bkfountain

@Terramagi said:

Oh boo-fucking-hoo, your pet game didn't sell very well and isn't going to get ported to other platforms because of it (and the fact that Microsoft owns the property). Normal people just deal with it, as opposed to trying to guilt people into maneuvering through 5 menus to buy a game that clearly nobody cares about.

Actually, they hinted that Mark of the Ninja is going to Steam.

@Stache said:

Mark of the Ninja has been getting PLENTYof advertising on the Dashboard the past week. Not sure what your complaint is here.

Good on Microsoft should for attempting though.

I wonder if it's due to the backlash though. Even the game's dev posted on GAF about the lack of marketing the first few days after it released. Maybe MS is just slow as hell as a publisher, at least they didn't botch the release by neglecting to check the trademark status of the game's name. It's just another thing in the basket of bullshit that's been pushing devs to complain about moving to other platforms lately.

The 360 has a great selection of games on XBLA, they just need a way to highlight them better. That's why shutting down the Inside Xbox stuff was crazy. It shouldn't be too expensive to have a few people on staff contribute videos for the purpose of highlighting releases for the community.

MS's shift away from gaming is pushing me away from them. I don't care about another Halo or Gears. I would care about interesting XBLA titles, but they bury them menus deep in the fucked up games marketplace. The dashboard is bad enough, but MS doesn't do shit to promote most of the great games on XBLA, as you pretty much have to already know on your own what's coming out.

There's a dashboard app called Sales & Specials+ to highlight sales on content, since the dashboard is too cluttered and shitty to convey that information another way. MS even shut down the Inside Xbox video stuff that could have been used to promote upcoming games to the userbase, those videos were also buried in the dashboard revision. I feel that MS will only continue to shove indie devs to other platforms like Steam.

As for ads, if MS is going to continue going heavy, I wish they would at least cater them to you. I've never once bought any movies on Live, and I never will. As it is now, the dashboard is a cluttered mess with the broadest spectrum of ads they could sign. It's like going to the mailbox.

@GrantHeaslip said:

@bkfountain said:

@GrantHeaslip said:

It's a little weird they didn't somehow manage to get a $200 model out, but I get the sense Sony isn't in a position to take a loss of system sales right now. The leaks earlier on about this model made it sound like it was all about getting the manufacturing cost down.

It's natural to get the manufacturing costs down after being out for 6 years. What's crazy is that this cheap ass console is actually raising the base price to $269 from $249.

That's exactly what I mean -- I thought it was going to come with a price drop. They must just be taking bigger profits on each one sold now.

This is Sony being content with just making money the rest of the gen instead of trying to sell more consoles. It would be insane if the ps3 or 360 have no real price drops this holiday, but they apparently don't care anymore. Looks like crappy bundles until the new consoles launch.

@GrantHeaslip said:

It's a little weird they didn't somehow manage to get a $200 model out, but I get the sense Sony isn't in a position to take a loss of system sales right now. The leaks earlier on about this model made it sound like it was all about getting the manufacturing cost down.

It's natural to get the manufacturing costs down after being out for 6 years. What's crazy is that this cheap ass console is actually raising the base price to $269 from $249.

Did sony just do the first base model price increase for a console ever?

6 years into the console and a couple revisions later, and they bump the price up by $20. Hilarious. Maybe they're going to slowly increase the price of the ps3 so the $600 ps4 doesn't look as bad.

@believer258 said:

No, I don't want to beta test this - but I would be A-OK if MS would simply make everything faster. Yes, the UI still sucks and yes, having to move four pages over to get to my games is horrid. But as it stands it still works well enough when flipping through things, it's just that flipping through things takes way too long.

well you can tell the dashboard has had shit piled on since the console came out, and the decision for a non standard HDD can't help the situation much in 2012. Just stupid little UI things like loading images for my hundreds of XBLA games every time instead of caching them is a sign that it's time for a new console.

@DasUberOgre said:

Is it weird that I find the dashboard to be a cluttered mess but the ads are honestly not that big of a deal to me? The non-videogame related ones are usually regulated to the bottom right corner for me and it's not like they make noise unless I hover over them. The game-related ones aren't even obnoxious either. Usually it's just "YO THIS GAME IS OUT ON XBL/GAMES ON DEMAND. COP DIS SHIT" or "YO THIS MOVIE/MUSIC IS OUT ON ZUNE. HIT IT UP". While they are not relevant to my interests they are at least about the system's functionality.

The ads don't really bother me either, I mean come on. We live in a society where there's even ads in a bar urinal.

The dashboard is shitty down to it's core though. The fact that MS had to make an app for deals and specials shows just how awful their interface is as letting people see what the hell is actually for sale.

lol, is the expansion already out of stock?

They make it really hard to take my money. I already printed off the pdf for less than $5, but will buy the game if I can get the expansion too.

GT: Fozzie Bear