I just want to know what do you guys think after the BombCrew had a distaste for the news about this.
 
Honestly? I think it's wonderful. The PS3 has been a closed garden much like a stock iPhone.
I can't wait for people to make it read NTFS drives, mkv file support, emulators (someone is working on a Dreamcast emulator which I find very excisting) and - yes - backup manager. Just having most of my library on my HDD instead of having to swap discs is, to me, very exciting.
Downside is that obviously I wouldn't be able to connect to PSN without Sony banning the console. 
Pirates? Yeah, not too worried. Pirates don't buy PS3s. They just go with a X360 or PC. You know what? Those people would benefit Sony by buying a console which they have previously ignored.
 
Just my 2 cents.

The main problem imo is not piracy but the huge amount of cheaters that will suddenly flood  ps3 online gaming effectively ruining it, and now it seems that's just a matter of time. 
 
Personally I think given the nature of the breach found Sony won't be able to tell who's using pirated software and who's not.
 

@max3000

" Pirates don't buy PS3s. They just go with a X360 or PC. You know what? Those people would benefit Sony by buying a console which they have previously ignored. "

I could have sworn that mkv support was already a feature. 
 
From what they were talking about though, it sounds real bad for Sony, which may end up being bad for Sony customers. The stuff they talked about with being able to easily hack without any hardware modification is crazy. It seems to me that this will only lead to a lot more locking-down in one way or another, if not this gen, then next.

Piracy is irrelevant, because the Ps3 has been pirate ready for ages now. This just adds home-brew support.

" Piracy is irrelevant, because the Ps3 has been pirate ready for ages now. This just adds home-brew support. "

Frankly, this looks bad for Sony, and I think Geohot is a petulant little shit.  Thanks to that motherfucker, another doorway to piracy has been opened, and god only knows what Sony might do in response to this.  They already tried the PSPGo and watched it tank.
 
Seriously, motherfuckers like Geohot should not be celebrated.

" The main problem imo is not piracy but the huge amount of cheaters that will suddenly flood  ps3 online gaming effectively ruining it, and now it seems that's just a matter of time."
 

If I can somehow run a damn Dreamcast Emulator and play homebrew shit and mods of single player games I'm buying a PS3 in an instant.

" Frankly, this looks bad for Sony, and I think Geohot is a petulant little shit.  Thanks to that motherfucker, another doorway to piracy has been opened, and god only knows what Sony might do in response to this.  They already tried the PSPGo and watched it tank.  Seriously, motherfuckers like Geohot should not be celebrated. "

" @onarum said:

" The main problem imo is not piracy but the huge amount of cheaters that will suddenly flood  ps3 online gaming effectively ruining it, and now it seems that's just a matter of time."
 

There's already hacks and cheats for PS3 games. As much as I hate for him to do this, but my brother mentions all he does is take his save file (or the data file, don't know which one), puts it on his computer, and uses some program to install some data into it. 

The scary thing to me is how easy this seems to be to set up. I fear this becoming really mainstream due to the ease of doing it and it wrecking the software sales environment for Sony's first party developers. Could you imagine if Uncharted 3 only sells 1 million copies because another 1-2 million pirated the game. That would be disastrous for them and potentially shut down studios as they have so much riding on each game. It's like the Dreamcast where people would have tons of burned CD's with labels on them (only easier to do than that). 
 
I realize that CFW does not equal Piracy necessarily and I have no inherent problem with CFW itself. I think it's great on phones and the XMBC on the original XBOX. However, this CFW in particular (from what I understand) just simplifies the process for pirating games, so it does have a direct and huge effect on piracy. I don't think it's as easy as having these general over-sweeping opinions on hacking and CFW in whichever way you tend to go in - you have to look at each instance and it's conditions. What I think is that this particular CFW hack threatens the PS3's status and I support any actions to shut it down because of this. I don't really care if it's Sony fault because they didn't make their system secure enough (which seems to be the case) or not. They may ultimately be wrong in all of this, but they have a greater responsibility to make sure the PS3 platform isn't compromised. Many people have a lot of money invested in their PS3 setup and don't care about someone being able to run some custom program on their machine. My main hope is that Sony can keep PSN secure and that devs get compensated for their work so that we can continure to have better and better games in the future.

on the bright side though I really believe that this won't be much of a hit for sony because I have a strong suspicion that all the big 3 will be announcing their next gen consoles on this years E3, so basically their console got hacked on the very end of it's "life", no big deal, I'm sure they are taking all of this in consideration for their next one.

"LEGAL TOOLS that do not contain any keys or any SONY software created by the team fail0verflow (please clone this repository and avoid to the big fish eats the small fish using the money and the recurses of one Multinational against talented people that seeking new hombrew uses in the PS3 console and the return of Linux)"

1. They  deliberately went out after those keys. 
2. Like they weren't going to release it and make a profit out of it .
3. They had four years to come out with  usable  apps,  legally , and nothing came out them.  

As if we needed another thread on this.
I'd be really, really careful if I intended to homebrew or CFW my PS3 because there's no doubt in my mind Sony can (and will) end up banning people if this gets big. Digital Foundry already published an article explaining that Sony might have a lot more control over the console than you think, which you can read HERE.

" Frankly, this looks bad for Sony, and I think Geohot is a petulant little shit.  Thanks to that motherfucker, another doorway to piracy has been opened, and god only knows what Sony might do in response to this.  They already tried the PSPGo and watched it tank.  Seriously, motherfuckers like Geohot should not be celebrated. "

I'm on the fence, if all that comes of this is huge amounts of piracy, then I don't see how this is good in the long run. If a thriving homebrew community can get behind it and create interesting software that enhances the PS3's abilities, that would be interesting. I'll wait and see, but I;m not eager to work any voodoo on my system just yet.

" @Hailinel:  If they made it more secure people like mr Geohot wouldn't be able to hack it, it's Sony's fault. "

" @Hailinel said:

" Frankly, this looks bad for Sony, and I think Geohot is a petulant little shit.  Thanks to that motherfucker, another doorway to piracy has been opened, and god only knows what Sony might do in response to this.  They already tried the PSPGo and watched it tank.  Seriously, motherfuckers like Geohot should not be celebrated. "

I don't think you fully know what this hack is. Piracy has been available on the PS3 loooong before this. "

Piracy is bad hurr hurr but if I can get a PS2 emulator, one of the PS3's advertised functions, and put my PS2 away again, I'll be glad. I'd prefer if Sony themselves would do it, but whatevs.

Opinion? So they cracked something, big deal, won't change how I use my PS3. Which is for blu-rays and the occasional exclusive. 

" Piracy is bad hurr hurr but if I can get a PS2 emulator, one of the PS3's advertised functions, and put my PS2 away again, I'll be glad. I'd prefer if Sony themselves would do it, but whatevs. "

" @Hailinel:  Correct me if I am wrong but, that geohot dude didn't actually steal anything tho, he just kinda opened the door. "

Just shows support linux or gtfo. Like they said, either a piece of hardware has linux on it or it will get hacked and with hacking comes piracy. Companies dont want pc gaming around because its not a closed system. Companies want a closed product system so they can control products to the fullest extent. I understand on both ends the ridiculousness of it all. Consumers wanting to control every aspect of their product even when its unnecessary and companies being control crazy over their products. Its all shit

I'm sure sony REALLY likes it too buddy....

Hope Dolphin emulator is ported with Move support. That would be hilarious.

Thoughts: Now the poor students can "afford" games too! woooo... 

Some people are making it sound like it's the end of the PS3 because it's been hacked which I find rather funny.   Also the people going on about putting emulators on there PS3, why not just download the many emulators that are on the PC? Well I guess if you have a shit computer it might not run very well but  I'm sure most computers now of days can run emulators fairly well.

it might help them in a way. some people might be interested in hacking the ps3 into homebrew stuff. my friend just did the tool. so far he downloaded another person's dead rising 2 save. i got to see the ending of dead rising 2 without having to put in the long hours. i still plan on beating it some day. 
 
i would want to do it because of emulators that i could put on it. maybe put a ps2 one because backwards compatible isn't coming out.

I think this may kill the PS3. Games will be hacked ,and  there will be a huge increase in piracy. 
 
This is good if you like to steal stuff, but extremely  bad if you like video games.

" I think this may kill the PS3. Games will be hacked ,and  there will be a huge increase in piracy.    This is good if you like to steal stuff, but extremely  bad if you like video games. "

" I just want to know what do you guys think after the BombCrew had a distaste for the news about this.  Honestly? I think it's wonderful. The PS3 has been a closed garden much like a stock iPhone. I can't wait for people to make it read NTFS drives, mkv file support, emulators (someone is working on a Dreamcast emulator which I find very excisting) and - yes - backup manager. Just having most of my library on my HDD instead of having to swap discs is, to me, very exciting. Downside is that obviously I wouldn't be able to connect to PSN without Sony banning the console.  Pirates? Yeah, not too worried. Pirates don't buy PS3s. They just go with a X360 or PC. You know what? Those people would benefit Sony by buying a console which they have previously ignored.  Just my 2 cents. "

" @l4wd0g said:

" I think this may kill the PS3. Games will be hacked ,and  there will be a huge increase in piracy.    This is good if you like to steal stuff, but extremely  bad if you like video games. "

If this is the case, then wouldn't the 360 be dead already? Or the DS?  Anyways, does everyone know that Geohots CFW only allows homebrew software and no piracy. If you want to brag about piracy then I suggest you follow Flukes1 and Netkas. They're the ones trying to work on a backup manager. "

" @max3000 said:

" I just want to know what do you guys think after the BombCrew had a distaste for the news about this.  Honestly? I think it's wonderful. The PS3 has been a closed garden much like a stock iPhone. I can't wait for people to make it read NTFS drives, mkv file support, emulators (someone is working on a Dreamcast emulator which I find very excisting) and - yes - backup manager. Just having most of my library on my HDD instead of having to swap discs is, to me, very exciting. Downside is that obviously I wouldn't be able to connect to PSN without Sony banning the console.  Pirates? Yeah, not too worried. Pirates don't buy PS3s. They just go with a X360 or PC. You know what? Those people would benefit Sony by buying a console which they have previously ignored.  Just my 2 cents. "

You forgot all the Trophy and multiplayer hacking that's going to emerge from this. Hell there's already an application that unlocks trophies.  I know the PS3 software has some faults and limitations, but the trade-off is much, much worse imo. Geohot and the failoverflow guys are assholes and I hope they get what's coming to them. "

I just seen on a few websites that hackers can easily unlock specific trophies and assign random dates to them. How the hell is there now a way to tell if someone hacked those trophies or not? 
 
Because on the 360 you can obviously tell when someone hacked their achievements. All of their games are 100%ed all of a sudden and there is either no time stamp on all of them or the same time stamp on all. But this trophy hacking thing looks like you can easily mask it. And it's this early into the game, who knows what else they'll come up with. Another thing to mention is that on the 360 all you have to do is report them and they lose all their points or get their 360 banned from online, or both.  
 
I once filed a few complaints against this one guy  (it was quite obvious he hacked) and what do you know about a month later all his games showed up as played, but they ALL had 0 GS. I don't know if he had to get a new xbox or not though. Needless to say, I felt satisfied :D 
 
In terms of other areas, I'm excited to see what they can do. I know the wonders of jailbreaking firsthand as my sister has her iPhone jailbroken and it really makes the device 10 times better. I can't imagine having a non-jailbroken iPhone after using it. I'm thinking the same thing will happen to the PS3 :D This hack looks really easy to do as well, all he did was put a USB drive in and voila.

They'll figure a way to stop the hacking and besides only a small percentage out of the user base will hack their console.

" They'll figure a way to stop the hacking and besides only a small percentage out of the user base will hack their console. "

He goes down, someone takes his spot. This is a cycle - no point discussing this. A waste of time.

" Frankly, this looks bad for Sony, and I think Geohot is a petulant little shit.  Thanks to that motherfucker, another doorway to piracy has been opened, and god only knows what Sony might do in response to this.  They already tried the PSPGo and watched it tank.  Seriously, motherfuckers like Geohot should not be celebrated. "

" @ch13696 said:

" @l4wd0g said:

" I think this may kill the PS3. Games will be hacked ,and  there will be a huge increase in piracy.    This is good if you like to steal stuff, but extremely  bad if you like video games. "

If this is the case, then wouldn't the 360 be dead already? Or the DS?  Anyways, does everyone know that Geohots CFW only allows homebrew software and no piracy. If you want to brag about piracy then I suggest you follow Flukes1 and Netkas. They're the ones trying to work on a backup manager. "

 They have mad chips(360) or R4 Card (DS), but as far as I know, the system architecture remains intact.   The PS3 hack allow them to control everything (blu-ray, firmware updates, games etc) . Firmware can't fix this problem.    All of those 1st party Sony games scheduled to release this year will be last we see of those games until PS4. Worst case scenario, the PS4 is launched a lot sooner than expected.  "

I think he's a really bright guy who should get a job that would let him harness these talents for less morally ambiguous means.  
 
I also fail to see how this will adversely affect Sony. Their market share here in Asia is still ~53% although modded 360s have been available for years. Pretty strange, since piracy is very much a viable option down here. I even recall reading an article that attributed the PS2's dominance in the last generation to piracy.

I'm all for it. You can already get NES emulators. 
 
I probably won't bother doing it but it's nice to have the option.

"  Pirates? Yeah, not too worried. Pirates don't buy PS3s. They just go with a X360 or PC. You know what? Those people would benefit Sony by buying a console which they have previously ignored.  Just my 2 cents. "

" @Hailinel:  If they made it more secure people like mr Geohot wouldn't be able to hack it, it's Sony's fault. "