited by believer258 (11044 posts) -

@hailinel said:

You have to remember that there was a large gap in time between Persona 2 and Persona 3. They cranked out Persona 4 relatively quickly because the engine and demon assets already existed. Atlus has said before that Persona 5 is in development, and I imagine that it'll probably be a super-late generation PS3 release, at the very least, if the pattern holds.

A good question might be "Do the PS3 and 360 have the same staying power that the PS2 did?" I can't pinpoint why, but I just feel like once next generation rolls around, this one is going to get the door shut on it a whole lot faster than the PS2 did previous generation.

Also, unless Atlus has officially stated something, I'm still not convinced that Persona 5 will be a console game. I could definitely see it being a Vita and/or 3DS game.

@video_game_king said:

We still need one more Persona 4 game. THE PATTERN MUST NOT BE BROKEN!

What pattern?

There are three games with the title "Persona 2", one of which is a remake. There are three games with the title "Persona 3", one of which is a remake. There are three games with the title "Persona 4", one of which is a remake. The pattern seems fulfilled to me.

EDIT: I do know that one of those versions of Persona 2 was remade and not released here, but the other one was. I just get their names mixed up all the time.

#9 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19158 posts) -

@believer258 said:

There are three games with the title "Persona 2", one of which is a remake.

You mean four?

#10 Edited by believer258 (11044 posts) -

@fluxwavez: I realized that as soon as I posted it.

#11 Posted by Hailinel (22712 posts) -

Persona 4 Arena 2 (2014) - VITA exclusive

Persona 5 (2015) - Playstation 3 and Xbox 360

Are ATLUS themselves doing the Persona 3 Movie or is that outsourced?

The P3 movie is the same deal as the P4 anime. An animation studio is producing it with Atlus's oversight.

#12 Posted by kerse (2039 posts) -

P5 just announced, coming to the Playstation 2 this november.

#13 Posted by FriendlyPhoenix (273 posts) -

It's only been two years since Catherine. I'd imagine JRPGs require a huge amount of pre-production time so I doubt they have enough of P5 made to warrant an announcement this year.

#14 Edited by Dagbiker (6898 posts) -

I have not looked very closely but it looks like Index is just selling off IP's and assets, Such as Class of Heroes. Which isn't even owned by Atlus anymore.

Even if they did make a P5, and I hope they do, nothing can recreate that magic...

e: (Although I'm on my second playthrough of p4g so what do I know.)

#15 Posted by Video_Game_King (34611 posts) -

@video_game_king said:

We still need one more Persona 4 game. THE PATTERN MUST NOT BE BROKEN!

What pattern?

Not counting PSP rereleases of the first two(ish) games, the pattern goes thus:

1 Persona 1

2 Persona 2 (Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment)

3 Persona 3 (Vanilla, FES, and Portable)

And so far, we only have three Persona 4 (Vanilla, Golden, and Arena). THE PROPHECY REMAINS UNFULFILLED.

#16 Edited by believer258 (11044 posts) -

@believer258 said:

@video_game_king said:

We still need one more Persona 4 game. THE PATTERN MUST NOT BE BROKEN!

What pattern?

Not counting PSP rereleases of the first two(ish) games, the pattern goes thus:

1 Persona 1

2 Persona 2 (Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment)

3 Persona 3 (Vanilla, FES, and Portable)

And so far, we only have three Persona 4 (Vanilla, Golden, and Arena). THE PROPHECY REMAINS UNFULFILLED.

Isn't P3 Portable kinda iffy, though, since it's just a remake with a re-worked overworld? It's the same game, essentially.

#17 Posted by Video_Game_King (34611 posts) -

@believer258:

From what I've read of it, they shuffle around enough content to justify the pattern. The Answer is pretty much a bonus dungeon here instead of an entire epilogue.

#18 Posted by RedCream (704 posts) -

Believe people!

#19 Posted by Rafaelfc (1283 posts) -

It will happen... in due time

#20 Posted by hidys (1028 posts) -

Bearing in my that Atlus' parent company is under investigation for pretty serious corporate crime, you will not see the game at TGS.

#21 Edited by Eirikr (1006 posts) -

when is shin megami tensei iv: maniacs coming out

#22 Posted by mrfluke (4844 posts) -

they kind of didnt end the persona 4 arena storyline, so i imagine the continuation of that is first.

but i think tgs you get a tease of persona 5,

#23 Edited by believer258 (11044 posts) -

@believer258:

From what I've read of it, they shuffle around enough content to justify the pattern. The Answer is pretty much a bonus dungeon here instead of an entire epilogue.

As someone who has played both (only FES to completion), I would have a hard time arguing that they shuffle around enough content to count. But it does not sound like P3P added much more to P3 than Golden did to P4 - but then if we're counting re-releases and remakes, then the PSP versions of Persona 1 and 2 must count as well.

#24 Posted by DonutFever (3515 posts) -

That Index stuff has me pretty worried. Hopefully if something does happen, P5 can get Saints Row IV'd

#25 Posted by EXTomar (4125 posts) -

How would people feel about a FES style follow on instead of Persona 5 (because I have a feeling they may pull that as a stop gap)?

#26 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19158 posts) -

@extomar said:

How would people feel about a FES style follow on instead of Persona 5 (because I have a feeling they may pull that as a stop gap)?

No.

And no.

#27 Posted by Blackout62 (1303 posts) -

It'll be just like P4, it'll come out when we're well into the next-gen for the PS3.

#28 Posted by EXTomar (4125 posts) -

@extomar said:

How would people feel about a FES style follow on instead of Persona 5 (because I have a feeling they may pull that as a stop gap)?

No.

And no.

I'd like to be wrong but if I am they pull a FF9 which was a fine game as well but many forgot or ignored because of the platform switch.

#29 Posted by Hailinel (22712 posts) -

@video_game_king said:

@believer258:

From what I've read of it, they shuffle around enough content to justify the pattern. The Answer is pretty much a bonus dungeon here instead of an entire epilogue.

As someone who has played both (only FES to completion), I would have a hard time arguing that they shuffle around enough content to count. But it does not sound like P3P added much more to P3 than Golden did to P4 - but then if we're counting re-releases and remakes, then the PSP versions of Persona 1 and 2 must count as well.

The Girl's Side in P3P is a pretty different experience. Some unique social links and story events.

#30 Edited by Turambar (6484 posts) -

@extomar said:

@fluxwavez said:

@extomar said:

How would people feel about a FES style follow on instead of Persona 5 (because I have a feeling they may pull that as a stop gap)?

No.

And no.

I'd like to be wrong but if I am they pull a FF9 which was a fine game as well but many forgot or ignored because of the platform switch.

Considering how Persona 3 and 4 came out well after the release of the PS3, there's no danger of that.

#31 Edited by Video_Game_King (34611 posts) -

@turambar said:

@extomar said:

@fluxwavez said:

@extomar said:

How would people feel about a FES style follow on instead of Persona 5 (because I have a feeling they may pull that as a stop gap)?

No.

And no.

I'd like to be wrong but if I am they pull a FF9 which was a fine game as well but many forgot or ignored because of the platform switch.

Considering how Persona 3 and 4 came out well after the release of the PS3, there's no danger of that.

Plus how many people forgot about FF9? Isn't that critically acclaimed and pretty well loved by the Final Fantasy community?

#32 Posted by Morningstar (2049 posts) -

@turambar said:

@extomar said:

@fluxwavez said:

@extomar said:

How would people feel about a FES style follow on instead of Persona 5 (because I have a feeling they may pull that as a stop gap)?

No.

And no.

I'd like to be wrong but if I am they pull a FF9 which was a fine game as well but many forgot or ignored because of the platform switch.

Considering how Persona 3 and 4 came out well after the release of the PS3, there's no danger of that.

Plus how many people forgot about FF9? Isn't that critically acclaimed and pretty well loved by the Final Fantasy community?

I would say so, certainly.

#33 Posted by afabs515 (833 posts) -

People were saying for years that Versus and KH3 were never gonna happen (myself included). Well, we all know what happened with those games, so I'm gonna be optimistic and say P5 will be the same way. I would be really surprised if it was shown at TGS considering all the shit Index is in right now. But I really think it's gonna happen at some point either way.

Also, P4A ended on a cliffhanger which I can only assume is a teaser for P5.

Good things come to those who wait... I hope.

#34 Posted by XtremePudim (84 posts) -

It’s worth noting that Persona 4 came out December 2008 for the PS2, by then the PS3 had been around for 2 years, and the 360 for 3. Therefore, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Persona 5 come out for 360/PS3 in 2014/2015, maybe even 2016.

#35 Posted by pyromagnestir (3961 posts) -

@afabs515 said:

People were saying for years that Versus and KH3 were never gonna happen (myself included). Well, we all know what happened with those games, so I'm gonna be optimistic and say P5 will be the same way. I would be really surprised if it was shown at TGS considering all the shit Index is in right now. But I really think it's gonna happen at some point either way.

Also, P4A ended on a cliffhanger which I can only assume is a teaser for P5.

Good things come to those who wait... I hope.

I assumed Persona 4 Arena was a teaser for Persona 4 Arena 2 and Persona 5 would be it's own loosely connected thing. That's what I'm hoping for anyway.

#36 Posted by Hailinel (22712 posts) -

@afabs515 said:

People were saying for years that Versus and KH3 were never gonna happen (myself included). Well, we all know what happened with those games, so I'm gonna be optimistic and say P5 will be the same way. I would be really surprised if it was shown at TGS considering all the shit Index is in right now. But I really think it's gonna happen at some point either way.

Also, P4A ended on a cliffhanger which I can only assume is a teaser for P5.

Good things come to those who wait... I hope.

I assumed Persona 4 Arena was a teaser for Persona 4 Arena 2 and Persona 5 would be it's own loosely connected thing. That's what I'm hoping for anyway.

No, P4A was a one-off thing. I'm pretty sure that if it was meant to have a direct fighting game sequel, we would have heard something about it by now. The cliffhanger is much more likely connected to Persona 5.

#37 Posted by Snail (8470 posts) -

@hailinel said:

@pyromagnestir said:

@afabs515 said:

People were saying for years that Versus and KH3 were never gonna happen (myself included). Well, we all know what happened with those games, so I'm gonna be optimistic and say P5 will be the same way. I would be really surprised if it was shown at TGS considering all the shit Index is in right now. But I really think it's gonna happen at some point either way.

Also, P4A ended on a cliffhanger which I can only assume is a teaser for P5.

Good things come to those who wait... I hope.

I assumed Persona 4 Arena was a teaser for Persona 4 Arena 2 and Persona 5 would be it's own loosely connected thing. That's what I'm hoping for anyway.

No, P4A was a one-off thing. I'm pretty sure that if it was meant to have a direct fighting game sequel, we would have heard something about it by now. The cliffhanger is much more likely connected to Persona 5.

Frankly, there's as much reason to believe in one of the scenarios as much as the other. Unless you work at Atlus.

That's even despite the fact that, like someone has said in this thread, they're going through some serious financial strains right now, and who knows how that might affect which titles end up being announced or not.

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