I'm on team Jeff. Certain level of problems can be excused, more if the rest of the game is really good in all the other places. There is a point where jank is overpowering the experience and killing the immersion. i grant them that they can make intricate open world but it doesn't mean than they can make everything crap and ride the wave of no one else does this stuff. Maybe no one else id doing it because it leads to creating mess?
But to be honest it doesn't really matter in the case of F4 since everything else in the game was disappointing. Not improving on the experience fitted with everything else pretty well.
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