@eternalvigil said:
@alex said:
@kurokeima: The GameJournoPro mailing list was literally just a mailing list a bunch of writers used to talk about the news of the day and do basic networking with other industry professionals. If you believe it was anything else, you're listening to a pile of ridiculous lies.
I understand where your coming from, but some of the leaked correspondence made it look like some of those using were trying to push for a untied front from all those who used the list, which made me concerned when I first saw it, as it seemed like possible collusion.
I trust you and this website to be honest and not lie to me, which is why I gave you the benefit of the doubt over it. I hope you understand why looking at that without context, it might worry people thinking about ethical journalism.
Hi. I hope I'm not stepping on the toes of the staff here, but as someone who was on the GameJournoPros list I want to clarify something beyond Alex's to-the-point statement: Everybody on that list still had other people to report to. Nobody who you saw talking in the e-mail leaks was somebody that could dictate rules or content free of any oversight. For example, if I wanted to say, "Let's delete this entire thread of comments," I would still have to go through several bosses to get that done. Even Greg Tito, who is Editor-in-Chief of The Escapist, has to report to his publisher.
So even if certain members of the group were trying to "bully" other members (which wasn't true, in this case. Tito himself said on a GamerGate stream hosted by Erik Kain that he solicited the opinions of his peers), it wouldn't have been the deciding factor on any outlet. In reality, it was a group of peers looking at a situation we don't see every day (we cover video games, not relationship drama) and asking each other, "How do we cover this? What's right in this situation?"
Another, much more important point: "Press Clubs" exist all over the country/world (as well as nationally), and as far as a "journalistic integrity" angle goes they're not considered a problem in everyday journalism (I'm talking "real," mainstream journalism here). So I don't understand why you would be upset to see writers you respect on the list of people in such a club (as GJP was), but maybe there's something I'm missing. As I said, I was in the group, so maybe it's hard for me to look at it as an outsider would... But I first found out the group existed via Twitter, and it didn't surprise me nor did I ever see it as a problem, even as someone who just likes reading video game coverage.
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